lv3BOT use the "DELETE" characters to finish manty tasks get gold.it's a bug,stop it

wuwuguangyu

lv3BOT use the "DELETE" characters to finish manty tasks get gold.it's a bug,stop it

lv3bot everywhere..

Delete characters again and again..

BAN it.

Elirienne

errr.. what are you trying to say?

rattbagrwb17_ESO

I'm pretty sure the OP was having a stroke/seizure while creating both his username and this thread.
We need an 'Alert Emergency Services' button on the forums!

Squishy

I sense this thread could become worthy of popcorn and redbull for entertainment, so I'm posting to be updated in case this leads to something, serious or not.

KhajiitiLizard

OP sounds like a bot to me (username does not help either).

Catflinger

"Botters use the ability to make many level 3 characters to finish many tasks to get gold. Ban it." I am absolutely positive that the OP meant to post this.

DakotaCoty

wuwuguangyu wrote: »

lv3BOT use the "DELETE" characters to finish manty tasks get gold.it's a bug,stop it

lv3bot everywhere..

Delete characters again and again..

BAN it.

I believe he's saying;

Botters are using an exploit to finish a quest at level 3 which gives a lot of gold, delete their characters and do it over again.

Then again, if you inconsiderate a**holes just took a second and realised he maybe isn't an English speaker, then it would've been figured out a while back what he was trying to say.

Squishy

Catflinger wrote: »

"Botters use the ability to make many level 3 characters to finish many tasks to get gold. Ban it." I am absolutely positive that the OP meant to post this.

I honestly do not know... I re read it several times, and I thought it would give gold for deleting their L3 toons, like a new exploit.

DakotaCoty wrote: »

I believe he's saying;

Botters are using an exploit to finish a quest at level 3 which gives a lot of gold, delete their characters and do it over again.

Then again, if you inconsiderate a**holes just took a second and realised he maybe isn't an English speaker, then it would've been figured out a while back what he was trying to say.

Well, use google translate at LEAST. It took me 6 years to become, erm, readable in English, but when I was at the OP's level, I would not post in English, I'd just get someone to translate for me or not post...

At this point, I'm sorry, but a post like this is utterly useless, as nobody is 100% what the op means, or if it is just a trolling attempt. And communication will indeed be a complete nightmare with the OP for any kind of explanations on what he means...

The op could post in his/her native language, with the size of the game, someone's bound to be able to translate it

ZOS_CarolusS

Hello @wuwuguangyu,

thank you for your information, we are investigating it. The best way to report an explot is by using the /bug chat-command in-game. If you find a player participating in illegal activity, use the "Report Player" function by aiming at the player and holding F. A radial menu will appear where you can choose "Report Player".
You can also go to https://help.elderscrollsonline.com and submit a ticket if you have screenshots or video evidence. Please be advised, that we do not allow the posting of Bot-Videos on our forums, as this is effectively Naming-and-Shaming which is not allowed by our Community-Rules.

Again, thank you for your cooperation.

rattbagrwb17_ESO

Ohh wait .. do I have this right?

Someone has written a script that creates characters that skip coldharbor and start at level 3, then sell the basic armor/weapon they come with, bank the gold, delete the character and do it over again?

Could that be it?

KerinKor

I would suggest English isn't his first language but in all honesty I've never seen someone for whom English isn't their first language write something so odd.

KhajiitiLizard

rattbagrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Ohh wait .. do I have this right?

Someone has written a script that creates characters that skip coldharbor and start at level 3, then sell the basic armor/weapon they come with, bank the gold, delete the character and do it over again?

Could that be it?

Starting gear is worth nothing.

LordEcks

ThatArgonianGuy wrote: »

rattbagrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Ohh wait .. do I have this right?

Someone has written a script that creates characters that skip coldharbor and start at level 3, then sell the basic armor/weapon they come with, bank the gold, delete the character and do it over again?

Could that be it?

Starting gear is worth nothing.

There are quests where you literally do nothing but talk to a person or two and recieve roughly 50 gold and maybe an item.

Some of these are available right off the bat.

