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Horses and Rapid Maneuver post-IC

Woolenthreads
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I have noticed that after activating "Rapid Maneuver" on a horse there is no increase in the speed. I couldn't find anything about it in the patch notes. I have Rapid Maneuver on all 8 characters and the two characters that had the longest runs from the Writ Boards (in Daggerfall and Davons Watch) don't get as far anymore. From the actual distance travelled before Rapid Maneuver Ends I would guess that the horses are no longer affected by Rapid Maneuver.

Has anyone else noticed this?
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  • MissBizz
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    I did see a thread on this the other day, not sure where it is now. Was going to look for it.. But I'll add my comment here.

    I do not have rapid maneuver but it is often cast on my in Crag while I do writs (thank you random folks), remembering the thread after it was cast on me today, I got on my mount and it was definitely working.

    Have you tried casting it then mounting? Or asking someone else to cast it on you?

    [Edit] found it
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/212704/rapid-maneuver-seems-to-be-broken

    Unfortunately this doesn't help the problem, but at least you know others are experiencing it as well
    Edited by MissBizz on September 4, 2015 11:54PM
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  • ADarklore
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    I have heard that this effects only those who have the riding skill speed increased beyond a certain point. I know on my crafting alt, RM no longer effects him- and I have riding skill up to the max of 60. Yet, today on a newer character that only has riding skill at 40, someone nearby cast RM and it worked on my horse. Now whether it was because it was cast by someone else or because I don't have the riding skill maxed, I'm not sure, I haven't spec'd into RM on that character.
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  • Mojmir
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    I can tell you I have a character with Max speed and rapids,it is not the same speed it was before patch,also when I cast it I get a bug with both rapids and retreating popping off
  • Elephant42
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    I have 3 chars with horse speed at 60 and RM works normally on all 3. My nightblade just hit VR1 but his horse speed is only 41 and RM does NOT work on him while mounted, however it does work when he is on foot.
  • Scyantific
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    I can tell you I have a character with Max speed and rapids,it is not the same speed it was before patch,also when I cast it I get a bug with both rapids and retreating popping off

    Yeah, I have 2 toons with max speed on mounts and it feels much slower than last week.
  • NobleNerd
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    Some of my guild members were reporting to me that RM was not working for them while riding. I have not had time to test this out for myself.

    They got rid of the pvp buffs outside of Cyrodiil, maybe the pvp abilities were effected by the change also.
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  • Woolenthreads
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Have you tried casting it then mounting? Or asking someone else to cast it on you?
    I have done it both ways. I think it's been cast in my low level characters vicinity a couple of times. My two Craglorn based characters can't measure it because I never used it for it's full time there in a run. My <L20 characters all have long runs doing writs where the loss of the effect is noticeably shorter. In Daggerfall riding from the consumables Writ board to the drop-off you used to be able to reach the stairs down to the port before recasting, now, you just reach the pig pen.
    MissBizz wrote: »
    I did go looking for a thread but the forums don't seem to search very well. I looked for Maneuver and I got a lot of discussion on how to fight :)
    NobleNerd wrote: »
    They got rid of the pvp buffs outside of Cyrodiil, maybe the pvp abilities were effected by the change also.
    *sigh* That actually seems like the possible scenario.

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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Anyone figure out what the issue is...meaning is this intended or another IC bug?
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  • Woolenthreads
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    Anyone figure out what the issue is...meaning is this intended or another IC bug?

    Perhaps we'll find out after the maintenance :)
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  • Frimbertrips
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    Yesterday when I played, the RM was working on my 60% speed horse just fine. Could have put on Benny Hill in the background like usual she was busting so much arse. I didnt get to test it today.
  • Rosveen
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    Retreating Maneuver works fine for me. I'm going to check it unmorphed with another character later.

    edit: The unmorphed version doesn't work on horseback. Must be a bug, reported.
    Edited by Rosveen on September 6, 2015 4:26PM
  • fced
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    I have the same problem...
    I just got rapid maneuver (unmorphed), and it don't work on horse if i launch it by myself...
    But it someone in the surrounding launch "rapid maneuver" it work perfectly on horse...
    I can't tell if those peoples have it morphed or not...
  • snackrat
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    fced, I know the patch notes mentioned that they'd fixed a bug regarding Rapid. Specifically, Rank 1 of Rapid Manoeuvre (2-4 and morphs were fine iirc). You shouldn't still be having the issue.
  • terrordactyl1971
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    It works for me on foot, but is broken as soon as I get on a horse (pve anyway)
  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    They changed the math for it. Cant remember the exact details, but essentially you get less bang than before.
  • gard
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    I have noticed that after activating "Rapid Maneuver" on a horse there is no increase in the speed. I couldn't find anything about it in the patch notes. I have Rapid Maneuver on all 8 characters and the two characters that had the longest runs from the Writ Boards (in Daggerfall and Davons Watch) don't get as far anymore. From the actual distance travelled before Rapid Maneuver Ends I would guess that the horses are no longer affected by Rapid Maneuver.

    Has anyone else noticed this?

    Yes. ZOS reported this fixed in a patch, but it still isn't. I've reported this in the PC support forum and via ticket in game.
    I'm not even sure they look at support tickets anymore. I got a response last week from a ticket I created two months ago.
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  • gard
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Have you tried casting it then mounting? Or asking someone else to cast it on you?
    I have done it both ways. I think it's been cast in my low level characters vicinity a couple of times. My two Craglorn based characters can't measure it because I never used it for it's full time there in a run. My <L20 characters all have long runs doing writs where the loss of the effect is noticeably shorter. In Daggerfall riding from the consumables Writ board to the drop-off you used to be able to reach the stairs down to the port before recasting, now, you just reach the pig pen.
    MissBizz wrote: »
    I did go looking for a thread but the forums don't seem to search very well. I looked for Maneuver and I got a lot of discussion on how to fight :)
    NobleNerd wrote: »
    They got rid of the pvp buffs outside of Cyrodiil, maybe the pvp abilities were effected by the change also.
    *sigh* That actually seems like the possible scenario.

