Do You Buy Gold Online?

Zabus

Horse, and respec.

Nazon_Katts

Mudflation, when you really look at it, is a good thing. Going out of your way to prevent it, well, all you create is a gold sellers market.

ZurinArctus

Errywon noz Breton #1

mips_winnt

indytims_ESO wrote: »

Why work for something when you can have it -now- with a few simple clicks of the mouse?

Er..um... the people that buy gold are buying with real world currency which many (most?) actually WORKED to earn, getting gold in game shouldn't be WORK it's supposed to be leisure as in fun. If playing EOS is work for ya then you're doing it completely bassackwards.

That being said, there are good reasons for buying gold being against the TOS (see EOS BOT invasion for more details) but none of them have to do with players being "lazy".

Personally I can't really see why anybody would want to spend their hard earned dollars buying gold in EOS since it's so darn quick & easy to make just playing the game normally.

HandofBane

Mablung wrote: »

HandofBane wrote: »

The excuses I have heard in the past tend to be either "I don't have time to farm gold myself" or "I just want to play the game, not grind". Neither justifies the purchase of gold, and both come across as someone trying to make themselves the victim of the game punishing them for being too casual in their playtime.

The most enraging replies have been "Well, I work hard in real life, why can't I use that money to be equal in game?" No, you want to play a game, you play it by the inherent rules put in place, which include no forking over RL cash for ingame currency (some F2P games aside).

And for the record, every single person in any of my guilds who admitted to buying gold in that game no longer had a guild by the end of that day.

I read this in Sylvester Stallones Judge Dredd voice and ended it with 'I am the LAW!'

Dammit, now I want the ability to create an automatic text macro to /say that every time I use Silver Bolts....

Aaklor

I have no reason to buy gold, I can farm motifs and sell em. even at 45k per for daedric and ancient elf, it's easy money.

Laughter Song

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Covyn

Buying gold in any online game jeopardizes the security of your account....I don't care about the arguments.

Why do people do it here?
1. Everything in the game is a gold sink.
~Motiffs
~Respec
~Horses
~Bank and Bag Space
2. What people don't know hurts them.
~Gold is much easier to come by in VR levels
~Understanding where Epic, Legendary Materials, Motiff's come from
~Who and What Dungeons to farm

Impatience is the big reason. The only thing I buy from other players are certain Alchemy and Provisioning Materials. There is no reason to buy gold.

Maverick827

@Laughter Song‌

Please stop spamming the same post in various threads. It's obnoxious with all of those videos.

The content is also obnoxious as well. You think gold buyers are "kids using mommy's credit card?" That's ridiculous. Gold buyers are busy adults who don't have any sense of morality in video games because that concept is silly.

It's a video game, stop treating it like life.

Phantorang

Drazticulous wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

Wouldn't shock me if people were buying gold for the stupid respec prices.

100g per skill point USED is not bad.... it makes you really want to THINK about how you want to play instead of just doing cookie cutter respec every time a new patch comes out for balance.

Doesnt change the fact that goldsellers are making a fortune selling gold thats going to be used for an ability reset. Thats good enough reason to make it cheaper.

Loco_Mofo

I have no idea why people buy gold, especially in this game.

Sad individuals indeed.

Kaelis33

Yes I buy gold online, usually American Eagles, but sometimes the Canadian maple leafs are cheaper. It really all depends I guess.

Cogo

I do not care what anyones reason is to buy gold outside the game from goldsellers and bots which is one of the most common pains in most MMOs.

If you buy gold from goldsellers with your money, you do not only create MORE goldfarmers/bots, but you also violate the contract you signed to be allowed to use this service called ESO.

Not only do I hope that Zenimax finds you somehow and removes your account at once.

I also hope you stay the hell away from these games, because people who buy gold IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE FOLDFARMERS/SELLERS.

Just the question alone, that you needed to know if anyone was interested in this, is....why the HELL should anyone WANT to add more problems to the game and, like in WoW, you can buy a full geared, raidready highlvl for real money......

I understand why those who enjoy what WoW has come to, would like this.

BUT ESO....Why even CONSIDER buying anything for real money that you didnt earn yourself in the game, which IS the game. Why are you even playing a game that is MENT to be "hard". I would say not easy and anyone gets everyone like other MMO. But sure, call it "hard", even if there are BIG Successful MMOs that is hard in nature.

j.frank.nicholsb14_ESO

Maverick827 wrote: »

Gold buyers are busy adults who don't have any sense of morality in video games because that concept is silly.

It's a video game, stop treating it like life.

Hmmmm, so morality does not enter into your interactions with other REAL LIFE people on the other side of their screens. Me thinks you are the silly one, and I think society agrees with me - witness the onset of more and more internet bullying laws.

Cogo

Loligo wrote: »

I'll admit to having bought gold in EQ and WoW and the reasoning was the same for both.

I started EQ about 3 months after release. By then, the n00b zones were already filled with twinked alts. Still, I didn't buy gold right away. I played for about 4 months before I started encountering grief in two formats: first, I'd get rejected for groups because my gear wasn't all twinked out hand-me-downs from alts; and second, because idjits would farm the decent lowb gear in order to sell it. I felt that left me with the choice of farming coppers like a serf until I could afford farmed gear, or just go buy some gold from a gold farmer and buy the gear that people expected I should have. I chose the latter. Frankly, it is my opinion that the other players forced this decision. Yes, I could have sucked it up with crap gear, but let's be honest here... if you weren't a necro, magician, or druid, EQ was a pretty sucky solo game. I won't debate the merits of a choice I made 15 years ago. I offer this only for an illustration of my thoughts at the time.

