For those who love ESO

justin903b14a_ESO

Thank you ZOS for a great game you guys probally don't hear through all the bashing and hating going on continue the great work and some of us do love the game

VlVEC

Game's good.

plamillusionub17_ESO

I'm enjoying myself and looking forward to the road ahead

rattbagrwb17_ESO

Amidst the dungeon of haters and potato posts, you find a shining gem in the rubble. As you pick it up you notice it is just a simple post from justin, yet it glimmers like a droplet of dewmer oil in the morning sun. A hundred adventurers like yourself have likely scrolled right past it in their rush. Not you, you took your time and enjoyed the journey, and found this gem as your reward.
You decide to add your own post to justins, be that another adventurer, in another time may stop here, and give thanks for this journey.

You open your bag and recover a small parchment, upon which you post simply "+1"

Sunrock

Fanboys... You're not doing ZOS any favors by creating posts like this. Blowing smoke up some ones ass does not help them to improve or evolve in the right direction.

They do deserve all the hate for all the bugs, especially for the last hot fix that broke the game 10 times more then it fixed it.

Give constructive feedback though and don't exaggerate every thing just to try to make a point. If you do your just as bad as any fanboy.

ciannait

rattbagrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Amidst the dungeon of haters and potato posts, you find a shining gem in the rubble. As you pick it up you notice it is just a simple post from justin, yet it glimmers like a droplet of dewmer oil in the morning sun. A hundred adventurers like yourself have likely scrolled right past it in their rush. Not you, you took your time and enjoyed the journey, and found this gem as your reward.
You decide to add your own post to justins, be that another adventurer, in another time may stop here, and give thanks for this journey.

You open your bag and recover a small parchment, upon which you post simply "+1"

This was better than the OP!

Innocente

"There are none so blind . . ."

rattbagrwb17_ESO

Sunrock wrote: »

Fanboys... You're not doing ZOS any favors by creating posts like this. Blowing smoke up some ones ass does not help them to improve or evolve in the right direction.

They do deserve all the hate for all the bugs, especially for the last hot fix that broke the game 10 times more then it fixed it.

Give constructive feedback though and don't exaggerate every thing just to try to make a point. If you do your just as bad as any fanboy.

I disagree.
ZoS quickly receive feedback on all problems and bugs in the game via the reporting tool. They are in the business of selling games, so subscriptions mean everything, and are trying their best to fix it as quickly as possible to retain their playerbase.

These forums on the other hand, are a community portal, where the people that love the game can get together and discuss it. Creating a positive community is a hell of a lot more important on these boards than hundreds of whining threads starring crybabys complaining about some little bug they have, their lack of bankspace or auction house or whatever it is they would have included had they designed the game...

So lets use this forum for good, shall we?
Lets discuss the things we love about it, lend our itemisation, skilling and playstyle advise to each other and actually make a community on this board, rather than use it as a 'lets all bash ZoS and threaten to leave' portal. It might actually make the game better for everyone

Ish_Fingers

Sunrock wrote: »

Fanboys... You're not doing ZOS any favors by creating posts like this. Blowing smoke up some ones ass does not help them to improve or evolve in the right direction.

They do deserve all the hate for all the bugs, especially for the last hot fix that broke the game 10 times more then it fixed it.

Give constructive feedback though and don't exaggerate every thing just to try to make a point. If you do your just as bad as any fanboy.

Assuming posts like this (or likewise, negative responses) are read and listened to, it is important to provide positive feedback as well.

Would you enjoy working for someone who constantly told you how poor you are at your job? Would you strive to improve? Or would you think 'F- this S-'?

It is usually far more effective to provide an encouraging, engaging atmosphere to get results than a hostile one.

Anyway... I like ESO . I can stand the flaws & bugs. I expect to see them ironed out over the weeks/months but am in no rush. It's a captivating game with a largely mature community, taking a step away from other MMOs on the market.

I have plenty to do when I log in; either on my own, with friends or with guild members. I have 2 characters I like to alternate between and enjoy crafting much more so than in other MMOs. A lack of player housing and no central trading hub are a little disappointing, but in time I would hope both these issues are addressed one way or another.

Until then, just taking in the sights.

Terminus

rattbagrwb17_ESO wrote: »

So lets use this forum for good, shall we?
Lets discuss the things we love about it, lend our itemisation, skilling and playstyle advise to each other and actually make a community on this board, rather than use it as a 'lets all bash ZoS and threaten to leave' portal. It might actually make the game better for everyone

It seems that, as long as what Zenimax adds to the game actually functions correctly, the content really is fantastic.
Craglorn and Death Recap seem to have been extremely successful in their launch.