    Nope. Still works on foot.
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  • Cherryblossom
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    I think there is an overall issue with speed buffs being applied.

    I've noticed the above where I have overtaken people when Rapid Maneuver is activated even though I can see the buff on them also (on foot I'm not using sprint)

    I have also noticed that sometime Mist Form does not always apply the speed buff either, not found a way to reproduce reliably.

    Not had the issue with Double Take though.
  • Woolenthreads
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    Actually, it's been fixed for me for a week now, when they stated they'd fixed it.
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  • ADarklore
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    Before the 2.1.4 update my crafting character was able to use RM mounted without a problem, after the update RM no longer worked, but after the patch, it is now working once again.
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  • bareheiny
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    I recently ditched RM because it had no apparent impact whilst mounted.

    Last night in Cyrodiil, I was affected by a passing caster (thanks random stranger - I seriously hate trying to get from shard to shard in Cyrodiil....travelling chews up half my playtime) - and Shreddie took off like somebody hit her with a cow prod.

    Sadly I ended up in the middle of a Dominion mill....which translated to a very quick trip to a spawn point :(

    The next skill point I get going to RM....assuming I can figure out if it's bugged or not.
  • Devolus
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    bareheiny wrote: »
    I recently ditched RM because it had no apparent impact whilst mounted.

    Last night in Cyrodiil, I was affected by a passing caster (thanks random stranger - I seriously hate trying to get from shard to shard in Cyrodiil....travelling chews up half my playtime) - and Shreddie took off like somebody hit her with a cow prod.

    Sadly I ended up in the middle of a Dominion mill....which translated to a very quick trip to a spawn point :(

    The next skill point I get going to RM....assuming I can figure out if it's bugged or not.

    Certain ranks of the unmorphed version were not increasing speed on the horses. Which was fixed in a previous patch.
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  • bareheiny
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    Devolus wrote: »
    bareheiny wrote: »
    I recently ditched RM because it had no apparent impact whilst mounted.

    Last night in Cyrodiil, I was affected by a passing caster (thanks random stranger - I seriously hate trying to get from shard to shard in Cyrodiil....travelling chews up half my playtime) - and Shreddie took off like somebody hit her with a cow prod.

    Sadly I ended up in the middle of a Dominion mill....which translated to a very quick trip to a spawn point :(

    The next skill point I get going to RM....assuming I can figure out if it's bugged or not.

    Certain ranks of the unmorphed version were not increasing speed on the horses. Which was fixed in a previous patch.
    Previous being before the IC updated? Because I'm sure that's when I ditched RM (following the mandatory respec).
  • AAN2
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    I've noticed this as well, my V6 char who had charging maneuver prior to the patch gets the speed boost, but my L46 who got it post-patch doesn't get any sort of speed boost while mounted when activating it. Other people's work on me though.

    Kind of annoying, but it's alright because I sprint fast.
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  • Devolus
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    bareheiny wrote: »
    Devolus wrote: »
    bareheiny wrote: »
    I recently ditched RM because it had no apparent impact whilst mounted.

    Last night in Cyrodiil, I was affected by a passing caster (thanks random stranger - I seriously hate trying to get from shard to shard in Cyrodiil....travelling chews up half my playtime) - and Shreddie took off like somebody hit her with a cow prod.

    Sadly I ended up in the middle of a Dominion mill....which translated to a very quick trip to a spawn point :(

    The next skill point I get going to RM....assuming I can figure out if it's bugged or not.

    Certain ranks of the unmorphed version were not increasing speed on the horses. Which was fixed in a previous patch.
    Previous being before the IC updated? Because I'm sure that's when I ditched RM (following the mandatory respec).

    It was fixed after IC was released. Patch 2.1.6
    Rapid Maneuver: Fixed an issue which prevented Rank 1 of this ability from affecting movement speed while you were on your mount.
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    I use a morphed version but the skill itself works fine for me. (PS4 Player here)
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  • bareheiny
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    Devolus wrote: »
    bareheiny wrote: »
    Devolus wrote: »
    bareheiny wrote: »
    I recently ditched RM because it had no apparent impact whilst mounted.

    Last night in Cyrodiil, I was affected by a passing caster (thanks random stranger - I seriously hate trying to get from shard to shard in Cyrodiil....travelling chews up half my playtime) - and Shreddie took off like somebody hit her with a cow prod.

    Sadly I ended up in the middle of a Dominion mill....which translated to a very quick trip to a spawn point :(

    The next skill point I get going to RM....assuming I can figure out if it's bugged or not.

    Certain ranks of the unmorphed version were not increasing speed on the horses. Which was fixed in a previous patch.
    Previous being before the IC updated? Because I'm sure that's when I ditched RM (following the mandatory respec).

    It was fixed after IC was released. Patch 2.1.6
    Rapid Maneuver: Fixed an issue which prevented Rank 1 of this ability from affecting movement speed while you were on your mount.
    I'm a filthy console peasant...and there's nothing in the PS4 patch notes about RM being fixed :(
    I use a morphed version but the skill itself works fine for me. (PS4 Player here)
    Sadly that doesn't mean much, as it appears that it's the Rank 1 version of the ability is broken (according to the PC patch notes quoted above).
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