so... templars and sorcerers got nerfed because of performance?

dsalter

Adjusted several abilities to improve overall game performance. Affected abilities will now tick less frequently, but deal more damage such that overall damage should remain constant. The affected abilities include:
Blazing Spear
Consuming Darkness and its morphs
Eruption
Lightning Splash and its morphs
Necrotic Orb and its morphs
Path of Darkness and its morphs
Radiant Destruction and its morphs

basically Radiant Destruction, Blazing Spear and Lightning Splash is what i'm refering to, less ticks means less passive procs meaning less overall damage. not only that but those poor templars got hit by it twice as hard.

MrDerrikk

But Eruption

dsalter

MrDerrikk wrote: »

But Eruption

tbh i see eruption as a buff since DK's passives boosts the actual damage and not procs from said damage

MrDerrikk

I was looking forward to using Skoria with my DK, so not really a buff sadly I guess I'll just have to grind some Nerien'eth then...

Islyn

Argh. GDit. I am so sick of this sort of snip. I swear.

LOL *Should.*

notimetocare

I have a bigger problem with the NB changes. Effectively reduced my tanks regen by half.

Nifty2g

they fixed RD's crit issue

dday3six

What is the difference in the duration between ticks? Are we talking every 1 second instead of 0.5 seconds?

The proc rates for the passives could always be increased to compensate if needed. Honestly if it improves game performance, and the damage is adjusted, as well as the prox rates if needed. I don't see it as an issue.

Islyn

Nifty2g wrote: »

they fixed RD's crit issue

Well there's that I guess.

Nifty2g

dday3six wrote: »

What is the difference in the duration between ticks? Are we talking every 1 second instead of 0.5 seconds?

The proc rates for the passives could always be increased to compensate if needed. Honestly if it improves game performance, and the damage is adjusted, as well as the prox rates if needed. I don't see it as an issue.

It's not an issue, my blazing spear pulse and RD never did that much damage for 1 cast, well RD was technically 2 casts

James-Wayne

My Blazing Spear tool tip shows more but my Radiant Oppression shows MUCH less, is this just visual and in practice it still performs the same amount of damage? It's very worrying if its not!

Nifty2g

James-Wayne wrote: »

My Blazing Spear tool tip shows more but my Radiant Oppression shows MUCH less, is this just visual and in practice it still performs the same amount of damage? It's very worrying if its not!

Not sure what they did to RD but it seems as if it's working as it was intended to, the first hit is always a crit dealing 100% damage

another one for proof




finalllllllly

danno8

My Blazing Spear in practice is still ticking every second, but the damage is doubled, so I think they screwed that one up because it was never .5 second ticks (I verified this on the PTS). So they actually (accidentally no doubt) have buffed Blazing Spear.

RD is ticking once per second instead of once every .5 seconds, but I haven't tested the damage part to see if it is overall the same or not. If the ticks are actually larger, there are times in PvP at least where that can be advantageous, of course it will proc less "on damage" type bonuses.

James-Wayne wrote: »

My Blazing Spear tool tip shows more but my Radiant Oppression shows MUCH less, is this just visual and in practice it still performs the same amount of damage? It's very worrying if its not!

Apparently the toolitps for the DK skill that got changes are wacked out, but the actual damage is correct. This is why when you test, you have to test using damage addons and not tooltips.

Dracane

Blazing spear and lightning splash are essential skills for Templar and Sorcerer DPS. This will hit especially Sorcerers pretty hard. Less crits with lightning splash> less overall damage, less concussion procs and of course less disintegration. And for Templars, Burning light of course O.o

As for radiant destruction, this COULD be a buff. My radiant destruction can crit for over 30k if it crits. Meaning it should now crit for like 60k, providing me with more burst. This could actually help in pvp. But we'll see.... Blazing spear and lightning splash will be pretty poor now.

Akinos

I almost spit out my drink when I saw this radiant tick, lol.

Keep in mind the target was around 2% hp or so when I hit them with that radiant. Looks like radiant did get a nerf?

Dracane

Akinos wrote: »

I almost spit out my drink when I saw this radiant tick, lol.

Keep in mind the target was around 2% hp or so when I hit them with that radiant. Looks like radiant did get a nerf?

Slutress-Assassin was a player or an NPC ?

James-Wayne

Dracane wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

I almost spit out my drink when I saw this radiant tick, lol.

Keep in mind the target was around 2% hp or so when I hit them with that radiant. Looks like radiant did get a nerf?

Slutress-Assassin was a player or an NPC ?

Dracane wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

I almost spit out my drink when I saw this radiant tick, lol.

