How many hours do you need to be logged off each day to get max enlightenment?

IcyDeadPeople

If I understand correctly, you need to be logged off a minimum number of hours to get the maximum amount of enlightenment.

In other words, some who is logged on 24 hours straight would get zero enlightenment, right? Anyone able to clarify how this works?

Merlin13KAGL

You have to not have played that particular character to gain enlightenment. You can bank this for up to 3 days (3 days not played, 3x the enlightenment period = 12 CP's worth)

You are free to log in to a different character and it should not (negatively) affect your enlightenment gain on the remaining characters.

EDIT: Further, It''s not even about being logged in, it's about the last time you earned XP's. If you stand around crafting long enough (not writs), you will actually become enlightened.

IcyDeadPeople

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

You have to not have played that particular character to gain enlightenment. You can bank this for up to 3 days (3 days not played, 3x the enlightenment period = 12 CP's worth)

You are free to log in to a different character and it should not (negatively) affect your enlightenment gain on the remaining characters.

EDIT: Further, It''s not even about being logged in, it's about the last time you earned XP's. If you stand around crafting long enough (not writs), you will actually become enlightened.

Thanks! I will try this; however, last night when I switched to a different character after the enlightenment period ended on my main, it seemed that the enlightenment buff ended for my other character as well.

Fat_Cat45

I have a different experience with the enlightenment time frame.

I got enlightenment 24 hours after I logged on to the game once 1.6 was live. It lasted until I used up all the bonus xp in the pool, got me over 5 points worth. It didn't matter which character I was logged on to, they all had the bonus. The xp pool from enlightenment was account wide and any VR character I had could use it.

Once I used up the bonus xp pool it was gone from all characters (aka my account). I should be getting enlightenment again in 3 hours because that is 24 hours after I received it yesterday.

So it goes on a 24 hour schedule (think of hirelings) and can be used by any VR character, but it is split account wide. And being logged in or out does not affect this.

HungryHobo

The enlightenment buff is a shared xp bonus between all your Veteran Characters directed solely towards CP gains. It should be good for 4 x CP's per day. So you accrue 400K xp worth of quadruple xp points every 24 hours. This can stack up to 3 days worth of enlightenment, or 1.2mil normal xp (4.8 mil enlightened xp = 12 enlightened CP gains). It is capped at that point though.

IcyDeadPeople

HungryHobo wrote: »

The enlightenment buff is a shared xp bonus between all your Veteran Characters directed solely towards CP gains. It should be good for 4 x CP's per day. So you accrue 400K xp worth of quadruple xp points every 24 hours. This can stack up to 3 days worth of enlightenment, or 1.2mil normal xp (4.8 mil enlightened xp = 12 enlightened CP gains). It is capped at that point though.

Thanks, so to get the maximum possible enlightenment each day, do I need to be logged off from that character, or not earning any XP with any VR character for a minimum number of hours?

Otherwise, if you keep grinding straight through for 24 hours, will you still get the maximum 400K enlightenment when the next 24 hours rolls around?

Khaldar

So... basically... if you want CPs do not play the game except for a brief grinding period everyday or three? If you don't want CPs, feel free to do quests and PvP at your hearts content?

HungryHobo

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

HungryHobo wrote: »

The enlightenment buff is a shared xp bonus between all your Veteran Characters directed solely towards CP gains. It should be good for 4 x CP's per day. So you accrue 400K xp worth of quadruple xp points every 24 hours. This can stack up to 3 days worth of enlightenment, or 1.2mil normal xp (4.8 mil enlightened xp = 12 enlightened CP gains). It is capped at that point though.

Thanks, so to get the maximum possible enlightenment each day, do I need to be logged off from that character, or not earning any XP with any VR character for a minimum number of hours?

Otherwise, if you keep grinding straight through for 24 hours, will you still get the maximum 400K enlightenment when the next 24 hours rolls around?

yep, 24 hours = 400k enlightened xp regardless of what you do. I say keep grindin'. Once you use up your enlightened you go back to normal xp gain, but it doesn't (or shouldn't) affect the 400k gain of the next 24 hour period.

nerevarine1138

Khaldar wrote: »

So... basically... if you want CPs do not play the game except for a brief grinding period everyday or three? If you don't want CPs, feel free to do quests and PvP at your hearts content?

No. Play the game as much as you want. If you can devote 8+ hours a day, great. You'll earn lots of CP. If you have a job/life, great. Then you'll have more enlightenment to let you keep earning CP at a decent clip.

HungryHobo

Khaldar wrote: »

So... basically... if you want CPs do not play the game except for a brief grinding period everyday or three? If you don't want CPs, feel free to do quests and PvP at your hearts content?

depends how valuable you see your time investment per CP gain. I can get 1 CP/10 minutes enlightened on my V3 character (1 per 40 mins w/o enlightened xp). I also am leveling them at the same time, so the enlightened bonus is just icing on the grinding cake for me..

Dagoth_Rac

I get the impression you are supposed to get (it might be bugged right now) a set amount of Enlightenment every day, regardless of whether you played 0 hours the day before or 24 hours. It sounds almost like an invisible hireling email that delivers you Enlightenment every day. It doesn't seem like CP efficiency is about logging out for a set period of time, but more about not earning more than a certain amount of XP each day.

