[BUG] Blazing Shield not granting Aedric Spear passives

KhaN_BE

Since TG I noticed a significant decrease in block mitigation of physical damage. Block mitigation of spell damage did not change. Before the patch block mitigation for spell and physical damage were the same. Is this change or a bug?

EDIT: changed the title to reflect our findings. Seems Blazing Shield is not granting the Aedric Spear passives which resulted in a loss of 7% block mitigation against melee attacks.

Asayre

Can you provide more details so that others can reproduce your bug?

dodgehopper_ESO

If you're referring to PVP maybe it is related to the changes in champion system? Just a guess here.

KhaN_BE

I tested this in Whrotgar against a mammoth (for physical damage) and Riekr Tempest (for spell damage). I calculated block mitigation as follows: [block mitigation]=([damage unblocked]-[damage blocked])/[damage unblocked]. This might not be the correct formula, but it can be used for comparison.

On my build (see below), before the patch blocking mitigated about 77% of both spell and physical damage. After the patch block only mitigates about 70% of physical damage, while the block mitigation for spell damage remained the same.

I run a Templar v16 tank, with 5 x Footmans (heavy), 5 x Seducers (1 light, 1 medium & 1 heavy) & 2 x Engine Guardian (heavy). I run sword & shield on both bars and have defensive stance slotted on both bars.

Asayre

I tried my Templar tank out at the Mammoths in Wrothgar and didn't notice anything peculiar about block mitigation.

So I'm blocking 60% of the damage which is right as base blocking is 50% and an additional 20% from Sword and Board makes it 60%.

Do you have an Aedric Spear ability slotted? If you don't then 70% is reasonable 50% base and an additional 20% from Sword and Board, 12% from Footmans, 8% from Defensive Stance. An Aedric Spear says it increases by 15% but really it is 14% so maybe that is where your 7% is going?

KhaN_BE

@Asayre thanks for your reply. I do have an Aedric Spear ability slotted. Blazing Shield on my front bar and Puncturing Sweep on my back bar.

I will do some more testing tonight and get back with the results.

KhaN_BE

I did some additional tests and it is Blazing Shield that doesn't grant the 15% it is supposed to grant. On my back bar I get the expected the results on my front bar not.

In the past I did not notice this as I had Empowering Sweep slotted as ultimate. I run Aggressive War Horn now. Slotting Empowering Sweep again on my front bar and the results are back to what they were before.

It is definitely a bug. It is only unclear whether it's an old one or a new one.

@ZOS_GinaBruno is this a known issue?

Asayre

Very interesting! It seems that Blazing Shield is not being recognised as an Aedric Spear ability since it is also not granting the Piercing Spear passive as reported by @Erraln (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2762809/#Comment_2762809)

ZOS_KNowak

Thanks for the excellent bug details in this thread (and the linked thread from the PTS Forums). We've identified a problem with Blazing Shield not contributing to the Spear Wall and Piercing Spear passives and hope to have this corrected in the next incremental patch.

With this change, we also identified a bug with the Piercing Spear passive sometimes not applying to your character after you relogged or zoned into a new area, and should have that fixed in the same incremental patch.

If you see any more issues with Aedric Spear passive abilities after these fixes, be sure to reply with any new information (videos, logs, etc.) and we'll take another look.

Zheg

ZOS_KNowak wrote: »

Thanks for the excellent bug details in this thread (and the linked thread from the PTS Forums). We've identified a problem with Blazing Shield not contributing to the Spear Wall and Piercing Spear passives and hope to have this corrected in the next incremental patch.

With this change, we also identified a bug with the Piercing Spear passive sometimes not applying to your character after you relogged or zoned into a new area, and should have that fixed in the same incremental patch.

If you see any more issues with Aedric Spear passive abilities after these fixes, be sure to reply with any new information (videos, logs, etc.) and we'll take another look.

Can you also identify the bug causing blazing shield's shield to be so low that it doesn't even warrant a spot on a templar's bar? And could we get that fixed in the next incremental patch too? Thx.

Minno

Zheg wrote: »

ZOS_KNowak wrote: »

Thanks for the excellent bug details in this thread (and the linked thread from the PTS Forums). We've identified a problem with Blazing Shield not contributing to the Spear Wall and Piercing Spear passives and hope to have this corrected in the next incremental patch.

