It takes alot of time I guess to unlock them but my gosh it seems like it takes forever

I read this in a Valley Girl voice

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Ruben wrote: »

I think you need about 7 million AP to max them.

Holy crap that's alot

Takes forever. I should try farming because my Stamina DK really needs vigor. Annoying.

Time to run around with a resto staff.

iirc it's like 1.7ish mil to Magicka Det.

driosketch wrote: »

Ruben wrote: »

I think you need about 7 million AP to max them.

As someone who gets into the top ten percent reward tier regularly, I know 90% of PvP characters don't even earn 10,000 a day. Doing the math, it will take the vast majority of characters over 2 years to rank up to this.

I earn 20-30k a night when I pvp. That's prolly 3-4 hours. I run on enemies buff severs. The underdog bonus is real nice.

10-20k AP an hour is very achievable on an active server.

robkrush wrote: »

driosketch wrote: »

Ruben wrote: »

I think you need about 7 million AP to max them.

As someone who gets into the top ten percent reward tier regularly, I know 90% of PvP characters don't even earn 10,000 a day. Doing the math, it will take the vast majority of characters over 2 years to rank up to this.

I earn 20-30k a night when I pvp. That's prolly 3-4 hours. I run on enemies buff severs. The underdog bonus is real nice.

I do about the same on AS, but the fact is this much, as easy it seems, is still more than what the typical player does. And even this is small change compared to what the 3%ers pull in. If OP wants to unlock everything sooner rather than later, they need to find a pvp group willing to bring them along on an AP farming session.

just about forever or long enough to make you not want to do it twice

found1779 wrote: »

Been playing pvp a lot lately just started really getting into playing it a few weeks ago tho trying to get all assault and support abilities but it seems to be taking forever im about to unlock caltraps now omg why does these lines take forever it seems to get them please do something about this make it to were these abilities can be unlocked easier zenimax any idea how long it normally takes get get them all

Almost every thread this found made was complaining about dk's

So make sure you level the right class before you even think about leveling pvp. Getting a new char to vr16 takes only a week , max 2 weeks.

It took me 6 months of pvp every day to get my first dk to tribune rank 2 and by then i was so fed up with ad i went to dc and had to start again, now two months later i only got 5 million ap, am major rank 2 and i pvp a lot....

As a dk i would suggest playing sorc, they seem a better longtime choice than nightblade, unless you want to spam steel tornado and bombard all day

I tried playing a nightblade on the pts, ( when ic was pre-release so a lot of people were there to pvp with) it was fun but i found out vigor does not heal as much as i thought ( so i dont make nerf vigor threads)
So instead of making complaints threads, create a few chars on pts, they are vr16 and have free best gear
Then when you know what suits you go and think about leveling alliance ranks

You could even ask some of your friends to go on pts with you and duel you , you can be dk and compare stuff

It took me a couple of weeks (playing PVP about 1-2hours per night) to get Purge... but I usually run solo & have no clue when it comes to best ways of gaining AP. I am lucky to get about 2-3k AP per game session... usually more like 1k. I long ago ran out of gold to buy siege & repair stones... so I rely on spending the spendable AP when it comes in.

I got 20 repair stones for the last "campaign rewards' email .. WOOO! I can now repair 20% of ONE WALL! LOL

I really want Vigor as I currently rely on pots to heal & the cooldown is literally killing me :P

found1779 wrote: »

Been playing pvp a lot lately just started really getting into playing it a few weeks ago tho trying to get all assault and support abilities but it seems to be taking forever im about to unlock caltraps now omg why does these lines take forever it seems to get them please do something about this make it to were these abilities can be unlocked easier zenimax any idea how long it normally takes get get them all

Too long

Assuming an average player gains around 50k AP each day.

Vigor is unlocked with 326k AP, this roughly takes 7 days.
Caltrops is unlocked with 809k AP, this roughly takes 16 days.
Prox Det is unlocked with 1624k AP, this roughly takes 33 days (4,7 weeks).
Assault/Support rank 10 (Alliance War rank 24) is unlocked with 6918k AP, this roughly takes 138 days (19,7 weeks).

You can find the Alliance War ranks and required AP here

Depends how much you PvP. If you have loads of gold you can run around repairing keeps.
Failing that, find a zerg and spam your mutagen while running around solo. That will net you a lot of AP.

Doing the above will generate about 50 - 100k AP in about 3 - 4 hours PvPing.

Took me 3 days to get vigor. Caltraps will take a week and magicka det probably 2 more weeks after that.

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

driosketch wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Assuming an average player gains less than 10k AP each day.

Vigor is unlocked with 326k AP, this roughly takes over a month.
Caltrops is unlocked with 809k AP, this roughly takes 3 months.
Prox Det is unlocked with 1624k AP, this roughly takes probably half a year.
Assault/Support rank 10 (Alliance War rank 24) is unlocked with 6918k AP, this roughly takes 2 years.

You can find the Alliance War ranks and required AP here

FTFY

I know it's hard for some to believe, but that is where the typical player who plays at least semi regularly in PvP is at. Time (hours per day), dedication, and a good group will all speed this up, but a 10k per day average is a more realistic base line having followed the score boards the past few months on the most active campaign.

The AP gains will be increased significantly for solo players/small groups the upcoming update.

That should speed up the process of unlocking alliance wars skills for most players.

Maybe, but that also isn't really the typical playstyle of most players. Most players are probably 1 of 30 pugs fighting wherever the map indicates a fight is happening.