Khaldar

I still haven't earned 1 Enlightened buff (outside of the bugged three that disappeared immediately after appearing yesterday). I just logged in for the first time in 16 hours... nothing... effing joke

Ommamar

HungryHobo wrote: »

Khaldar wrote: »

So... basically... if you want CPs do not play the game except for a brief grinding period everyday or three? If you don't want CPs, feel free to do quests and PvP at your hearts content?

depends how valuable you see your time investment per CP gain. I can get 1 CP/10 minutes enlightened on my V3 character (1 per 40 mins w/o enlightened xp). I also am leveling them at the same time, so the enlightened bonus is just icing on the grinding cake for me..

This does not match my experience I have not gotten a single CP since update and that is probably after 7 hours of play maybe even 8.

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

I get the impression you are supposed to get (it might be bugged right now) a set amount of Enlightenment every day, regardless of whether you played 0 hours the day before or 24 hours. It sounds almost like an invisible hireling email that delivers you Enlightenment every day. It doesn't seem like CP efficiency is about logging out for a set period of time, but more about not earning more than a certain amount of XP each day.

This is my understanding of the system too Dagoth_Rac

Troneon

A system that encourages people to not play the game....

Ok then....

HungryHobo

CP efficiency is all about grinding at the moment. I don't mind it, as I am leveling up too. If it is not worth your time to gain CP without enlightenment, then don't. But it is the most efficient just to continually grind XP, seeing as you get the most XP/hour grinding compared to anything else at the moment.

The problem is that anything BUT grinding feels too slow. if you can make 300xp/hour pvping regularly or 300xp per hour doing other non-gindy things, it would make it feel more rewarding.

Hutuldur

Same amount enlightenment comes no matter, if you are logged in 24/7 or won't login for 48 hours. No matter how many characters you play or won't play.

So play as much as you want, you won't lose anything.

jeevin

Troneon wrote: »

A system that encourages people to not play the game....

Ok then....

Yep that's what I get from the whole enlightenment thing. Don't play the game until you have max enlightenment, then when it's gone, log off. It's the most efficient way to level.

Max2497

Fat_Cat45 wrote: »

I have a different experience with the enlightenment time frame.

I got enlightenment 24 hours after I logged on to the game once 1.6 was live. It lasted until I used up all the bonus xp in the pool, got me over 5 points worth. It didn't matter which character I was logged on to, they all had the bonus. The xp pool from enlightenment was account wide and any VR character I had could use it.

Once I used up the bonus xp pool it was gone from all characters (aka my account). I should be getting enlightenment again in 3 hours because that is 24 hours after I received it yesterday.

So it goes on a 24 hour schedule (think of hirelings) and can be used by any VR character, but it is split account wide. And being logged in or out does not affect this.

This is the way it's supposed to,be working, but there have been numerous people reporting that it's not working as intended.

Dagoth_Rac

Max2497 wrote: »

Fat_Cat45 wrote: »

I have a different experience with the enlightenment time frame.

I got enlightenment 24 hours after I logged on to the game once 1.6 was live. It lasted until I used up all the bonus xp in the pool, got me over 5 points worth. It didn't matter which character I was logged on to, they all had the bonus. The xp pool from enlightenment was account wide and any VR character I had could use it.

Once I used up the bonus xp pool it was gone from all characters (aka my account). I should be getting enlightenment again in 3 hours because that is 24 hours after I received it yesterday.

So it goes on a 24 hour schedule (think of hirelings) and can be used by any VR character, but it is split account wide. And being logged in or out does not affect this.

This is the way it's supposed to,be working, but there have been numerous people reporting that it's not working as intended.

I have been playing a single char on and off for the last 48 hours. I got Enlightenment once, but I seemed to use it up in about 2 minutes. I have not gained a single Champion Point. I do not really like grinding. Just doing normal game activity, at least when not Enlightened, is horribly slow. I might gain a CP once a week with no Enlightenment and no grinding.

Could this having something to do with only having one VR character? Are people who just have one character they play seeing this, while people who have multiple VR alts they switch between getting Enlightenment as expected?

Troneon

jeevin wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

A system that encourages people to not play the game....

Ok then....

Yep that's what I get from the whole enlightenment thing. Don't play the game until you have max enlightenment, then when it's gone, log off. It's the most efficient way to level.

And the most *** system and so oldschool....

It just encourages people to NOT play the game to get the most out of their game...just silly.

Sandmanninja

Enlightment is the equivalent of Rest XP. It's not designed to be amassed on your main toon. Rather the alts you don't play a whole lot of.

If you're OCD with a main and multiple alts, you'd do your thing with your Main, log out, log on to alt #1, play him a bit, log off for the night. Next day you log on to your main, log off, log on to alt #2, play him a bit, then log off. Rotate them and they'll always be accruing rest xp.

OR

You work a fulltime job, have a family, and not much time to play. ZOS gives you an xp buff so that it helps offset the limited amount of hours you have to spend in the game.

