[Bugged Item Set] Scathing Mage

Nifty2g

@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel



This was a widely anticipated set for the longest time in the game, currently it is bugged and has been overlooked for far too long. The tooltip is not acting correctly, this does not proc from Damage over Time effects nor does it proc from Channeled Abilities it only procs from the initial hit, this is not stated at all in the tooltip and I believe it is not meant to work like this, it also seems that this has an internal cooldown placed on it stopping multiple proc chances.

Honestly this is one of the strongest sets within the game and was farmed for months only to lead to disappointment I think ZOS you should adjust this set and fix it up, why make an incredibly strong set like this but leave it with a <40% proc chance.

There is also inconsistencies comparing Scathing Mage to Spell Power Cure




Since the latest update Spell Power Cure was buffed to have a 10 second lasting effect but Scathing Mage was left at 6 seconds and no changes were made. Spell Power Cure also does not have an ICD and it shouldn't have one.

Can we please get this set looked at and changed accordingly for Thieves Guild update? If the Tooltip was incorrect and it only procs from the initial hit can we adjust the proc rate to 30-40% to bring it up to other sets to make it compare. It's incredibly useless to run this set which is seemingly great but very bad.

Wollust

Willows path has been buggend since IC. Loads of people use it. Still not fixed.

Don't have much hope for this to be fixed anytime soon then (if your results are true).

Bashev

I doubt that it is bugged, just the tooltip is unclear. The logic is similar to Ravager procs. Only initial hit can proc it and there is a cooldown.

Nifty2g

Bashev wrote: »

I doubt that it is bugged, just the tooltip is unclear. The logic is similar to Ravager procs. Only initial hit can proc it and there is a cooldown.

It's bugged in the sense it's not acting the way the tooltip says.

Daveheart

On a stamplar, you can have very high uptime on Ravager. If I'm jabbing for AoE rather than steal tornado, it's almost always up.

Leon119

If you do the math you come to the conclusion that julianos/TBS are better options than this
So no its not "one of the strongest sets in the game"
Also im pretty sure its working as intended due to other sets acting similarly.
Spell power cure doesnt have an ICD because if so it would be useless ( using it only on one person defeats the group buffing role it has )
Scathing mage however is self buff set so if it didnt it would be same as julianos but with 200 spell dmg extra. Hardly balanced or unique...

Nifty2g

Leon119 wrote: »

If you do the math you come to the conclusion that julianos/TBS are better options than this
So no its not "one of the strongest sets in the game"

If this set would have 60% uptime it would be stronger than Julianos, I've done the math. Based on it's tooltip it should be stronger as there is no mention of it not procing off DoTs or Channeled abilities but since however there is it knocks this proc time down to <40%.

Essentially it either needs to have a higher proc chance or they need to fix it so it procs off all DoTs and Channeled abilities.

So yes, it is one of the strongest sets in the game. It destroys Julianos if it were >60% uptime. And it should as it is a dropped set.

Scathing mage however is self buff set so if it didnt it would be same as julianos but with 200 spell dmg extra. Hardly balanced or unique...

Spell Power Cure is a self buffed set you realise? It procs from Puncturing Sweep for the Templar and Rapid Regen on yourself etc. Doing Maelstrom with it or any 4man content will make you extremely powerful. Spell Power Cure is also stronger than Julianos.

Crafted sets should not be stronger than dropped end game sets.

aLi3nZ

Just farm Molag kena

phillyproduct

I also recently just deleted this set its terrible hope they buff it, all the sets from prison kinda suck unless your using 4 partial buffs

EgoRush

I agree that it's more likely the tool tip is just written badly - they more often "clarify" tool tips than make changes to things like this. But I also agree that if it is acting as intended then the proc chance needs to be higher.

EgoRush

I agree that it's more likely the tool tip is just written badly - they more often "clarify" tool tips than make changes to things like this. But I also agree that if it is acting as intended then the proc chance needs to be improved.

elium85

@Nifty2g Sorry to Necro this but I want it fixed as well! What's the ICD for Scathing Mage right now?

Nifty2g

elium85 wrote: »

@Nifty2g Sorry to Necro this but I want it fixed as well! What's the ICD for Scathing Mage right now?

Last I heard it was around 8 seconds I think?

elium85

Huh, that kinda sucks. With the low proc chance, one would think the ICD should be < 3 seconds...

Xjcon

Farmed ICP steadily for a few weeks to get this set completed and was very disappointed.

Put this on ran some tests put it away and crafted TBS till Julianos was released. It's to bad one of the hardest sets to put together is lacking behind a set that can be crafted with very little effort.

hayaschwarz

The Scathing mage set is one of the hardest sets to collect in the game. And as of the endgame content such sets are very appreciated. But with the current state how the set is bugged, julianos proves to be way better set than Scathing mage. On the other hand, I don’t see any point why briarheart should proc on DoTs while scathing can’t:





Back when IC patch was available on PTS, the scathing mage was the first Set I wanted to test for DPS, and I remember it working perfectly with DoTs. But after the patch hit live, and as farming the set was obviously a nightmare, people were only able to obtain the full set after couple of months. I can assure everyone, that the scathing mage set was one of the biggest disappointments of my life!

Now on PTS I tested the Set all over again, to find out after two patches the set is still bugged! To determine if the Set procs with the initial damage of abilities or the DoTs, I tested it with volley, because volley doesn’t have initial individual damage. In the screenshot you can see that the set procs from DoTs, but only the initial one!



