Scourge (US) Deleted - Proof Dev's hate EP

Cheapshot

The one campaign EP had dominance in and all the buffs is the only campaign of the 10 that have been removed. Of course its most likely a bug but HOLY

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Can't EP ever catch a break \

Cheapshot

LOL I feel bad for the people that are unassigned to campaigns. Wonder what happens when they do pick one by mistake.

galiumb16_ESO

Now if they could just delete the other 7 empty campaigns.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

We're looking into this! Scourge should not be gone from the list.

Cheapshot

Thanks for the update will tell my guild allies

galiumb16_ESO

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

We're looking into this! Scourge should not be gone from the list.

Why exactly do you have all these empty campaigns leaving us so few options to actually get action in? Forums are full of calls to reduce them, and you guys add a new one.... seriously, are you even paying attention?

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Hi folks, we posted an update on this issue:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Those of you who participated in the Scourge campaign have likely noticed that it is no longer available following our deployment of Update 1.1.2 today. During the maintenance, we added a new campaign with a 2-week duration. In light of this new campaign, we intended to close Scourge—but not quite so soon. An error in our update process ended the campaign prematurely on the North American megaserver and before we could give you adequate warning.

We know that Scourge players were invested in their battles in Cyrodiil, and we’re reaching out to the campaign’s emperors to ensure their accomplishments are preserved. If you played in Scourge, you’ll retain your Alliance Rank and Points and can transfer to any other campaign. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Teevesnacks

ffs you still want to close scourge though, the only campaign where EP got full buffs fml, guess my decision has just been made to re-roll to AD

TheVoid

scourge just started to get live again, started to see lots of action and 3 way battles, and you guys do this without any prior notice.... gg guys time wastedxD

Korah_Eaglecry

Scourge had the largest population of EP players..While there are numerous Campaigns that both AD and DC have free reign over...Instead of taking one of those away...You chose to single out a EP heavy campaign?

Not sure if youre half baked when you make these decisions or your too blind to see how focusing on removing things that are populated by the Underdog Faction is bad for that Underdog Faction and your overall game Pop.

Cheapshot

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi folks, we posted an update on this issue:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Those of you who participated in the Scourge campaign have likely noticed that it is no longer available following our deployment of Update 1.1.2 today. During the maintenance, we added a new campaign with a 2-week duration. In light of this new campaign, we intended to close Scourge—but not quite so soon. An error in our update process ended the campaign prematurely on the North American megaserver and before we could give you adequate warning.

We know that Scourge players were invested in their battles in Cyrodiil, and we’re reaching out to the campaign’s emperors to ensure their accomplishments are preserved. If you played in Scourge, you’ll retain your Alliance Rank and Points and can transfer to any other campaign. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Can you clarify this further please?

mjspnrb18_ESO

I cannot believe this, Elite Guard and Guild of Shadows organised to take socurge to benefit the Pact and hold the map down so that EP had at least 1 campaign that they could transfer to, this caused a lot of stress and drama for the guild leaders of these two guilds (Zazeer & Empress) and they now have to move & re-organise over 1000 EP players and find them a new server, as well as the allied guilds that helped them. let alone those who were close to Emperor and losing our Buffs just as Craglorn comes out, this is a massive kick in the guts for EP

batz1989

So EP finally takes control of a campaign and our server gets deleted. Whooooo. It seems like if you aren't on AD then you are going to get screwed over. Thanks.

fallensbane_ESO

Close half the campaigns...

TheGrandAlliance

batz1989 wrote: »

So EP finally takes control of a campaign and our server gets deleted. Whooooo. It seems like if you aren't on AD then you are going to get screwed over. Thanks.

ONly true on the USA servers apparently.


EP dominate on many EU servers (including mine). Perhaps EP just needs some "serious training"...

Cheapshot

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

batz1989 wrote: »

So EP finally takes control of a campaign and our server gets deleted. Whooooo. It seems like if you aren't on AD then you are going to get screwed over. Thanks.

ONly true on the USA servers apparently.


EP dominate on many EU servers (including mine). Perhaps EP just needs some "serious training"...

Okay you are more then welcomed to "Train our EP" to be able to to take on AD which has probably 5:1 ratio easy. Not excluding if you're lucky you can get half a group to a full group at peak hours on most servers

TheGrandAlliance

Doing research over last few weeks... it appears that PvP has been abandoned en mass USA side. On EU there is still 5 servers that do (esp weekends) have locked populations all around. This include the top (alphabetical) 4 ones listed; Aur-Dawnbreaker and Wabbajack. EP wins on 3/5 of them (unless it has changed).

IF so... all you need to do is compress all players onto one server. Then there is "hope" for you. IN theory there are other strategies such as working with blue but they are more complex.

fallensbane_ESO

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Scourge had the largest population of EP players..While there are numerous Campaigns that both AD and DC have free reign over...Instead of taking one of those away...You chose to single out a EP heavy campaign?

