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Vet 15 Next Month

Zabus
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I can see it coming..
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  • Nickdorlandb16_ESO
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    I can see it coming..

    So ? That is bad ? ...
  • Lukee
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    The more the better :)
  • ZakyUchiha
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    Just making a comment if they are going to do it and this thread gets revived when it's time :)
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  • Rylana
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    Its way too soon to be raising level caps like this, most people arent even vet 5 yet much less 10, nor do most people have good gear.

    By the time you get a good capped gear set for vr12 its going to be outdated by the next cap increase

    its stupid
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  • zaria
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    Ok say they raise level cap to 14 next month, an smaller update than this so is a new trial and 3 new dungeons.
    The new gear is perhaps 10% better then the old.

    I fail to see the problem. Playing wow you never managed to get the best gear unless you was hardcore raider and even they would have an very hard time getting the best gear.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Zabus
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    I can see it coming..

    So ? That is bad ? ...

    For me at least yeah, when I'm at level cap I enjoy the game much more. Not having to worry about leveling makes my experience much more pleasant. I play at my own pace, and just doing what it is I do.

    I understand that I'm not forced to level as fast as possible. My problem is, if I focus on pvp for example and am not v12 by the time it becomes v15 I'm f*cked in group pve.

    When I was v7, I couldn't run any v6-10 dungeons because no one wanted to pair up with anyone lower than a v8. They said, "We're guaranteed a smooth run if we have v8+" which is complete bull.

    My only other option was to endlessly wait in queue until I found other low levels. So if I'm v12 in a 12-15 dungeon, I'll be waiting for a long time. While everyone else is advertising in zone v14+ for [insert expansion]!!

    I really wouldn't care if the group tool didn't take so long to find people. There's been times when I've had to wait well over 2hrs to find a group.
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  • Phantax
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    Noooooo !

    Hey I'm a fan of level caps, they should have a place in MMOs (IMO) but raise it again. FFS.. they need to get things sorted for what we have already. I'd love to see new content coming fast and new levels to compete with it. But even I have to admit this game is in a dire state.
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  • Seroczynski
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  • Paske
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    Because you dont do vertical progress, unless its an expansion.

    You make horizontal progression with gear or something like that as prerequisite. Not - get more levels and gear before enjoying new content.
  • wrlifeboil
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    I can see it coming..

    Haha. Good joke.

    Unless you weren't joking...
  • GrimCyclone
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    VR1094102941 by 2015

    Yet it'll still take 2 hits to kill a tier 2 mob in khenarthi's roost I bet.
    The damage scaling is lolol in this game.
  • Cogo
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    Kids, listen to papa Cogo. ESO is a saga, starting with you at level 1, NOT max level after following every addon/guide to fastest level you can.

    Your saga does start with you, but it doesnt stop. You keep creating your own history, lore, fame, villany or whatever you want! That simply can not happen if you limit a game to no expansions or more goals. Harder encounters are part of that. And if anyone here have yet to try an instanced dungeon (not public), I feel sad for you....cause the AI there is like nothing in any other MMO. You are missing out. I am a raider and it feels like I go on raids several times a week doing these dungeons at the proper level without some highlvl there to solo everything.

    Level if one goal of many in this game. For you who havn't noticed, there is a vast amounth content for every level. Not just high end, even if thats whats coming now. A good game keeps developing in a good pace. Vet level 15 very shorty I dont see happening. When most or at least those interested have started to progress in Graglorn, THEN I bet there will be new goals in the horizon.

    If you havn't figured it out, one of the "drugs" with a game, that keeps you logging back is that there always are new/other/challenging things to do.

    If you want to be first at everything, then you can. Get into a guild with that goal or even better, create one (making a good guild is one of the hardest work in MMO, unless you have 10 friends who joins right away and dont leave)

    I am level 36 DK tank. Enjoying my game and this patch came perfectly. I have tons to do still, learn and even more to explore.

    I do feel sad for those players who are either very good players and race to highest level, or use software to get there fast. Of course you gonna be bored!

    To keep raising the bar, preferbly without raising level because when you do that, you trivilize a whole part and need to move on to a new expansion, which I hope ALSO will happen in ESO, but not for 6 months to a year.

    We all have fun in different ways, I like to experience and try new, different things. I also like to have my main and be able to develop him.

    Take WoW these days for example. How many people are dead bored when they reach highest level by farting for 2 days, so called raiding (but its addons who does most of the work), almost garateed Epic loot and are done....Even those WoW players who like the game, gets bored then....take a wild guess why!