It may not seem like much, but roughly 50-100 gold obtainable in the span of 5 minutes (including the time required to deposit it into a bank) comes out to roughly 1k gold per hour. Which also doesnt seem like much (at higher levels). But being run by 1 bot for 3 days straight turns that into 72k gold, in just 3 days of not even playing.

These numbers are just made up, as I have no idea what the bots are doing, but this kind of scenario is more than likely going on at the moment.

EDIT: If you want an example, Joining the Fighters Guild and Mages guild requires nothing but a conversation and totals around 50 gold for the both of them combined.

This may be what the OP was complaining about (or something similar), but honestly a lot of games have this flaw and I dont see how they could feasibly fix it.

jjaebi

Gold spammers are currently amassing a wealth by following these simple steps

1. Create character
2. Create party with another toon that is resting somewhere within Coldharbour
3. Use the teleport to player function to reach Coldharbour as a level 3 toon
4. Finish the quest given by the initial NPC found in Coldharbour just by talking to it, which gives a couple of hundred gold.
5. Send gold to a separate communal toon via mail
6. Delete character
7. Rinse and repeat

Simple and uncreative but as of yet not taken care of, according to my knowledge.

Shame on you ZOS.

Pele

jjaebi wrote: »

Gold spammers are currently amassing a wealth by following these simple steps

1. Create character
2. Create party with another toon that is resting somewhere within Coldharbour
3. Use the teleport to player function to reach Coldharbour as a level 3 toon
4. Finish the quest given by the initial NPC found in Coldharbour just by talking to it, which gives a couple of hundred gold.
5. Send gold to a separate communal toon via mail
6. Delete character
7. Rinse and repeat

Simple and uncreative but as of yet not taken care of, according to my knowledge.

Shame on you ZOS.

I'm wondering if it's difficult to detect such behavior. Perhaps once a character is deleted, any logs and info tied to it is purged.

starkerealm

jjaebi wrote: »

Gold spammers are currently amassing a wealth by following these simple steps

1. Create character
2. Create party with another toon that is resting somewhere within Coldharbour
3. Use the teleport to player function to reach Coldharbour as a level 3 toon
4. Finish the quest given by the initial NPC found in Coldharbour just by talking to it, which gives a couple of hundred gold.
5. Send gold to a separate communal toon via mail
6. Delete character
7. Rinse and repeat

Simple and uncreative but as of yet not taken care of, according to my knowledge.

Shame on you ZOS.

2 isn't necessary.

If they've got someone on their friends list, or a guild member in Coldharbor or wherever, they could just port to them.

I kinda suspect the first bots in Coldharbor got there off of players who accidentally joined one of those goldseller guilds, never noticed, and continued leveling through the game.

Squishy

Pele wrote: »

I'm wondering if it's difficult to detect such behavior. Perhaps once a character is deleted, any logs and info tied to it is purged.

Doubtful, but not impossible.

starkerealm

Squishy wrote: »

Pele wrote: »

I'm wondering if it's difficult to detect such behavior. Perhaps once a character is deleted, any logs and info tied to it is purged.

Doubtful, but not impossible.

Doubtful, but slightly plausible. Customer service has repeatedly said there's no way they can restore deleted characters, even if it was the result of someone else getting into your account somehow.

LIQUID741

Maybe the OP is a disgruntled Bot selling his cousins out? Hmmm, perhaps.

zaria

Squishy wrote: »

Pele wrote: »

I'm wondering if it's difficult to detect such behavior. Perhaps once a character is deleted, any logs and info tied to it is purged.

Doubtful, but not impossible.

Everything you do in the game is logged. It should also be possible to both have functions in the module who handle the character/ account server side to watch for behavior like this, also to watch for bot / exploit patterns.
Stuff like creating and deleting hundred characters, player always give away all his loot many times each day, player farms for days as level 3.

Optional have an separate server analyze the logs, they went trough the log to take out the dupers.
An idea to flag suspect players as possible bots for extra monitoring. This is also useful as goldfarmers use the same script on all bots in a group, if two players do exactly the same over 15 minutes its proof of boting.