Sunrock

rattbagrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Sunrock wrote: »

Fanboys... You're not doing ZOS any favors by creating posts like this. Blowing smoke up some ones ass does not help them to improve or evolve in the right direction.

They do deserve all the hate for all the bugs, especially for the last hot fix that broke the game 10 times more then it fixed it.

Give constructive feedback though and don't exaggerate every thing just to try to make a point. If you do your just as bad as any fanboy.

I disagree.
ZoS quickly receive feedback on all problems and bugs in the game via the reporting tool. They are in the business of selling games, so subscriptions mean everything, and are trying their best to fix it as quickly as possible to retain their playerbase.

These forums on the other hand, are a community portal, where the people that love the game can get together and discuss it. Creating a positive community is a hell of a lot more important on these boards than hundreds of whining threads starring crybabys complaining about some little bug they have, their lack of bankspace or auction house or whatever it is they would have included had they designed the game...

So lets use this forum for good, shall we?
Lets discuss the things we love about it, lend our itemisation, skilling and playstyle advise to each other and actually make a community on this board, rather than use it as a 'lets all bash ZoS and threaten to leave' portal. It might actually make the game better for everyone

Really? And what about all those bugs that was repoarted 6-10 months ago during beta that still exist? And all the feed back from PTS that was totally ignore regarding Craglorn?

Either you are unaware of how mush game braking bug reports that have been sent in but totally ignore for more then 6+ months. Or your one of those monkeys that see no evil, her no evil, and talk no evil.

Laura

Innocente wrote: »

"There are none so blind . . ."

"There are none so pretentious . . . "

Lalai

+1 for this. Love the game, have been having tons of fun playing it.. and honestly I personally don't run into many bugs when compared to the cries of the forums. The last patch fixed more things than it broke (for me).

You can post positive comments while still acknowledging things need to be fixed. You can enjoy something that's imperfect. You can bring to light issues without being resoundingly negative overall; Everyone appreciates some words of encouragement. There are far too few genuinely positive, or even just genuinely constructive posts on this forum.

Laura

Sunrock wrote: »

Fanboys... You're not doing ZOS any favors by creating posts like this. Blowing smoke up some ones ass does not help them to improve or evolve in the right direction.

They do deserve all the hate for all the bugs, especially for the last hot fix that broke the game 10 times more then it fixed it.

Give constructive feedback though and don't exaggerate every thing just to try to make a point. If you do your just as bad as any fanboy.

And people who are so shoved up there own arse that they call anyone who enjoys what they don't enjoy a fan boy doesn't help either. The game has a plethora of problems but if you are so short sighted as to think that people are wrong for an -opinion- then you my friend are a basket case.

Reenlister

I be loving the game. But I be having a lot of doubt of late about it. I don't be seein a lot of positive of late. Oh, aye they be trying, but in the midst of trying they sure be letting a lot of things go wrong.
So yeah, I ll tell em good job.
But I am also not holding my breath for anything grand to be happening.
As far as fixes,, yeah, that would be a good thing, ya ken?

gurugeorgey

Loving this more than any recent MMO, the way it immerses me in the game world rather than has me sitting in my chair looking on at the game world from the outside, is priceless.

rattbagrwb17_ESO

Sunrock wrote: »

Really? And what about all those bugs that was repoarted 6-10 months ago during beta that still exist? And all the feed back from PTS that was totally ignore regarding Craglorn?

Either you are unaware of how mush game braking bug reports that have been sent in but totally ignore for more then 6+ months. Or your one of those monkeys that see no evil, her no evil, and talk no evil.

I'll reiterate and expand for you, as it seems you missed or did not understand my previous post.
ZoS are in the business of selling subscriptions. For that, they need a fun game, with plenty of fresh content, and minimal problems. This is not a weekend project, this is millions of dollars and years of work with a large team. Every aspect of every bug is reported and documented to report to management, who want answers.
Like all IT projects, every bug is documented and prioritised according to the impact, the number of users affected, and difficulty/cost of fix. Their team is working together as best they can to get the game as problem free as possible, as fast as possible. Not sure if you have ever had much to do with software development before, but these guys would be putting in crazy hours every week trying to meet targets.
How are they doing? Pretty damn well in my humble opinion. Did you read the list of bugfixes in the last patchnotes? wow.

