Do you see Veteran content harder after the 1.1.2 patch?

ForTheRealm

I was trying some VR zones after the patch and I found out that it seems that a lot of mobs have more HP, and what is even more important, do more damage. In a consequence I am dying more often, and generate less experience overt time.
I asked several people, mainly from my guilds, and some of them see the same.
Do you experience it as well?

TheGrandAlliance

ANOTHER POLL OMG WTF BBQ!


How many times have I done this today? PLZ USE OTHER'S POLLS IF YOU ARE ALL GONNA TALK ABOUT THE SAME ISSUE!

Gaudrath

As far as I gathered, it affects only your second veteran alliance content? Might want to take that into account, or you'll get lots of VR1-5 folks voting no.

KhajiitiLizard

YES (mobs have more HP, do more damage in VR zones)

Gaudrath wrote: »

As far as I gathered, it affects only your second veteran alliance content? Might want to take that into account, or you'll get lots of VR1-5 folks voting no.

No, I'm still on DC (first veteran alliance as I'm EP) and the vet rank 5 zone (Bangkorai) is impossible for me, but wasn't before the patch (I was about halfway through the zone).

ForTheRealm

YES (mobs have more HP, do more damage in VR zones)

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

ANOTHER POLL OMG WTF BBQ!


How many times have I done this today? PLZ USE OTHER'S POLLS IF YOU ARE ALL GONNA TALK ABOUT THE SAME ISSUE!

What polls? Can you point me one? I did this poll cause I found only some discussions on the subject but no metric data (scale) of the problem.

chuo.lib14_ESO

YES (mobs have more HP, do more damage in VR zones)

Same. I spent a lot of time sorting a build and tactics, etc., because VR content was difficult. Now it's simply ridiculous. And don't tell me to group up - I should be able to go questing solo. I'm getting rolled by almost every group of trash mobs. Who the hell finds this kind of frustration fun?

DakotaCoty

I DON'T CARE (I do fishing mainly and ZoS added just a lot fixes in that area)

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101042/rate-this-game-on-a-1-10-scale#latest

Started after patch

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100932/should-patch-1-1-2-be-rolled-back#latest

Started after the patch

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100940/are-you-happy-with-the-direction-eso-is-going#latest

Started after the patch.

Your answers are very biased too, they are more subjective than objective.

TheGrandAlliance

piotreb17_ESO4 wrote: »

What polls? Can you point me one? I did this poll cause I found only some discussions on the subject but no metric data (scale) of the problem.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101042/rate-this-game-on-a-1-10-scale

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100932/should-patch-1-1-2-be-rolled-back

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100940/are-you-happy-with-the-direction-eso-is-going

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100963/how-many-unsubbed-because-of-path

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100682/do-you-like-any-of-the-nerfs-that-came-with-the-new-patch

LordEcks

I DON'T CARE (I do fishing mainly and ZoS added just a lot fixes in that area)

Fishing

Fixed several issues with Fishing Achievements, including text errors, duplicate fish, tooltip information, and making unattainable Fishing Achievements achievable.
Fish no longer have a level requirement.
Fish now have category icons based on their type and water source.
High level cloth harvest nodes can now drop bugs for bait, similar to lower level nodes.
You will no longer lose your fishing rod after you’re done fishing.
Interactable World Objects
Interactable bookshelves will all now have a book in them, as expected.
Interacting with any food item (bowl, plate, dish, etc.) only causes the food item to disappear, not the item it was in.
Interacting with any empty bottle will now properly display text that shows the bottle is empty.
Trunks in Coldharbour will now appear in an open state when they’re empty.
Fixed some resource nodes that were previously floating or in an odd position.

They changed something other than this in the patch?

ForTheRealm

YES (mobs have more HP, do more damage in VR zones)

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101042/rate-this-game-on-a-1-10-scale

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100932/should-patch-1-1-2-be-rolled-back

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100940/are-you-happy-with-the-direction-eso-is-going

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100963/how-many-unsubbed-because-of-path

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100682/do-you-like-any-of-the-nerfs-that-came-with-the-new-patch#

The poll is made to ask only if other people see VR conent difficulty harder? And not about about overall happiness about the patch or game. ;-)

TheGrandAlliance

Doesn't matter... They are all Variations on a Theme poll wise. This poll doens't serve any function that they other stack does. Clearly there are people posting how they are having problems with the game.