IcyDeadPeople

Sandmanninja wrote: »

Enlightment is the equivalent of Rest XP. It's not designed to be amassed on your main toon. Rather the alts you don't play a whole lot of.

If you're OCD with a main and multiple alts, you'd do your thing with your Main, log out, log on to alt #1, play him a bit, log off for the night. Next day you log on to your main, log off, log on to alt #2, play him a bit, then log off. Rotate them and they'll always be accruing rest xp.

Can you explain how this works a bit more? The way you are describing it sounds quite different from what others have indicated in this thread, that everyone automatically receives the maximum possible enlightenment (4 CP worth) every 24 hours.

What exactly is "rest XP" and how do you accrue it? Apologies if this is a common term, I do not have experience with other MMOs.

c0rp

I played an alt today for the first time since 1.6 launched, and my enlightenment disappeared after 5k xp.

IcyDeadPeople

c0rp wrote: »

I played an alt today for the first time since 1.6 launched, and my enlightenment disappeared after 5k xp.

Yesterday I had enlightenment when I logged on to my VR14 around 10 or 11pm PST. Enlightened (concentration) buff ended immediately after I earned 4 CP (400K XP).

However, my friend only earned 1 CP and then the Enlightened buff expired for him. If you are earning XP very slowly, does Enlightened buff disappear after a few hours? Or is it supposed to remain until you earn 400K (4CP)?

The only difference I can think of is that my friend was playing pretty steadily on a couple different characters since Patch 1.6 while I didn't play at all for about 14 hours before I logged in last night.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

jeevin wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

A system that encourages people to not play the game....

Ok then....

Yep that's what I get from the whole enlightenment thing. Don't play the game until you have max enlightenment, then when it's gone, log off. It's the most efficient way to level.

are you kidding? if we get the buff no matter what then obviously staying logged in and playing with no buff still gets more xp than not playing at all....

Troneon

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

jeevin wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

A system that encourages people to not play the game....

Ok then....

Yep that's what I get from the whole enlightenment thing. Don't play the game until you have max enlightenment, then when it's gone, log off. It's the most efficient way to level.

are you kidding? if we get the buff no matter what then obviously staying logged in and playing with no buff still gets more xp than not playing at all....

You would think so wouldn't you? Apparently most are claiming the opposite. I guess that's why most have voted that xp gain is too slow.

So is logging out and increasing your rested exp bonus to max first before playing the best thing to do? Seems a little counter intuitive.

jeevin

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

jeevin wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

A system that encourages people to not play the game....

Ok then....

Yep that's what I get from the whole enlightenment thing. Don't play the game until you have max enlightenment, then when it's gone, log off. It's the most efficient way to level.

are you kidding? if we get the buff no matter what then obviously staying logged in and playing with no buff still gets more xp than not playing at all....

I've yet to receive enlightenment yet(boo hiss) but was under the impression that it accrues from player absence as a sort of catch up device.

Wolfchild07

I think it's combined player absence AND character absence. Like someone else said, rotate your characters. Yes, it's inconvenient, but if you log in every day with all your vets, then your "rest" xp will accumulate and not get used up so quickly.

Palidon

Fat_Cat45 wrote: »

I have a different experience with the enlightenment time frame.

I got enlightenment 24 hours after I logged on to the game once 1.6 was live. It lasted until I used up all the bonus xp in the pool, got me over 5 points worth. It didn't matter which character I was logged on to, they all had the bonus. The xp pool from enlightenment was account wide and any VR character I had could use it.

Once I used up the bonus xp pool it was gone from all characters (aka my account). I should be getting enlightenment again in 3 hours because that is 24 hours after I received it yesterday.

So it goes on a 24 hour schedule (think of hirelings) and can be used by any VR character, but it is split account wide. And being logged in or out does not affect this.

Thats if its working and for a lot of players it is not.

Mettaricana

HungryHobo wrote: »

Khaldar wrote: »

So... basically... if you want CPs do not play the game except for a brief grinding period everyday or three? If you don't want CPs, feel free to do quests and PvP at your hearts content?

depends how valuable you see your time investment per CP gain. I can get 1 CP/10 minutes enlightened on my V3 character (1 per 40 mins w/o enlightened xp). I also am leveling them at the same time, so the enlightened bonus is just icing on the grinding cake for me..

this! i feel the same its like mini levelign during vet levels rather than a 1 mil exp grind that can put the most active into a coma from boredom

IcyDeadPeople

On the day of the patch, I didn't log on until around 10:30PM PST and immediately had full enlightenment (400K). I used up all the enlightenment, kept playing for a few hours and earned 4 CP, then the enlightenment stopped around 3:30AM.

The second day, I logged on around 10:30PM PST, and I didn't have any enlightenment. At 3:30AM, I got enlightenment, but it was not 400K XP worth, the tooltip said I had only 315K XP worth of enlightenment, if I understand correctly. The enlightenment was used up a few hours later, around 6 or 7AM.

Are we supposed to receive the enlightenment exactly 24 hours after the previous enlightenment was used up? If so, it would not seem to be accruing at the rate of 400K XP for every 24 hours, unless it does not accrue at all while you have enlightenment (i.e., only starts accruing again when your current enlightenment is used up).