@ZOS please attend to this broken Set, as farming it isn’t easy, and magicka builds would appreciate having the set, especially after farming ICP for months to get it!

Nifty2g

I'm not sure who to tag but I'd really like this to be brought to attention
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Finn

hedna123b14_ESO

Leon119 wrote: »

If you do the math you come to the conclusion that julianos/TBS are better options than this
So no its not "one of the strongest sets in the game"
Also im pretty sure its working as intended due to other sets acting similarly.
Spell power cure doesnt have an ICD because if so it would be useless ( using it only on one person defeats the group buffing role it has )
Scathing mage however is self buff set so if it didnt it would be same as julianos but with 200 spell dmg extra. Hardly balanced or unique...

For a set that is difficult to acquire and that has to be farmed I can't imagine that it was intended to be less effective than a crafted set. I am fairly certain it was a programming mistake and they need to fix it in order to make it a worthwhile thing to run that content.

hayaschwarz

Leon119 wrote: »

If you do the math you come to the conclusion that julianos/TBS are better options than this
So no its not "one of the strongest sets in the game"
Also im pretty sure its working as intended due to other sets acting similarly.
Spell power cure doesnt have an ICD because if so it would be useless ( using it only on one person defeats the group buffing role it has )
Scathing mage however is self buff set so if it didnt it would be same as julianos but with 200 spell dmg extra. Hardly balanced or unique...

Acording to you, Briarheart Set should be also weaker than Hunding’s, as scathing is weaker than julianos! While briarheart doesn’t only has jewelry, it also procs on DoTs. Furthermore, the set worked properly with DoTs while it was on PTS before IC release!
Besides, if the scathing mage is in this state, there is no single Set worthwhile in the IC prison, and doing the prison considering its length and difficulty would be pointless!

skoomatrait

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Finn
UP UP UP UP

elium85

Agreed! @Wrobel

Joy_Division

If there is one thing you can count on this game, the "reward" set that you have to farm that you think is really good either has a hidden cooldown with it, is bugged, will be nerfed, or something else to make you regret wasting all those dungeon/trial runs.

Just use crafted gear and save yourself the headache and frustration.

Nighn_9

Ill just show this off for a second xD. V16 version of sai sahans sword. That's right... i didnt use ad or ep zones to level to max lol its more less a grinding trophy.

player_klaus

after nearly half a year, im one piece away from a full divine spc. the grind is from hell. but im quite optimistic i will complete it one day.

about the scathing mage set ...i still need 3 pieces.

too bad there are not many players left to run ICP anymore. my guildies/friends are very dissapointed from the dropchance, the sets performance and hard to motivate for a ICP-run due to massive and fruitless overfarming.

well, everbody and his mother just crafted juilanos and goes ICP only once a week.

...thank you, julianos!


two weeks ago i said to myself: "let it go!" ...and crafted julianos too.

at least we had a good time.

player_klaus

hayaschwarz wrote: »

no single Set worthwhile in the IC prison, and doing the prison considering its length and difficulty would be pointless!

this is just unbelivable! ZOS should do something ASAP

Nifty2g

player_klaus wrote: »

hayaschwarz wrote: »

no single Set worthwhile in the IC prison, and doing the prison considering its length and difficulty would be pointless!

this is just unbelivable! ZOS should do something ASAP

They have a vision
All crafted sets better than dropped sets

Deal with it

Xjcon

Nifty2g wrote: »

player_klaus wrote: »

hayaschwarz wrote: »

no single Set worthwhile in the IC prison, and doing the prison considering its length and difficulty would be pointless!

this is just unbelivable! ZOS should do something ASAP

They have a vision
All crafted sets better than dropped sets

Deal with it

Wonder if they will give us a sneak peak at the crafting gear for DB so we can determine if farming MoL gear is going to be similar to farming IC gear.

deathscythe

+ 1 dropped sets should atleast perform at the same level as crafted or higher.

If we dungeon farm for loot and the loot is already obsolete, what's the point?

there needs to be a sense of Progression from the dropped sets in the game.

Gonza

Almost all the sets are the same or equivalent. Imagine for a second that the icp and wgt sets are better than crafted sets, the people will cry about p2w.

Sets are just different. Hundings and Julianos are standard dps sets, but you can have variations of that (briarheart or scathing mage). Differents sets = Differents playstyles.

Xjcon

Gonza wrote: »

Almost all the sets are the same or equivalent. Imagine for a second that the icp and wgt sets are better than crafted sets, the people will cry about p2w.

Sets are just different. Hundings and Julianos are standard dps sets, but you can have variations of that (briarheart or scathing mage). Differents sets = Differents playstyles.

Wgt already has the best monster set for dps and one of the most sought after sets for healers. There is no reason to lose DPS by putting on a set someone specificly farmed in a DLC dungeon. It should be a slight increase at least when comparing a set that takes months to complete over a set that takes half an hour to make.

hayaschwarz

DPS Test comparison, julianos obviously winns every time:

Julianos:


Scathing:


I don't know which logic makes a crafted Set more worthwhile than very hard obtainable set... Obviously with the prison not dropping any good Sets incl. Scathing, no one is is interested in visiting the prison except for the undaunted daily!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Finn please fix this!