Death Stroke Nerf - you did more than a nerf

ipkonfigcub18_ESO

Death Stroke: This ability no longer receives the critical damage bonus when used as a sneak attack. It will still cause a stun and a guaranteed critical hit.

Max damage I EVER see off of it now is 758, if I'm lucky. It's not even doing the 275% by any means.

Well, off to find another ability, because it's completely useless now lol

ipkonfigcub18_ESO

PS: more proof the developers of this game (and most MMOs in general) hate melee classes.

Damn, maybe some day we'll get an MMO where the Devs love Melee classes.

Kewljag_66_ESO

Death Stroke was never intended to be a sneak attack open and especially an I win ability of 2400 damage. Vielled Strike and teleport strike are meant to be sneak atatck openers. Death Stroke morph is ment to be a fight changer when used on targets with more health than you and it is. the 4 second knock lets you tear them apart.

Inalisss

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

Death Stroke was never intended to be a sneak attack open and especially an I win ability of 2400 damage. Vielled Strike and teleport strike are meant to be sneak atatck openers. Death Stroke morph is ment to be a fight changer when used on targets with more health than you and it is. the 4 second knock lets you tear them apart.

That is only true for one of the morphs...
This skill is totaly useless now... the ultimate from the soul tree is now the only as it has even higher damage...
It was one of that abilities that in PvE allowed me to compensate for a lot of weaknesses and felt like a true assasine...
I guess they nerfed it because in AvA it is kind of to powerfull to kill a player with one hit. Once again PvE suffers from AvA.
This is just one of the many things that let me cancel my subscription...

PBpsy

ipkonfigcub18_ESO wrote: »

Death Stroke: This ability no longer receives the critical damage bonus when used as a sneak attack. It will still cause a stun and a guaranteed critical hit.

Max damage I EVER see off of it now is 758, if I'm lucky. It's not even doing the 275% by any means.

Well, off to find another ability, because it's completely useless now lol

Soul harvest remains useful to have in a bar with good ultimate builders then switch tab for something that actually has some bite.

The best we can do now is surprise attack.

galiumb16_ESO

I thought death stroke was capped anyways? When I tested this ability back in beta it was pointless to use it from sneak because I almost always had enough ultimate to cap the damage deathstroke was doing before the sneak bonus, did they change it?

PS - honest question, havent played my NB since beta

Axewaffle

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

Death Stroke was never intended to be a sneak attack open and especially an I win ability of 2400 damage. Vielled Strike and teleport strike are meant to be sneak atatck openers. Death Stroke morph is ment to be a fight changer when used on targets with more health than you and it is. the 4 second knock lets you tear them apart.

Except we have a siphoning ultimate that does the same stun but with the advantage of it being an area stun, yet deal aoe damage... more damage, and also stuns regardless of current hp... yup its useless.

icybrilliancenrb19_ESO

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

Death Stroke was never intended to be a sneak attack open and especially an I win ability of 2400 damage. Vielled Strike and teleport strike are meant to be sneak atatck openers. Death Stroke morph is ment to be a fight changer when used on targets with more health than you and it is. the 4 second knock lets you tear them apart.

If you've used Veiled Strike then the enemy player will have stun immunity when you use Death Stroke. And Veiled Strikes stun lasts longer anyway and can be reapplied by using Shadow Cloak -> Veiled Strike. And only one of the Death Stroke morphs even has the stun and it's a conditional stun at that.

For a single target melee Ultimate it's completely lacklustre in PvP now.

And it's even worse for PvE. Mobs are stupid so if you cast Consuming Darkness they won't move out of it. The mobs you most likely need an Ultimate for are likely either a pack, in which case this single target skill doesn't help, or a boss immune to stun, in which case it doesn't help.

Why would you use Death Stroke fully charged for 300 ultimate when you could use Soul Shred or Consuming Darkness that provide so much more for less Ultimate cost?

Death Stroke is reduced to a conditional emergency stun that many NBs don't need or for building Ultimate for whatever you have on your other bar.

ipkonfigcub18_ESO

PBpsy wrote: »

ipkonfigcub18_ESO wrote: »

Death Stroke: This ability no longer receives the critical damage bonus when used as a sneak attack. It will still cause a stun and a guaranteed critical hit.

Max damage I EVER see off of it now is 758, if I'm lucky. It's not even doing the 275% by any means.

Well, off to find another ability, because it's completely useless now lol

Soul harvest remains useful to have in a bar with good ultimate builders then switch tab for something that actually has some bite.

The best we can do now is surprise attack.

Until they nerf the *** out of surprise attack lol

ipkonfigcub18_ESO

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

Death Stroke was never intended to be a sneak attack open and especially an I win ability of 2400 damage. Vielled Strike and teleport strike are meant to be sneak atatck openers. Death Stroke morph is ment to be a fight changer when used on targets with more health than you and it is. the 4 second knock lets you tear them apart.

I was doing up to 4k crits. I agree it was too powerful. It's still a nice ability after the nerf but not when a nightblade has to take on 3plus mobs which we are expected to handle

Kewljag_66_ESO

Axewaffle wrote: »

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

Death Stroke was never intended to be a sneak attack open and especially an I win ability of 2400 damage. Vielled Strike and teleport strike are meant to be sneak atatck openers. Death Stroke morph is ment to be a fight changer when used on targets with more health than you and it is. the 4 second knock lets you tear them apart.

Except we have a siphoning ultimate that does the same stun but with the advantage of it being an area stun, yet deal aoe damage... more damage, and also stuns regardless of current hp... yup its useless.

Yes for level 1 Death Stroke, But the fully charged Death Stroke (when you leap in the air ) does 3X more damage. far more than the siphoning ultimate. And it cuts the targets healing ability in half. So if your fighting good players their potiosn will be half as effective. Dragon Blood and templar heals will be half as effective.

DS is the best ultimate for a 1v1 and fully charged its almost a gurinteed win

Kewljag_66_ESO

icybrilliancenrb19_ESO wrote: »

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

Death Stroke was never intended to be a sneak attack open and especially an I win ability of 2400 damage. Vielled Strike and teleport strike are meant to be sneak atatck openers. Death Stroke morph is ment to be a fight changer when used on targets with more health than you and it is. the 4 second knock lets you tear them apart.

If you've used Veiled Strike then the enemy player will have stun immunity when you use Death Stroke. And Veiled Strikes stun lasts longer anyway and can be reapplied by using Shadow Cloak -> Veiled Strike. And only one of the Death Stroke morphs even has the stun and it's a conditional stun at that.

For a single target melee Ultimate it's completely lacklustre in PvP now.

And it's even worse for PvE. Mobs are stupid so if you cast Consuming Darkness they won't move out of it. The mobs you most likely need an Ultimate for are likely either a pack, in which case this single target skill doesn't help, or a boss immune to stun, in which case it doesn't help.

Why would you use Death Stroke fully charged for 300 ultimate when you could use Soul Shred or Consuming Darkness that provide so much more for less Ultimate cost?

Death Stroke is reduced to a conditional emergency stun that many NBs don't need or for building Ultimate for whatever you have on your other bar.

SH and CD only do more damage than the level 1 Death Stroke, Fully charged DS does alot more damage as well as cuts the targets healing in half. It will screw over templars heals, as well as dragon blood and potions. It is by far the best 1v1 ability.

Drachdhar

Havent used Death Stroke or whatever on my NB since lvl 20 something. Ultimates should be game changers, and that ability is just a decent 1 target dmg skill.
Consuming Darkness and its morphs ftw.