I'm not a "monkeys that see no evil, her no evil, and talk no evil" at all, I'm just realistic about what is and isn't possible. Compared to other AAA launches, this has been great. I have seen plenty of your other posts around the forum, why don't you try and find something positive to say? If you cant, perhaps leave?

theyancey

I think that they really nailed the ES color scheme, the splashes of vividly colored plants and such with the grays and browns of the background and buildings. It feels just like being home in Tamriel.

Cogo

Agree with OP

Thanks Zenimax for an awesome game. I have been in need a just this type of game since the downfall of Everquest.

I also like to add I am really pleased with your work these past days, how you listen to us players and changes to name a few, add general forum, reduce some hard NPCs people was complaining about.

You have proven that you do not just create a game and leave it be. You have plans for the games as long a a year head, the even if it gives bad feelings, you dont implement a new feature, for example the thieves guild and justice system because you feel it is not done yet. And this you communicate to us.

I am a very happy player of ESO and accept bugs since you proven that you work to fix them.

Loco_Mofo

rattbagrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Amidst the dungeon of haters and potato posts, you find a shining gem in the rubble. As you pick it up you notice it is just a simple post from justin, yet it glimmers like a droplet of dewmer oil in the morning sun. A hundred adventurers like yourself have likely scrolled right past it in their rush. Not you, you took your time and enjoyed the journey, and found this gem as your reward.
You decide to add your own post to justins, be that another adventurer, in another time may stop here, and give thanks for this journey.

You open your bag and recover a small parchment, upon which you post simply "+1"

Lol post of the day man!

Loco_Mofo

Sunrock wrote: »

Fanboys... You're not doing ZOS any favors by creating posts like this. Blowing smoke up some ones ass does not help them to improve or evolve in the right direction.

They do deserve all the hate for all the bugs, especially for the last hot fix that broke the game 10 times more then it fixed it.

Give constructive feedback though and don't exaggerate every thing just to try to make a point. If you do your just as bad as any fanboy.

Why do you feel the need to rain on the parade...

There are some people still thoroughly enjoying the game despite the bugs.

meghuskoow

+1 From me as well. Its not perfect as i have encountered a crippling bug, but got past it. Im one that came from my preorder on ps4, but am in love with the pc version too. ES has a special place in my heart forever.

zombie2kornout

I agree with the sentiment of the OP. This game has problems, but if it is the hell that some here describe it to be, well "hell aint a bad place to be."

HandofBane

rattbagrwb17_ESO wrote: »

How are they doing? Pretty damn well in my humble opinion. Did you read the list of bugfixes in the last patchnotes? wow.

How are they doing? Did you read the Nightblade Update sticky, where they finally acknowledged a huge portion of the skills and abilities for an entire class are broken, have been since beta, and likely won't be fixed for as much as two entire subscription cycles? That kind of thing is not acceptable, especially when that class represents 25% of the character options, and effectively only has three very specific builds that function properly - nearly two months after launch, with many of those bugs having been reported as far back as the November stress test beta phase (if not earlier on PTS).

The devs have made some progress since launch, but they have a hell of a long way to go, and really bad prioritization when they rushed out the adventure zone - breaking veteran content, yet more abilities, and even the ability for many people to log into the game in the process - rather than focus on fixing everything that is broken and has been reported constantly and repeatedly by many people over the past half a year. And what do we get to see from the community team who does post here? Confused questions asking for more information on bugs that they apparently have no idea exist or have been reported. I swear whoever is responsible for looking through the bug reports and processing/filtering that info either isn't doing their job or desperately needs an extra several sets of hands/eyes to help out. Even look at the now infamous guild bank dupe, that was reported multiple times since launch (and supposedly before launch, though the beta forums were purged so it can't be confirmed) - it took someone getting sick of them doing nothing and streaming it live for them to get off their asses and actually fix it, almost two weeks after we went live, with people abusing it the entire time. I can think of another instance during beta where a skill point dupe was revealed by a player because he had reported it every beta weekend for several months with no fix applied, and that wasn't even touched until he posted it publicly on the beta forums.

You want to give the devs appreciation? Great. Just don't put on blinders or rose-colored glasses and deny that there is a lot of crap that still needs to be done to make this game remotely worth the sub fee.

HungerCity

I LOVE THIS GAME!!!

F*** the haters.....

OneForSorrow

I am having a lot of fun.

Are there bugs? Are there things I really wish they'd change? Oh, of course. But I feel like once they get rolling they will have a very solid game on their hands.

