Mist Form completely destroyed because of the Alliance Indicators option

Kammakazi

When you have this set to Enemy, or all, you can SEE the enemy's icon over their head when they enter Mist Form.

Previously, the enemy could not be seen (you have to look carefully at the clouds/mist to see them) and it was used to perform jukes when being chased.

Now you can be attacked in Mist Form. I'm talking about skills like Teleport Strike, Critical Charge, Shield Charge, Focused Charge, etc.

Please fix.

Also, why is the Dark Conversion skill in the Sorcerer Dark Magic line only 1 second? Bugged?

Toast_STS

Dark exchange was changed and is in the patch notes.

Nothing on Mist Form in the patch notes though. I'm hoping this is a bug or I will be removing my vampirism.

MmmmTofu

I believe the dark conversion is changed on purpose, as the skill does say 1 second duration on the description, we just need to cast it multiple times if we need to

Sharee

Kammakazi wrote: »

Now you can be attacked in Mist Form. I'm talking about skills like Teleport Strike, Critical Charge, Shield Charge, Focused Charge, etc.

Please fix.

Does mistform tooltip say 'you become immune to single-target abilities'?

Molag_Crow

You've got to be kidding me....

No wonder I've been getting chased around every corner, up every platform and over every wall and completely wrecked by melee attacks while in Mist Form

If this is here to stay, that's it -- I'm getting rid of Vampirism.

Scyantific

The Dark Exchange change wouldn't be so bad if the returns weren't go abysmal and didn't kick in until the very end.

Suru

You have ALWAYS been able to attack mistform, You just needed to tab target. Now its easier and better.

lolo_01b16_ESO

Are you sure you are talking about mistform and not about clouding swarm (the ultimate). Since IC was launched I got a lot of hits by single target skills while using clouding swarm even though I should be invisable while using it.

BaldusMageezack

Well you always should have been able to be attacked by single target abilities in mist form. It gives invunerability to control magic and healing not single target dps

Molag_Crow

Suru wrote: »

You have ALWAYS been able to attack mistform, You just needed to tab target. Now its easier and better.

It weren't on console. You could attack somebody in mist form with AOE/Close melee attacks like Jabs, but yeah. I guess that's why it has changed then, to be fair with PC's version of mist form. Still, that makes the skill pretty much useless now because the time you spend in mist form taking 75% less damage, you'd be better off healing/absorbing through it anyway... even though it does make you immune to control effects, hm.

I may just have to always use Retreating Maneuver's with it, then.

Valen_Byte

I have always been able to attack people in mist form. Im a DK, all I have ever had to do to a mist vamp is clamp them down with talons. No bug here...nothing changed as far as being able to attack someone in mist form...you have always been able to.

GreenSoup2HoT

People gotta realize that mist form was bugged. The only way to hit someone in mist form in update 1.6 was to use AOE's or throw light/heavy attacks at them.

At least now you can still damage them, it's still 75% less damage. Mist form is a O *** button when you see somthing big coming, like a sweeper AOE or an ultimate.

Molag_Crow

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

People gotta realize that mist form was bugged. The only way to hit someone in mist form in update 1.6 was to use AOE's or throw light/heavy attacks at them.

At least now you can still damage them, it's still 75% less damage. Mist form is a O *** button when you see somthing big coming, like a sweeper AOE or an ultimate.

Valen_Byte wrote: »

I have always been able to attack people in mist form. Im a DK, all I have ever had to do to a mist vamp is clamp them down with talons. No bug here...nothing changed as far as being able to attack someone in mist form...you have always been able to.

Yeah, true.... oh well. I'll stick with it and combine Rapid Maneuver with it if I need to escape with stones.

Kammakazi

Console by the way. You couldn't hit a Mist Form target unless:

Your skill was an AoE (Jabs, Talons, Caltrops, etc) that doesn't require sight of the target (skills like Poison Injection, Crushing Shock, Meteor, Soul Assault, etc)

Kammakazi

Valen_Byte wrote: »

I have always been able to attack people in mist form. Im a DK, all I have ever had to do to a mist vamp is clamp them down with talons. No bug here...nothing changed as far as being able to attack someone in mist form...you have always been able to.

That's cause Talons is not a single target ability. It'll hit regardless if the person can be seen, Mist Formed, or cloaked.

Toast_STS

On xbox, without the ability to tab target, the change to mist form is a heavy nerf with no mention of the changes in any patch notes. Kind of annoying but it was a pretty strong skill.

Molag_Crow

tony.augeb14_ESO wrote: »

On xbox, without the ability to tab target, the change to mist form is a heavy nerf with no mention of the changes in any patch notes. Kind of annoying but it was a pretty strong skill.

Indeed

HungryHobo

You could not single target them before the patch without the use of tab targeting. It is actually fixed now. If they could just remove the symbol, but keep the ability to attack without tab targeting I would be fine with it.

leepalmer95

tony.augeb14_ESO wrote: »

On xbox, without the ability to tab target, the change to mist form is a heavy nerf with no mention of the changes in any patch notes. Kind of annoying but it was a pretty strong skill.

It's not a nerf.

Mist form is a great skill for when someone uses meteor or something.

