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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

AD cant win without exploits

cypherclone_ESO
cypherclone_ESO
Soul Shriven
As an EP player on SkullCrusher Campaign with the unfortunate AD covered map, we try to do the best we can to PvP. As we progress through sieging, we notice a few things the AD are doing to win their sides.

1. Repairing the walls while the keep is still under attack? With stealthed NB's?
2. Shooting players through walls.
3. Firepots doing damage through the floors/ ceilings.
4. Transporting instantly to other "players" rather than the shrines while keep is under seige.

Not to mention that they already outnumber us like 10 to 1 but no matter we should not have to deal with all this crap that they have been doing with this. This has to be happening on other maps but seems like no one wants to "fess-up" cause everyone is in love with The Noore.

Well wanna know what I feel about that? LOL Cheat #%$-hats!! All they can do is ZERG and cheat to get what they want plus in PvP they ask for "help" from other guild to get to their end goals. Thats not how a lead guild that "claims" to be the best guild in the ESO community for PvP and PVE should be a zerg group relying on others to stake their claims.
  • Gisgo
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    Dem bananas :p
  • Manoekin
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    Feel free to vent your frustrations here. That's what we're here for.
  • Arkadius
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    AD should be removed from the game. Problem solved!
  • Gisgo
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    Xiana wrote: »
    AD should be removed from the game. Problem solved!

    But.. but... they are my favourite mob :\

  • Avidus
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    You forgot how they use the Caltrops bug too.
  • Lord_Draevan
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    Avidus wrote: »
    You forgot how they use the Caltrops bug too.

    Mercilessly, too. I know all 3 factions do it, but yeesh, AD...
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  • Glurin
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    As an EP player on SkullCrusher Campaign with the unfortunate AD covered map, we try to do the best we can to PvP. As we progress through sieging, we notice a few things the AD are doing to win their sides.

    1. Repairing the walls while the keep is still under attack? With stealthed NB's?
    2. Shooting players through walls.
    3. Firepots doing damage through the floors/ ceilings.
    4. Transporting instantly to other "players" rather than the shrines while keep is under seige.

    These things are hardly AD specific. I've seen both EP and DC doing the same thing a whole lot.
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  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Glurin wrote: »
    As an EP player on SkullCrusher Campaign with the unfortunate AD covered map, we try to do the best we can to PvP. As we progress through sieging, we notice a few things the AD are doing to win their sides.

    1. Repairing the walls while the keep is still under attack? With stealthed NB's?
    2. Shooting players through walls.
    3. Firepots doing damage through the floors/ ceilings.
    4. Transporting instantly to other "players" rather than the shrines while keep is under seige.

    These things are hardly AD specific. I've seen both EP and DC doing the same thing a whole lot.

    Ofc everyone does it.

    OP is just sad his faction is eating dust.
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  • Dleatherus
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    @cypherclone_ESO‌

    I can only speak for members of the Noore, and not the other members in AD in Skull Crusher

    members of The Noore have been specifically asked to NOT use caltrops AT ALL until the hotfix is put in place

    there are for sure a number of AD players using it and we have asked them NOT to do so in chat - the response to our request has hardly been pleasant - we have taken screen shots and bug reported this exploit

    we find it pathetic and disgusting that anybody exploits this, but particularly an alliance that has the emperor bonuses, scroll bonuses, and keep bonuses - so i hear and understand your frustation and annoyance

    so you might well see us in combat and caltrops appearing by others throwing them - we have actually abandoned keep defences on account of AD players cheating this way (Farregut defence last night as an example)

    we don't shoot players thru walls - some of the game mechanics and animations mean that a player can hide behind a wall but still get damage from the last attack if he had been exposed (particularly ranged) - it's very feasible that 2-3 players in stealth snipe a chosen target and bring him down in what appears to be suspicious circumstances

    we do repair walls legitimately if they are repairable - you are able to do so while stealthed - keep the wall under attack if you want to prevent that from happening

    we don't transport to other players other than by legitimate means allowed by the game (though i think dying to anything other than a player should make you respawn at the starting gates, and not at your choice of any keep you own)

    please be aware that there are many many more AD players in Skull Crusher than just the Noore - we typically number 4-12 (most of us are now playing in Wabba and Bloodthorn) - if you see ANYBODY exploiting you should screen shot it and submit it to the devs

    we have also never claimed to be the best guild in ESO = this is what happens when folks listen to other folks who started silly rumous - please be specific where you have seen this, and which guild did we ask help from? - am confused here

    finally, if you, or anybody else, has an issue with The Noore, or any of it's members in terms of cheating, exploiting or any other legitimate issue you are more than welcome to msg me personally or I am happy to talk 1 on 1 in voice comms

    ty

    D.
    Edited by Dleatherus on 22 May 2014 03:06
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  • Anazasi
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    Hey Noore, if you are feeling lonely hop over to vulendrung and help wipe Gutsu's crew of EP. We refuse to use the same exploits and have walked away because of it.
  • dcincali
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    We can confirm there is currently a bug with Caltrops, as some of you have called out. We have a fix for it that will go live shortly after the Craglorn patch.

    It's not an exploit, it is a bug.. Move on... Nothing to see here...