Not sure if youre half baked when you make these decisions or your too blind to see how focusing on removing things that are populated by the Underdog Faction is bad for that Underdog Faction and your overall game Pop.

You should be complaining more about the fact they have way too many servers over which single one they 'swapped' out. Is PVEdooring really that fun? Because thats what EP was doing 90% of the time on scourge. No doubt thats what AD does on most of the campaigns they dominate too. But, as I and countless others have posted countless times. They need to end the current match early, nuke half the campaigns and reset everyones home server because this first match across all servers = fail.

Amulrei

Absolutely disgusting. Not only is nothing done to help with the massive population imbalance EP is forced to endure pretty much every campaign but when they finally manage to fight back against the odds they get slammed in the teeth for their efforts.

ESO PvP is already quickly being regarded as a laughing stock among the MMO communities. Much of it is to due to short-sighted and downright lazy BS like this.

Amulrei

Cheapshot wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

batz1989 wrote: »

So EP finally takes control of a campaign and our server gets deleted. Whooooo. It seems like if you aren't on AD then you are going to get screwed over. Thanks.

ONly true on the USA servers apparently.


EP dominate on many EU servers (including mine). Perhaps EP just needs some "serious training"...

Okay you are more then welcomed to "Train our EP" to be able to to take on AD which has probably 5:1 ratio easy. Not excluding if you're lucky you can get half a group to a full group at peak hours on most servers

Amen. I too would love to receive this magical "training" that allows us to fight against almost comical levels of outnumbering.

Of course, even if it we did it would likely result in another server shut down "just because".

galiumb16_ESO

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

I cannot believe this, Elite Guard and Guild of Shadows organised to take socurge to benefit the Pact and hold the map down so that EP had at least 1 campaign that they could transfer to, this caused a lot of stress and drama for the guild leaders of these two guilds (Zazeer & Empress) and they now have to move & re-organise over 1000 EP players and find them a new server, as well as the allied guilds that helped them. let alone those who were close to Emperor and losing our Buffs just as Craglorn comes out, this is a massive kick in the guts for EP

If they can coordinate over 1000 EP players, maybe they should pick a more active server, instead of an empty one. We need a bunch of campaigns to be shut down for the good of the game.

Sotha_Sil

A campaign reset for Craglorn would have been better in my opinion. I feel sad for the players on Scourge. EP on EU is having a hard time too.

But whatever the hurdles are, we will overcome them. Because WE ARE THE EBONHEART PACT - made of the bravest soldiers and we will stand against our enemies ! NORTHERNERS - LET'S SPILL BLOOD FOR THE PACT ! FOR THE TRIBUNAL AND TAMRIEL !

Zershar_Vemod

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

A campaign reset for Craglorn would have been better in my opinion. I feel sad for the players on Scourge. EP on EU is having a hard time too.

But whatever the hurdles are, we will overcome them. Because WE ARE THE EBONHEART PACT - made of the bravest soldiers and we will stand against our enemies ! NORTHERNERS - LET'S SPILL BLOOD FOR THE PACT ! FOR THE TRIBUNAL AND TAMRIEL !

EP is the least powerful faction. :P

But yes, this sucks due to this pre-closing, but in all honestly, from the US megaserver perspective at least, we need a lot of campaigns merged at one point. I have seen nothing but "low" populations for weeks on 99% of the campaigns.

Cheapshot

galiumb16_ESO wrote: »

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

I cannot believe this, Elite Guard and Guild of Shadows organised to take socurge to benefit the Pact and hold the map down so that EP had at least 1 campaign that they could transfer to, this caused a lot of stress and drama for the guild leaders of these two guilds (Zazeer & Empress) and they now have to move & re-organise over 1000 EP players and find them a new server, as well as the allied guilds that helped them. let alone those who were close to Emperor and losing our Buffs just as Craglorn comes out, this is a massive kick in the guts for EP

If they can coordinate over 1000 EP players, maybe they should pick a more active server, instead of an empty one. We need a bunch of campaigns to be shut down for the good of the game.

may the force be with you?

batz1989

Amulrei wrote: »

Cheapshot wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

batz1989 wrote: »

So EP finally takes control of a campaign and our server gets deleted. Whooooo. It seems like if you aren't on AD then you are going to get screwed over. Thanks.

ONly true on the USA servers apparently.


EP dominate on many EU servers (including mine). Perhaps EP just needs some "serious training"...

Okay you are more then welcomed to "Train our EP" to be able to to take on AD which has probably 5:1 ratio easy. Not excluding if you're lucky you can get half a group to a full group at peak hours on most servers

Amen. I too would love to receive this magical "training" that allows us to fight against almost comical levels of outnumbering.

Of course, even if it we did it would likely result in another server shut down "just because".