FireCowCommando

leepalmer95 wrote: »

tony.augeb14_ESO wrote: »

On xbox, without the ability to tab target, the change to mist form is a heavy nerf with no mention of the changes in any patch notes. Kind of annoying but it was a pretty strong skill.

It's not a nerf.

Mist form is a great skill for when someone uses meteor or something.

It was a nerf, you are definately wrong about that one. Targeting you can say yeah, that needed changed. But the alliance war indicator too? All the ability does against a group when your solo is help you spoon feed them alliance points. Templar got much more boring with IC since my survival is completely at the whim of the larger group, with no abilities to escape anymore.

Molag_Crow

FireCowCommando wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

tony.augeb14_ESO wrote: »

On xbox, without the ability to tab target, the change to mist form is a heavy nerf with no mention of the changes in any patch notes. Kind of annoying but it was a pretty strong skill.

It's not a nerf.

Mist form is a great skill for when someone uses meteor or something.

It was a nerf, you are definately wrong about that one. Targeting you can say yeah, that needed changed. But the alliance war indicator too? All the ability does against a group when your solo is help you spoon feed them alliance points. Templar got much more boring with IC since my survival is completely at the whim of the larger group, with no abilities to escape anymore.

True, but like I said - Use Retreating Maneuvers and don't attack anything while spamming mist form to get away to safety.

HungryHobo

CrowsDescend wrote: »

FireCowCommando wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

tony.augeb14_ESO wrote: »

On xbox, without the ability to tab target, the change to mist form is a heavy nerf with no mention of the changes in any patch notes. Kind of annoying but it was a pretty strong skill.

It's not a nerf.

Mist form is a great skill for when someone uses meteor or something.

It was a nerf, you are definately wrong about that one. Targeting you can say yeah, that needed changed. But the alliance war indicator too? All the ability does against a group when your solo is help you spoon feed them alliance points. Templar got much more boring with IC since my survival is completely at the whim of the larger group, with no abilities to escape anymore.

True, but like I said - Use Retreating Maneuvers and don't attack anything while spamming mist form to get away to safety.

You dont even need mist form. I use Retreating Maneuvers as a stam nb and I get away more with RM than I do cloak. Just round the nearest 2-3 corners and then run.

leepalmer95

HungryHobo wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

FireCowCommando wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

tony.augeb14_ESO wrote: »

On xbox, without the ability to tab target, the change to mist form is a heavy nerf with no mention of the changes in any patch notes. Kind of annoying but it was a pretty strong skill.

It's not a nerf.

Mist form is a great skill for when someone uses meteor or something.

It was a nerf, you are definately wrong about that one. Targeting you can say yeah, that needed changed. But the alliance war indicator too? All the ability does against a group when your solo is help you spoon feed them alliance points. Templar got much more boring with IC since my survival is completely at the whim of the larger group, with no abilities to escape anymore.

True, but like I said - Use Retreating Maneuvers and don't attack anything while spamming mist form to get away to safety.

You dont even need mist form. I use Retreating Maneuvers as a stam nb and I get away more with RM than I do cloak. Just round the nearest 2-3 corners and then run.

I'm a stam dk i just dodge roll with bow and sprint ^^

Alucardo

I'm a Werewolf. I just change and die

Chrlynsch

With the changes to block it is actually a reaaaaaallly good ability. When your running low on stamina for blocking you can pop a couple mists and stam regen. When you start running low on magic stop and block again... it is really good just need to think outside the xbox... I mean box.

Chrlynsch

Alucardo wrote: »

I'm a Werewolf. I just change and die

That's funny right there.

Swindy

Alucardo wrote: »

I'm a Werewolf. I just change and die

I've never lost to a Vamp whilst in WW form.

However if I don't kill him as WW (or if he has friends), the moment I change back...

Rosveen

I don't get it. Mist Form's description doesn't say it makes you untargettable, only that you take less damage from attacks and are immune to certain effects. People hitting you with a sword isn't one of these effects. Unless I'm missing something, there's no problem to fix.

NDwarf

Prothwata wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

I'm a Werewolf. I just change and die

That's funny right there.

Reminds me, I need to get cured of werewolf aids. No more free stamina regen.

Oh and to OP,. thanks for the tip. I didn't know about that alliance thingy. On console mist form was un-targetable (with a single target ability) as far as I know but I'm a bad PvP player (also bad at pve). Maybe that's why it was added, for console players.

See a vampire player running from zerg goes into mist form. Stealth, Camo Hunter, Grim Focus, Focus Aim, wait for it...watch arrow sail through air and track like a cruise missle, hit mist form and hear that coconut hitting you in the head sound effect that indicates camo hunter went off. Dead vampire. Now teabag *screenshot*

ScruffyWhiskers

In 1.6 you could tab target and still land single target attacks. At least I'm pretty sure you could do that.

I've got no problem with it being targetable, that's what the damage reduction is for. But you should get temporary snare/root immunity and it should just be a ball of mist with no alliance tag. Part of it's effectiveness was to be able to change direction and lose the less observant pursuers.

Keepercraft

Mist form is bugged.
Use ESC and you can attack on mist form.