    Suggestions:
    Get a better group
    Move to a new campaign
    Go back to wow
    Do more pve till the bug is patched..
  • Shillen
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    Bugs that can be used advantageously to a players benefit are exploits.
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  • Kevaliji
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    Yea, pretty much all the "pro" guilds do is exploit broken builds and use game breaking bugs to their advantage. I left Skull Crusher for similar reasons. I dont blame any guild in particular i just find it funny how they sit back and think they are good at a game they have to exploit in order to compete.

    I have a feeling once all the bugs are fixed, you wont have to worry about any of these guys again. They will be trash because they dont have their crutch caltrops, or easy mode cheese builds to fall back on.
  • Lord_Draevan
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    Caltrop bug, caltrop exploit, whatever you call it it's getting patched tomorrow with the Craglorn patch.
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  • Suenaga
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    Anazasi wrote: »
    Hey Noore, if you are feeling lonely hop over to vulendrung and help wipe Gutsu's crew of EP. We refuse to use the same exploits and have walked away because of it.

    Can't speak for the Noore as a whole but as part of the late night-early morning crew we might be able to hop into Vulendrung in the next few weeks or so.

    Edited by Suenaga on 22 May 2014 04:26
    Rhaenys (Sorcerer of Aldmeri Dominion)
    Suenaga (Dragonknight of Aldmeri Dominion)
    Member of The Noore
  • Tintinabula
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    Using a bug knowing its a bugged mechanic inorder to enhance your gaming experience=EXPLOIT

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  • Armitas
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    Dleatherus wrote: »
    @cypherclone_ESO‌

    I can only speak for members of the Noore, and not the other members in AD in Skull Crusher

    members of The Noore have been specifically asked to NOT use caltrops AT ALL until the hotfix is put in place

    there are for sure a number of AD players using it and we have asked them NOT to do so in chat - the response to our request has hardly been pleasant - we have taken screen shots and bug reported this exploit

    we find it pathetic and disgusting that anybody exploits this, but particularly an alliance that has the emperor bonuses, scroll bonuses, and keep bonuses - so i hear and understand your frustation and annoyance

    so you might well see us in combat and caltrops appearing by others throwing them - we have actually abandoned keep defences on account of AD players cheating this way (Farregut defence last night as an example)

    we don't shoot players thru walls - some of the game mechanics and animations mean that a player can hide behind a wall but still get damage from the last attack if he had been exposed (particularly ranged) - it's very feasible that 2-3 players in stealth snipe a chosen target and bring him down in what appears to be suspicious circumstances

    we do repair walls legitimately if they are repairable - you are able to do so while stealthed - keep the wall under attack if you want to prevent that from happening

    we don't transport to other players other than by legitimate means allowed by the game (though i think dying to anything other than a player should make you respawn at the starting gates, and not at your choice of any keep you own)

    please be aware that there are many many more AD players in Skull Crusher than just the Noore - we typically number 4-12 (most of us are now playing in Wabba and Bloodthorn) - if you see ANYBODY exploiting you should screen shot it and submit it to the devs

    we have also never claimed to be the best guild in ESO = this is what happens when folks listen to other folks who started silly rumous - please be specific where you have seen this, and which guild did we ask help from? - am confused here

    finally, if you, or anybody else, has an issue with The Noore, or any of it's members in terms of cheating, exploiting or any other legitimate issue you are more than welcome to msg me personally or I am happy to talk 1 on 1 in voice comms

    ty

    D.

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    Not to mention the spirit armor bug, I still have it. 5% more armor is such an advantage
  • Izatar
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    Do not assign blame to a single faction. Not just because people on all factions are exploiting. The problem is much deeper than that . Exploiters on AD are the exact same people who exploit on DC. Do you see? You don't really understand what is going on if you don't see this! There is no such thing as 'faction' in this game, it is roleplay only.
  • pad11
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    Suenaga wrote: »
    Anazasi wrote: »
    Hey Noore, if you are feeling lonely hop over to vulendrung and help wipe Gutsu's crew of EP. We refuse to use the same exploits and have walked away because of it.

    Can't speak for the Noore as a whole but as part of the late night-early morning crew we might be able to hop into Vulendrung in the next few weeks or so.

    Yes Rhae sounds great! Let me know and let's see what we can do! Wooot!

    @pad11 / Emma!
  • Rylana
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    lolwut? As a member of a small gank group guild, we see WAYYYY more DC/EP using exploits and cheesy tactics than you might realize is going on.

    Cant speak for the rest of my AD brothers, but there be no exploiting going on that I am aware of in either the small guild or the big extended group I run with.
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  • RedTalon
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    Lets face it cheating and exploits are the only way to win now a days, hopefully that will change in the future.

    -sighs- have seen my share of abuse on all factions, really don't get why people feel the need to do some crap.
  • buttclown69
    I honestly didn't know until about 2-3 days ago they were bugged and able to do this. I honestly love caltraps just for the slowing effect on enemies and being able to slow them down, great for defending a keep almost lost.

    I don't think I ever used them to exploit because I am unsure of how it's done, not that it matters now, but if I did I apologize.

    I know I will still be using them though just because they are awesome :)
    Edited by buttclown69 on 22 May 2014 13:50
  • ZOS_EveP
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    Hi guys,

    We would ask you to remain constructive in your discussions. Accusing a faction of using cheats and exploits is not the best way to starts a discussion. If you wish to discuss in the balance of a campaign feel free to open a new topic. Thank you.
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