THis isn't scientific: Whether a poll goes one way or another doensn't make potential changes of the patch "less real" or not. Flooding these forums with endless polls only server to lower the quality of polling (and the usefulness of information thereof) and grief the forums.

phaneub17_ESO

YES (mobs have more HP, do more damage in VR zones)

Its even harder when one of your primary attack moves has either received a phantom nerf or has a play-changing bug. For melee range templars, Puncturing Sweep/Biting Jabs is forcing a 1 second global cooldown locking you out from doing anything after using it; all your abilities go on lockdown including normal attacking. Problem is there isn't any class skill ability to replace it with to serve the same purpose and we end up having to use it just to stay on top of fights or it just makes fights take longer to finish.

Jermu73

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

Doesn't matter... They are all Variations on a Theme poll wise. This poll doens't serve any function that they other stack does. Clearly there are people posting how they are having problems with the game.


THis isn't scientific: Whether a poll goes one way or another doensn't make potential changes of the patch "less real" or not. Flooding these forums with endless polls only server to lower the quality of polling (and the usefulness of information thereof) and grief the forums.

I'm sorry but who made you been mod here?

TheGrandAlliance

...a better question is: What gave you the idea to flood our forums?



o wait: ANOTHER POLL OMG: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101059/should-zenimax-hold-back-1-1-on-the-eu-server

.............

ForTheRealm

YES (mobs have more HP, do more damage in VR zones)

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

Doesn't matter... They are all Variations on a Theme poll wise. This poll doens't serve any function that they other stack does. Clearly there are people posting how they are having problems with the game.


THis isn't scientific: Whether a poll goes one way or another doensn't make potential changes of the patch "less real" or not. Flooding these forums with endless polls only server to lower the quality of polling (and the usefulness of information thereof) and grief the forums.

If nobody reacts, it would mean that nobody cares. And actually I do, and I see from the poll responses, there is more people like me.
If I see a problem with the game, and there is no official source confirming that, then:
1) I try to confirm that actually there is a game-wide problem, and not just my personal feeling (e.g. cause I have a worse day)
2) I react, inform ZoS about the problem and use the Forum to support the claims.

Please "TheGrandAlliance" - if you don't like the approach, just ignore it, and stop trolling.

TheGrandAlliance

There are 5+ polls just on the first few pages of this thread. This trend has to stop.


If you want to seek truth... do so in a way that is logical. Having a poll with 50 votes vs a poll with 1K+ votes will provide 2 completely different results. Diluting the population with 1230498710481 polls serves no one.

penguinlaraub17_ESO

Oh yea.

Just say if I pull two mobs and one of them is a hunter/summer I better get ready to cough up a hairball, because that 3rd mob pushes my *** in hard.

Striker_Lightbringer

YES (mobs have more HP, do more damage in VR zones)

I unsubscribed as soon as i got to VR, i could not play the builds and class i wanted the way i wanted, solo. Now seeing this patch and other nerfs from previous patches I think it was the right thing to do. What is the worst about this patch is the responsiveness and fluency of the game-play especially the combat phase. Character moves and reacts so poorly its like a turn based fight. It's 2014, with a game-play like this you cant possibly expect to survive. I hope that people that decided to stay in pay will have the fun they expected.

SirJesto

Pretty sure they are aware of this issue by now DEAD HORSE BEATERS.

PBpsy

It is a confirmed bug affecting the balance of VR5-10 mobs. There is no freaking room for opinions and feelings. Almost everybody that was in a VR6+ zone figured that this was a bug within an hour. That is why we all had a blast In Craglorn where the mobs were properly balanced. The only people that have an opinion about this are tards below VR5 that like to yap around about stuff they know nothing about.

Slash8915

YES (mobs have more HP, do more damage in VR zones)

PBpsy wrote: »

It is a confirmed bug affecting the balance of VR5-10 mobs. There is no freaking room for opinions and feelings. Almost everybody that was in a VR6+ zone figured that this was a bug within an hour. That is why we all had blast In Craglorn where the mobs were properly balanced. The only people that have an opinion about this are tards below VR5 that like to yap around about stuff they know nothing about.

I think it's affecting ALL VR zones. I definitely noticed it on my VR7, but even on my VR2, the mobs seemed much harder.

Blackwidow

YES (mobs have more HP, do more damage in VR zones)

I'm dieing more. Does that count?

It might just be the fire mages are kicking my ass as a baby vamp.