I hope you are able to fix things and smooth them out, Zenimax. I look forwards to seeing how this game grows.

rattbagrwb17_ESO

HandofBane wrote: »

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I did read the NB sticky. One of my fav characters is a NB. I really enjoy playing my NB, even with all these "UNPLAYABLE" bugs that the whiners are carrying on about, so I really question all the drama associated with the topic. People can be so melodramatic!

I remember the skill point problem in beta. Actually what happened was the eso forums were down, so he created a thread on reddit asking one of the CM's to contact him over private message. A CM contacted him via reddit private message, he never publicised how it was done, and the bug was fixed the next day.

Not sure I'm the one wearing 'rose coloured glasses' when you make over-reactive statements like 'remotely worth the sub fee'.

stabbykitteh

HandofBane wrote: »

You want to give the devs appreciation? Great. Just don't put on blinders or rose-colored glasses and deny that there is a lot of crap that still needs to be done to make this game remotely worth the sub fee.

Don't think anyone here is doing that, but it's gotten to the point where you can't say anything positive without getting chewed out (because there aren't 1000 complaint threads to add to).

We get it. Some folks are really unhappy. Some have very good reason.

I've had the bank bug, fps issues and got rofl-stomped in VR with the Craglorn patch. Still, I'm having a great time wandering the parts of Tamriel I've not seen before and revisiting places like Mournhold (which is epic). Helping others and being helped through tough battles. Having fun.

Is it perfect? Nope, but that's ok with me, as long as ZOS keep working at it.

HandofBane

rattbagrwb17_ESO wrote: »

HandofBane wrote: »

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I did read the NB sticky. One of my fav characters is a NB. I really enjoy playing my NB, even with all these "UNPLAYABLE" bugs that the whiners are carrying on about, so I really question all the drama associated with the topic. People can be so melodramatic!

I am currently unable to progress at more than a snails pace due to multiple abilities not working properly in veteran level content - against single target fights I am usually fine, two targets are rough but doable, three targets are a death sentence 60% of the time (closer to 90% if two mobs use Uppercut). This wouldn't be such a big deal if the good majority of fights, quest or otherwise, weren't in groups of 2-3 mobs everywhere. Feel free to provide feedback when you get to veteran content - I had very few problems until after finishing Coldharbour, the content before that point is far easier and far more forgiving of things not working properly, that you may not even realize some of your abilities are not doing damage or doing far less than they should be.

I remember the skill point problem in beta. Actually what happened was the eso forums were down, so he created a thread on reddit asking one of the CM's to contact him over private message. A CM contacted him via reddit private message, he never publicised how it was done, and the bug was fixed the next day.

Actually he posted the full process in the Sanguine forum for us, with screenshots - IIRC it involved the Wyrd tree quest, entering the instanced area, then dropping the quest so you got kicked from the zone before actually turning it in.

Edit: And my apologies to those who are having everything work perfect for them, but try having the character you invested most of your time and effort into broken to the point where you are unable to progress, on top of everything else that breaks/goes wrong with the game, and realize just how *** frustrated quite a few of us are getting. Especially when the only communication we get is (a month and a half after launch) a couple posts saying they kind of know things aren't working, but don't expect fixes til we pay for an extra 1-2 months of not being able to play that character as it is supposed to work.

rattbagrwb17_ESO

HandofBane wrote: »

Actually he posted the full process in the Sanguine forum for us, with screenshots - IIRC it involved the Wyrd tree quest, entering the instanced area, then dropping the quest so you got kicked from the zone before actually turning it in.

Ohh, I see, I followed the reddit thread and fix, but was not aware he had posted details on the Sanguine forum as well.
Heh, and with all the praise he was getting on reddit for not publicising how to do it!

Arreyanne

As far as most of the game ya its playable, however I agree with many that the NB fix is going to be too long in coming.

This craglorn stuff should have been pushed back if it's going to take them 6-8 weeks, NEXT CONTENT PATCH THEY SAID, to even address the things THEY say are wro9ng with that class.

That IMHO is bad management on whoever's part. So what they are basiclly saying is, "pay us another 30 dollars and if we get around to it we'll fix some of these thing."

So you blame people for posting negative comments about not only the game but the Dev's because their perception of the two is based off the statements of ppl that work for them. While your perception of the same statement maybe viewed through an entirely different belief system and is no more incorrect than the person that see things differently you.

It does not however mean that either of you are incorrect nor correct.

So now everyone hug and sing (***) ba ya