ShintaiDK

We just need a 4-8 hour cooldown or something on new characters after a delete.

zaria

starkerealm wrote: »

Squishy wrote: »

Pele wrote: »

I'm wondering if it's difficult to detect such behavior. Perhaps once a character is deleted, any logs and info tied to it is purged.

Doubtful, but not impossible.

Doubtful, but slightly plausible. Customer service has repeatedly said there's no way they can restore deleted characters, even if it was the result of someone else getting into your account somehow.

This is also nonsense.
In WOW you can get an hacked account reset to the time you was hacked.

Yes it might not be an easy way to do it so they refuses.

Blackwidow

DakotaCoty wrote: »

Then again, if you inconsiderate a**holes just took a second and realised he maybe isn't an English speaker, then it would've been figured out a while back what he was trying to say.

QFT.

mndfreeze

Yeah, them saying they cannot restore a character that's been deleted means their policy is not to do it regardless of the situation, so CS reps have a for sure answer for people calling in asking for it. It could be because of the complexity involved in doing it, it could be because they currently just don't have the in house tools written in a simple enough form for CS people to use, it could be because the developers/admins/systems people are far to busy on bigger more important things at the momeny to get bogged down with that kind of thing, etc. But it CAN be done.

Lovely

ShintaiDK wrote: »

We just need a 4-8 hour cooldown or something on new characters after a delete.

I have a Sorcerer named Cris. She's pretty and all but I haven't played her much because I already have a Sorcerer and an Altmer. I was thinking of deleting her and making an Argonian. So basically delete her and wait for 4-8 hours? What about the name I wanted to reuse?

Censorious

This is presumably related to other posts people have made stating that characters can be created, run through a few simple quests, then deleted. Automatically.

This ties in with something I observed the other day in Bangkorai:
A whole queue of identical bots was running through the air in a dead-straight line, one after the other at intervals of a couple of seconds or less. They seemed to start at Halcyon way-point and travelled a couple of hundred yards south west along the beach,10-20 feet up at high speed.
They dropped out of the air at a wall near the edge of the map and then close-queued for a second or two before vanishing into the wall. I couldn't see any dungeon or anything of interest nearby.
Then there would be a break of 20-30 seconds followed by another batch. I didn't count them but possibly 8 or so at a time?
They were dressed in prison rags.

ShintaiDK

Lovely wrote: »

ShintaiDK wrote: »

We just need a 4-8 hour cooldown or something on new characters after a delete.

I have a Sorcerer named Cris. She's pretty and all but I haven't played her much because I already have a Sorcerer and an Altmer. I was thinking of deleting her and making an Argonian. So basically delete her and wait for 4-8 hours? What about the name I wanted to reuse?

Unless you use all 8 slots, you can just recreate on the next slot right away.

zhevon

mndfreeze wrote: »

Yeah, them saying they cannot restore a character that's been deleted means their policy is not to do it regardless of the situation, so CS reps have a for sure answer for people calling in asking for it. It could be because of the complexity involved in doing it, it could be because they currently just don't have the in house tools written in a simple enough form for CS people to use, it could be because the developers/admins/systems people are far to busy on bigger more important things at the momeny to get bogged down with that kind of thing, etc. But it CAN be done.

I have a sneaking suspicion of what I have seen is there are a lot off issues where the CS doesn't have the tools to do the job. I have always wondered why MMOs don't put CS tools as a priority when developing; its a no brainer. - especially after the design of the database has been completed.

zhevon

ShintaiDK wrote: »

We just need a 4-8 hour cooldown or something on new characters after a delete.

And IF the cooldown also includes the ability to restore the character during that time if we change our mind; it would be a nice tradeoff.

zaria

ShintaiDK wrote: »

We just need a 4-8 hour cooldown or something on new characters after a delete.

No to more stupid nerfs who restrict normal gameplay, don't take far more work to implement an auto ban on players who make and delete 30 characters over 2 hours. Might be best to send an mail after 15 and tell them to stop that they are doing.

ShintaiDK

zaria wrote: »

No to more stupid nerfs who restrict normal gameplay, don't take far more work to implement an auto ban on players who make and delete 30 characters over 2 hours. Might be best to send an mail after 15 and tell them to stop that they are doing.

Its not a nerf. And other MMOs uses this way.