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ZOS Why does your group finder match me with a group on last boss when pledge needs multi boss kills

nk125x
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Can we please have a button "New Instance only"! or stop the 15 min shut out
  • molecule
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    Its a group finder, it matched you with a group - Job done
  • starkerealm
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    Or just change the pledge reqs to being a final boss kill only? Like they did with some of the later DLC dungeons.
  • nk125x
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    Or just change the pledge reqs to being a final boss kill only? Like they did with some of the later DLC dungeons.

    That's the best solution
  • stvwhitewalker
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    this has been an issue since the game out and despite many ask's it has always fell on the ever so reliable deaf ears of the even more reliable staff at ZOS, the only thing that we can now guarantee that will ever be accomplished is that they are more proficient at making the game worse through years of practice
  • Dalsinthus
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    nk125x wrote: »
    Or just change the pledge reqs to being a final boss kill only? Like they did with some of the later DLC dungeons.

    That's the best solution
    This risks having people kick someone at the last boss so their buddy can join for an easy pledge.

  • starkerealm
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    this has been an issue since the game out...

    The group finder was added post-launch. I mean, you're not wrong, and it's been an issue since pledges became a thing. I can't remember if pledges came in with the group finder or if they were later.

    Either way, we've got a good solution, if they'd just implement it. Best/worst of all, these aren't even the same pledges we were getting originally. A lot of them were changed with One Tamriel.
  • Juhasow
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    Because group finder is not a pledge finder.
  • Alinhbo_Tyaka
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    Dalsinthus wrote: »
    nk125x wrote: »
    Or just change the pledge reqs to being a final boss kill only? Like they did with some of the later DLC dungeons.

    That's the best solution
    This risks having people kick someone at the last boss so their buddy can join for an easy pledge.

    While I think it would be rare since a lot of folks want to get in an out quickly that could be resolved by disabling the kick timer for 5 or 10 minutes after a new player joins on the last boss.
  • starkerealm
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    Dalsinthus wrote: »
    nk125x wrote: »
    Or just change the pledge reqs to being a final boss kill only? Like they did with some of the later DLC dungeons.

    That's the best solution
    This risks having people kick someone at the last boss so their buddy can join for an easy pledge.

    Already an issue on some pledges. But, not something you'd normally see. If someone wants to bring in their buddy, they're simply going to bring them along.
  • redlink1979
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    The tool prioritizes groups over individuals.
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  • Heelie
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    Just ask to get kicked. If they refuse just sit at the beginning of the dungeon till they do so, if 15 min passes simply leave the group and queue again
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  • nk125x
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    Heelie wrote: »
    Just ask to get kicked. If they refuse just sit at the beginning of the dungeon till they do so, if 15 min passes simply leave the group and queue again

    Thats unfair for both

    In FF14 they have a toggle "Allow queue to part complete"
  • VaranisArano
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    One of the purposes of groupfinder (when its working) is to backfill groups in need of a replacement member.

    Letting players opt out of serving as a replacement means groups who have a member quit, have to left, or get kicked have to wait longer for a replacement.
  • CiliPadi
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    nk125x wrote: »
    Can we please have a button "New Instance only"! or stop the 15 min shut out

    It's broken, what do you expect?
  • Hapexamendios
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    nk125x wrote: »
    Can we please have a button "New Instance only"! or stop the 15 min shut out

    I can understand you wanting a new feature in the Group Finder, but they can’t even get it operating correctly as it is.
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    At the very least if you get "join in progress." you should be credited with the groups completion of the dungeon to that point. Or don't JIP us.
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    Heelie wrote: »
    Just ask to get kicked. If they refuse just sit at the beginning of the dungeon till they do so, if 15 min passes simply leave the group and queue again

    This. I have never been refused when I have asked to be kicked.
  • kargen27
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    molecule wrote: »
    Its a group finder, it matched you with a group - Job done

    Yeah but it isn't a job well done.
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    nk125x wrote: »
    Heelie wrote: »
    Just ask to get kicked. If they refuse just sit at the beginning of the dungeon till they do so, if 15 min passes simply leave the group and queue again

    Thats unfair for both

    In FF14 they have a toggle "Allow queue to part complete"

    And this is far from the only MMO doing it. I had been playing SWTOR for years and groupfinder also comes with a case to check (or not): "in progress".

    There are very few instances where I will go for a last boss, most of the time when you are replacing someone it means that the group has issues, I am not going to waste my time for a fail last boss run.
  • CAB_Life
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    Either “new instance only” or correct the requirements as with the most recent DLC dungeons where you only need to complete the instance. That would be the easier fix, I believe, since more fiddling with Activity Finder is probably a bad idea lol
  • mocap
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    one time i got group when they already killed final boss, one of players quit and somehow they start searching for replacement )
  • Jayman1000
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    Did you really expect ZOS to program group finder to consider quest objectives? :D but seriously I agree, it should, but it doesn't.
  • RaveRaveRaveRave
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    nk125x wrote: »
    Or just change the pledge reqs to being a final boss kill only? Like they did with some of the later DLC dungeons.

    That's the best solution

    Then everyone is gonna run past everything to the last boss. I hate that nonsense. I like to kill things. The main pleasure of the game is crushing things and watching the moves and numbers fly...not running past everything to the last boss over and over again like it's your mundane job.
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    nk125x wrote: »
    Or just change the pledge reqs to being a final boss kill only? Like they did with some of the later DLC dungeons.

    That's the best solution

    Then everyone is gonna run past everything to the last boss. I hate that nonsense. I like to kill things. The main pleasure of the game is crushing things and watching the moves and numbers fly...not running past everything to the last boss over and over again like it's your mundane job.
    That is already an thing, skipping in Fungal, who many kills the rat king in wayrest 1?

    Add an change so only last boss is needed if you join group in an dungeon after first pledge boss is dead.
    You have to queue with finder and not get invited to group for this to be true.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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