The two EP guilds mentioned in other comments on this thread (Guild of Shadows & Elite Guard) have done multiple emperor pushes on multiple servers to try and help out the Pact. We are often at 6 to 1 odds against AD and, more recently, with DC players as well; yet we still have succeeded in throning an EP emperor because we work together instead of just zerging, which seems to be the only tactic 99% of the ESO community knows how to do. So I'll kindly decline your offer for training because most should be learning from the few guilds who take PvP seriously and employ tactics, instead of just trying to steam-roll the whole map.

When our guilds moved to Scourge it was to escape the zerging nature of the other campaigns and to seek out a home where the players were serious and would actually fight with tactics with smaller forces. Scourge saw many brilliant battles between all the sides and provided a challenge for everyone, not only in capturing keeps, etc. but also in trying to maintain their spot on the leader board (lower numbers = more challenge). Due to the skill of the players on all sides of the battlefield, we became accustomed to the challenge; I know I for one found the "battles" in Wabbajack and Auriel's Bow to be laughable in comparison because the players were a lot more reckless and died a lot more frequently because of their zerging nature, so we would go to these servers in order to "farm" AP. So "letting" us keep our AP is beyond pointless because we burn through it so fast with siege, repairs, etc. and can regain it even faster by simply sitting on a keep wall and shooting at zergs.

The point I am trying to make is that maximum population sizes of servers should be decreased to combat the zerging as well as to encourage people to more seriously consider what campaign they will play on. And, most importantly, ZOS needs to stop making stupid decisions like deleting campaigns, particularly when it is the only one in which the underdog team is actually winning. As it's been stated multiple times already, it looks and feels like a giant "f*** you" to the players who invested the time and effort to play on Scourge (and to the EP as a whole when you combine this with the multitude of other bugs that EP has had to deal with, many of which have not had as much of an impact on AD or DC sides, though I am sure they have their bugs as well).

ardikus

So where did the EP scourge players move? I noticed last night that Goldbrand was mostly red. Good to have at least one dominant EP campaign.

batz1989

Do you think it is a coincidence that EP dominates another server once our old campaign was deleted?

Oblongship

I stand corrected by @Pancake_Tragedy

Oblongship

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi folks, we posted an update on this issue:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Those of you who participated in the Scourge campaign have likely noticed that it is no longer available following our deployment of Update 1.1.2 today. During the maintenance, we added a new campaign with a 2-week duration. In light of this new campaign, we intended to close Scourge—but not quite so soon. An error in our update process ended the campaign prematurely on the North American megaserver and before we could give you adequate warning.

We know that Scourge players were invested in their battles in Cyrodiil, and we’re reaching out to the campaign’s emperors to ensure their accomplishments are preserved. If you played in Scourge, you’ll retain your Alliance Rank and Points and can transfer to any other campaign. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Also are you serious??

HOLY CRAP how many more "Mistakes" will you make...every time I look here ZoS is saying "oh this was done by mistake" "oh sorry guys we tweeted craglorn was coming out oops mistake" "oh we are sorry we double billed you mistake" "oh sorry guys we know you were AoE banned by mistake" "oh sorry our algorithm messed up and thought you were a bot mistake" "Oh sorry it was a mistake that some abilities didn't have a cap" and that is just a few that I have seen...

"Mistake" seems to be your flimsy excuse...

How many more "mistakes" can their be?

It is just "Mistake" after "mistake" You are a professional company who is supposed to be running a professional product...When will you get your communication and "mistake" issues worked out...it really is getting embarrassing...

Pancake-Tragedy

Oblongship wrote: »

Its been gone for nearly a week now...

By she, I assume you mean jessica_folsom...and in that case it was more than a week ago. Pay attention to the dates man.

ardikus

Oblongship wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi folks, we posted an update on this issue:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Those of you who participated in the Scourge campaign have likely noticed that it is no longer available following our deployment of Update 1.1.2 today. During the maintenance, we added a new campaign with a 2-week duration. In light of this new campaign, we intended to close Scourge—but not quite so soon. An error in our update process ended the campaign prematurely on the North American megaserver and before we could give you adequate warning.

We know that Scourge players were invested in their battles in Cyrodiil, and we’re reaching out to the campaign’s emperors to ensure their accomplishments are preserved. If you played in Scourge, you’ll retain your Alliance Rank and Points and can transfer to any other campaign. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Also are you serious??

HOLY CRAP how many more "Mistakes" will you make...every time I look here ZoS is saying "oh this was done by mistake" "oh sorry guys we tweeted craglorn was coming out oops mistake" "oh we are sorry we double billed you mistake" "oh sorry guys we know you were AoE banned by mistake" "oh sorry our algorithm messed up and thought you were a bot mistake" "Oh sorry it was a mistake that some abilities didn't have a cap" and that is just a few that I have seen...

"Mistake" seems to be your flimsy excuse...

How many more "mistakes" can their be?

It is just "Mistake" after "mistake" You are a professional company who is supposed to be running a professional product...When will you get your communication and "mistake" issues worked out...it really is getting embarrassing...

I believe the most fitting word is Incompetence