In WoW, I started at burning crusade, and ASSUMED it was going to be all twinks all the time, and assumed it would be at least EQ difficult. So I bought gold to start. I regretted the waste of money immediately, as WoW was so incredibly easy it was unnecessary.

It was in WoW that I really noticed how gold selling really impacts the game in a negative way, with bots running around hogging everything. As long as you stuck to quested gear, you were fine though.

After that, I've never done it. The gold bots really do wreck the play experience, and if the game is properly set up, it should be impossible for farmers to c**kblock other players by locking down gear like you could with warrior crafted armour in EQ.

Interesting post. I to played EQ from start, with a total of about 10 years playing the game.

I am puzzled that someone wanted stuff because of "other people" or whatever reason. How did you have the patience for 5-10 mins loading time between zones? How did you have any patience to do much at all, because "solo" was very hard for most in EQ, and not just at start, but for quite many years.

Did you reach level 50? which was the highest lvl before kunark when it raised to 60? Where did your patience come from when it took 3-6 MONTHS to reach highest level, even for those with groups?

Your statement that you got kicked from groups for not having enough gear MAY be true if you tried to group at a much higher level place then your current level. OR you did not even try to get a group more then a few times.

Getting groups was never a big problem in EQ. Getting a tank, or a healer, for the group, that was the main problem fram start and I think it still is?

As for soloing, first of all, it wasn't the most effective way to get exp, unless you count quad kiting for wizards and druids. If you played EQ as you state, you know exactly what Quad kiting was. Shamans and Necros where also decent at soloing, but FAR less exp then groups.

What level in EQ did you reach before stoped playing it?

Also, if you played EQ longer then a year, you would know the community there and there was NO goldsellers/buyers at that time. It was E-bay.

IF you played for a year or more, you would know that the community on each server outed morons who sold their account. This way, the buyer of the account found themselves not getting invited by any proper guilds at all.

Also, they where the laughing subject both in game and on the forums.

EQ is a PRIME example who US players are the best defense at these people who for whatever reason I can not understand...want to play a game, but dont really want to play it and rather buy the stuff they need to play for to get otherwise.

Blackwidow

Hamfast wrote: »

"Affluence" should never be an excuse for breaking the law/rules,

Don't read into stuff that is not there.

Where did I say anything about breaking the rules or buying gold is not wrong?

I was just speaking about you saying it was lazy. If you had to put a trait on it, I would say impatience was the root of why people buy gold.

Laughter Song

I had submitted very nice posts with various links and imbedded Videos of bots flying through zones etc., videos of the bot programs and how easy it is to purchase and/or use bot programs and every single Video and thread were removed.

So apparently telling and showing the truth are not allowed in ESO.

Lovely

My guess is there was a big demand to begin with for the horse. I got mine with Imperial Edition but if you look at it this way - I want a horse. I get a 15/10/0 one for 25euros or for 12 euros (palomino). Or wait till you grind up 43k. But the one you grind for is superior. So for 12 euros you can get your horse and still have gold for bags.

Hmmm... now that I think about it - bags! I guess investing a little at the start would make for a much smoother stress-free experience. I wasted a lot of time managing bags and alts (mules). Only now it seems ok, when I'm at 150 bags and 140 bank.

Or I don't know - a crapton of gold to respec and try different things? I'm only throwing ideas with the things I invested gold in, I may be completely off.

Lovely

Drazticulous wrote: »

100g per skill point USED is not bad.... it makes you really want to THINK about how you want to play instead of just doing cookie cutter respec every time a new patch comes out for balance.

I think you have that backwards. It's makes you go look for cookie cutter builds exactly because it's expensive. Who wants to experiment when respec cost is so high, better go with something that's already tested.

alphawolph

Lovely wrote: »

Drazticulous wrote: »

100g per skill point USED is not bad.... it makes you really want to THINK about how you want to play instead of just doing cookie cutter respec every time a new patch comes out for balance.

I think you have that backwards. It's makes you go look for cookie cutter builds exactly because it's expensive. Who wants to experiment when respec cost is so high, better go with something that's already tested.

Exactly, god forbid you experiment. If you make a mistake you can make your toon unplayable.

Jeddahwe

Bags yes that is a huge one, bags here cost a ton and I wish instead of paying gold to the 'game' it was crafted so players could earn a living!

Hamfast

Blackwidow wrote: »

Hamfast wrote: »

"Affluence" should never be an excuse for breaking the law/rules,

Don't read into stuff that is not there.

Where did I say anything about breaking the rules or buying gold is not wrong?

I was just speaking about you saying it was lazy. If you had to put a trait on it, I would say impatience was the root of why people buy gold.

First, let me say I agree with you on the impatience, second, I said nothing about lazy, I responded to your posts...

You Said:

Blackwidow wrote:

Do I buy gold online?

No, I buy gold in game from friendly players who own their own website just for such occasions.

Why?

This implies you buy gold from those "friendly players who own their own website just for such occasions."

You Said:

Blackwidow wrote:

It is not just being lazy. Some kids are just rich and think nothing of it.

Rich people have chefs in their house. Does not mean they are lazy, it is just easier for them.

Having it easy does not always mean lazy.

Thus I concluded that you think Affluence should be an excuse...

Your Comments on Buying Gold from Friendly players with websites and rich kids who don't think about it does not say it's not wrong, it says you don't seem to care that it's wrong... or that you don't recognize it's wrong, which is worse in my opinion.

Granted, I may have gone a bit overboard calling those "Friendly Players with their Website" the crack dealers of the gaming world, but I liked the comparison for the shock value.