With this change, we also identified a bug with the Piercing Spear passive sometimes not applying to your character after you relogged or zoned into a new area, and should have that fixed in the same incremental patch.

If you see any more issues with Aedric Spear passive abilities after these fixes, be sure to reply with any new information (videos, logs, etc.) and we'll take another look.

Can you also identify the bug causing blazing shield's shield to be so low that it doesn't even warrant a spot on a templar's bar? And could we get that fixed in the next incremental patch too? Thx.

Dude, ease up. This isn't the thread to do this.

Kaliki

Minno wrote: »

Dude, ease up. This isn't the thread to do this.

But maybe while they are at it...

Zheg

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

ZOS_KNowak wrote: »

Thanks for the excellent bug details in this thread (and the linked thread from the PTS Forums). We've identified a problem with Blazing Shield not contributing to the Spear Wall and Piercing Spear passives and hope to have this corrected in the next incremental patch.

With this change, we also identified a bug with the Piercing Spear passive sometimes not applying to your character after you relogged or zoned into a new area, and should have that fixed in the same incremental patch.

If you see any more issues with Aedric Spear passive abilities after these fixes, be sure to reply with any new information (videos, logs, etc.) and we'll take another look.

Can you also identify the bug causing blazing shield's shield to be so low that it doesn't even warrant a spot on a templar's bar? And could we get that fixed in the next incremental patch too? Thx.

Dude, ease up. This isn't the thread to do this.

Meh, I don't really see the point in fixing a bug for a skill that no one uses when other bugs/fixes could be prioritized. They could fix toppling charge instead, or maybe realize that the new morph of eclipse they added is made less useful by one of our passives increasing the duration of the skill. In most games, saying stuff like this needs to be an "either or" situation is false, but when it comes to the speed with which ESO fixes things...

Besides, I've reached the 'no effs given' stage. I'm literally only logging in to play with the people that I'll be moving to CU with in a few weeks, might as well be in grumpy mode 24/7 when it comes to the fruits of the combat team, because at this point, why the eff not?

Minno

Zheg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

ZOS_KNowak wrote: »

Thanks for the excellent bug details in this thread (and the linked thread from the PTS Forums). We've identified a problem with Blazing Shield not contributing to the Spear Wall and Piercing Spear passives and hope to have this corrected in the next incremental patch.

With this change, we also identified a bug with the Piercing Spear passive sometimes not applying to your character after you relogged or zoned into a new area, and should have that fixed in the same incremental patch.

If you see any more issues with Aedric Spear passive abilities after these fixes, be sure to reply with any new information (videos, logs, etc.) and we'll take another look.

Can you also identify the bug causing blazing shield's shield to be so low that it doesn't even warrant a spot on a templar's bar? And could we get that fixed in the next incremental patch too? Thx.

Dude, ease up. This isn't the thread to do this.

Meh, I don't really see the point in fixing a bug for a skill that no one uses when other bugs/fixes could be prioritized. They could fix toppling charge instead, or maybe realize that the new morph of eclipse they added is made less useful by one of our passives increasing the duration of the skill. In most games, saying stuff like this needs to be an "either or" situation is false, but when it comes to the speed with which ESO fixes things...

Besides, I've reached the 'no effs given' stage. I'm literally only logging in to play with the people that I'll be moving to CU with in a few weeks, might as well be in grumpy mode 24/7 when it comes to the fruits of the combat team, because at this point, why the eff not?

Because it's not worth the stress and time to type, especially in a thread dedicated to blazing shield not proc most of the spear passives.

The overall anger is mutual though.

KhaN_BE

ZOS_KNowak wrote: »

Thanks for the excellent bug details in this thread (and the linked thread from the PTS Forums). We've identified a problem with Blazing Shield not contributing to the Spear Wall and Piercing Spear passives and hope to have this corrected in the next incremental patch.

With this change, we also identified a bug with the Piercing Spear passive sometimes not applying to your character after you relogged or zoned into a new area, and should have that fixed in the same incremental patch.

Thanks for the reply. I am glad to hear this will be fixed.