Keep in mind the target was around 2% hp or so when I hit them with that radiant. Looks like radiant did get a nerf?

Slutress-Assassin was a player or an NPC ?

Seeing they got Alliance points I'd say it was PvP

Akinos

Dracane wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

I almost spit out my drink when I saw this radiant tick, lol.

Keep in mind the target was around 2% hp or so when I hit them with that radiant. Looks like radiant did get a nerf?

Slutress-Assassin was a player or an NPC ?

VR16 nightblade, so yeah, a player.

dsalter

Akinos wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

I almost spit out my drink when I saw this radiant tick, lol.

Keep in mind the target was around 2% hp or so when I hit them with that radiant. Looks like radiant did get a nerf?

Slutress-Assassin was a player or an NPC ?

VR16 nightblade, so yeah, a player.

i'm more concerned they were allowed such a name.

Islyn

dsalter wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

I almost spit out my drink when I saw this radiant tick, lol.

Keep in mind the target was around 2% hp or so when I hit them with that radiant. Looks like radiant did get a nerf?

Slutress-Assassin was a player or an NPC ?

VR16 nightblade, so yeah, a player.

i'm more concerned they were allowed such a name.

Meh M rated game - do you really care? I had one called Ivannah Humphalot on NA

Nebthet78

I can't believe they did this... and the worst part is, I am having more performance issues NOW than prior to the patch.. I am now going from 44-60FPS to 12-23FPS when doing World Boss fights and the only way to fix it is to close the game and restart it. Reloadui doesn't work. I have a 4GB Video Card with all updated drivers that is less than a month old.

I think it is time to send whomever is doing the coding for abilities back to school to learn how to do it right without breaking the rest of the game and nerfing what doesn't need to be touched.

I am tired of having my advancement, progression and usefulness taken away!!!

DisgracefulMind

You are all freaking out for really no reason. All the dps is FINE for the classes. Calm it lol.

cazlonb16_ESO

Dracane wrote: »

As for radiant destruction, this COULD be a buff. My radiant destruction can crit for over 30k if it crits. Meaning it should now crit for like 60k, providing me with more burst. This could actually help in pvp.

If it does, rest assured it will be hotfixed. Not that it would matter, after the Orsinium patch the Jezuz Beam spammage has died down almost completely anyway.

lathbury

yeah templars and sorcs got nerfed just them oh wait I see 2 nightblade and a dk ability on that list.

aidenmoore

So I noticed that my Refreshing Path heals like a truck now. Before patch, my Refreshing Path heals around 500+ per 0.5 second. And after the patch, it heals 5000+ per 1 second. Basically, I just put down my Refreshing Path and never to worry anything anymore.

Septimus_Magna

Having skills that tick twice per second has its benefits, for example when you use elemental drain, if you want to proc the disintegration passive, if you want resources back with Siphon Attacks etc.

Troneon

Are you ******* serious, templar nerfed....AGAIN? It's already one of the weakest in solo arena and pvp....but im sure sorcs and nb's still OP as hell...

I am so done.

Long loading screens, broken skills, bugs, crap fps performance and now more nerfs....

Might be time to try another game.

lathbury

Troneon wrote: »

Are you ******* serious, templar nerfed....AGAIN? It's already one of the weakest in solo arena and pvp....but im sure sorcs and nb's still OP as hell...

I am so done.

Long loading screens, broken skills, bugs, crap fps performance and now more nerfs....

Might be time to try another game.

there are more nb skills on that list then any other class NVM how this will play out with siphoning strikes.

Oh_Skrivva

I would like to know how the change in ticks help the stability of the game. If it does, why not change ticks on all dot skills then. Also, it took them this long to realize that changing ticks would help stability. Wasn't there a ridiculously long maintenance where they supposedly were upgrading their servers and equipment? I guess it wasn't enough to fix the problem and this dot tick change was all we needed.....

dsalter

lathbury wrote: »

yeah templars and sorcs got nerfed just them oh wait I see 2 nightblade and a dk ability on that list.

but they buffed the damage of them. problem is Templar and Sorc rely on the AMOUNT of ticks for their passives which are... you know... part of the class damage source...

Nebthet78

Oh_Skrivva wrote: »

I would like to know how the change in ticks help the stability of the game. If it does, why not change ticks on all dot skills then. Also, it took them this long to realize that changing ticks would help stability. Wasn't there a ridiculously long maintenance where they supposedly were upgrading their servers and equipment? I guess it wasn't enough to fix the problem and this dot tick change was all we needed.....

I think they are just using the "for performance improvements" as an excuse to nerf abilities thinking players will be okay with it.