    ESO opens more and more. I just sit back and enjoy everything. One of my favorite things is skyshard hunting (I have no addons or map) and treasure map hunting. Sure, its crap for my exp, but I have yet to "grind" a single second in this game.

    Even thought I play the game daily, I keep running into new "things". Can be anything. Yesterday I met my first troll. I do know the lore about trolls and how resiliant they are....but after 10 mins fighting and one death from me....I did win....but I stay the HELL away from trolls....thats for sure.
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  • galiumb16_ESO
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    zaria wrote: »
    Ok say they raise level cap to 14 next month, an smaller update than this so is a new trial and 3 new dungeons.
    The new gear is perhaps 10% better then the old.

    I fail to see the problem. Playing wow you never managed to get the best gear unless you was hardcore raider and even they would have an very hard time getting the best gear.

    The problem is that it becomes a non-ending treadmill. If you cannot complete something you stop trying.
  • sigsergv
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    There will be empty areas populated by bots in robes harvesting Jute. And no one else.
  • sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO
    I don´t want level caps to increase fast also. I want to enjoy the game, but rushers are killing it for me. I am mostly PvP player, but ESO offers enjoyable PVE content, therefor I am stuck in PVE (willingly) and I am losing on PVP area. Now vet1 and they already increased cap to 12. I will never achieve top level if they keep adding new levels so fast.

    by all means I welcome new content, new gear, new sets. But it does not mean we also need new level caps...
  • zaria
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    Paske wrote: »
    Because you dont do vertical progress, unless its an expansion.

    You make horizontal progression with gear or something like that as prerequisite. Not - get more levels and gear before enjoying new content.

    How is WOW gear tires and ESO VR levels different?
    They serve the same purpose.
    Yes its the obvious one that you get better gear in WOW by drop in dungeons, grinding rep or collect points to purchase it
    In ESO you level up and hope for drops or craft a set, then hope for a better set as drop.


    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Ghenra
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    If they release VR15 next month I leave this crap for PvErs, I hate the vertical progresion for noobs in a RvR MMO.
  • navystylz_ESO
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    zaria wrote: »
    Paske wrote: »
    Because you dont do vertical progress, unless its an expansion.

    You make horizontal progression with gear or something like that as prerequisite. Not - get more levels and gear before enjoying new content.

    How is WOW gear tires and ESO VR levels different?
    They serve the same purpose.
    Yes its the obvious one that you get better gear in WOW by drop in dungeons, grinding rep or collect points to purchase it
    In ESO you level up and hope for drops or craft a set, then hope for a better set as drop.


    Because gear begets gear.

    WoW: Get max level. Stay this level, upgrade to better and better gear. After maybe year and half. Level up and repeat in xpac.

    ESO: Get max level. Stay this level a month. Upgrade gear, upgrade to better. Next month rolls around. New bugs introduced. All your gear is worthless since you are leveling up again and repeating process month by month.

    At this rate will be VR46 by time year and half rolls around it would take for WoW to start leveling process again.
  • Zabus
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    zaria wrote: »
    Paske wrote: »
    Because you dont do vertical progress, unless its an expansion.

    You make horizontal progression with gear or something like that as prerequisite. Not - get more levels and gear before enjoying new content.

    How is WOW gear tires and ESO VR levels different?
    They serve the same purpose.
    Yes its the obvious one that you get better gear in WOW by drop in dungeons, grinding rep or collect points to purchase it
    In ESO you level up and hope for drops or craft a set, then hope for a better set as drop.


    Because gear begets gear.

    WoW: Get max level. Stay this level, upgrade to better and better gear. After maybe year and half. Level up and repeat in xpac.

    ESO: Get max level. Stay this level a month. Upgrade gear, upgrade to better. Next month rolls around. New bugs introduced. All your gear is worthless since you are leveling up again and repeating process month by month.

    At this rate will be VR46 by time year and half rolls around it would take for WoW to start leveling process again.

    This.

    Another reason why I don't want further levels introduced. At least not anything under 6months to a year.
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  • AlexanderTheGreat
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    Well, we'll see how many Vet ranks there are when the game goes F2P. I'll come back to it then.
  • Noobie
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    Next month should be dedicated just to fixing problems with the game not new content
  • Ulvich
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    I can see it coming..

    Two more months. New content will be called "Crypt of Hearts".

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