PVP on Console Unplayable (bugs, lag)

Instant_Karma_88

A typical day in Cyrodiil on PS4 (for me):

I queue up for my campaign, and thankfully avoid a perma-load time, so I am off to a great start. After traveling to one of the keeps, I hit my first road block in the form of a door that will not open. I try swapping weapons because sometimes that helps, but nope. So I sigh out loud and proceed to sprint up the stairs and around to get out of the keep. OK I'm on my way. After picking off a couple stragglers heading to the battle, I find myself locked in combat... unable to mount or sneak. I let out another long sigh and start sprinting the rest of the way...

Ok so I'm in a siege now! Great let's do this!... So here's the part where the 4th Faction of Tamriel begins to envelop the entire battlefield with it's overwhelming presence. LAG FACTION. Everyone on the map is afflicted with the inability to use their abilities with any kind of timing or success. Guess I'll just try to shoot some light arrow attacks til we take this keep. Oh, what's that? I can't because I lag out and I find myself reading a death recap of a fight that never took place, at least it didn't on my television screen.

After I facepalm for about 12 full seconds IRL, I respawn and head back out. Lo' and Behold I am STILL locked in combat! After I revived! Wow... I don't even...

I sprint for the next 10 minutes back to the siege (never being allowed to mount up). I finally get to some small engagements outside the main battle ( figure this'll be better, maybe my connection is just bad right now) I try to initiate combat with a Critical Rush. BAM, hit with the "any-charge-type ability animation-lock" bug. I curse out loud and wait, and watch, while my allies are overtaken and I am quickly swarmed, effectively and indefinitely CCed by no one. Why? Because I tried to play the game I guess.


I am done raging but I just wanted to make a post about my experience: that I bought this game after a year of waiting and watching PC players enjoy it. I read different reviews that said "they have fixed a lot of the bugs" and " it's like a whole new game a year later". Man, I was so excited.

But I guess my naivete has really gotten me this time because my hopes were so high that now it is agonizing for me to even think that this game may not be worth my time after all.

I'll keep playing, leveling, grinding solo til i have a couple VR14s I guess and maybe see that patch and what it has to offer, but as far as I'm concerned PvP is unplayable right now. What a sad thing.

edit: People seem to be focusing on my complaints of lag, which was one small part of my post. This is part of the problem, but my biggest issues are with the endless bugs (doors, animation glitches, not being able to leave combat, etc)

Glitches like these are due to the game mechanics being sloppy, not the ZoS servers or anything doing with internet.

KingKush

I play on Xbox NA and I experience no lag during pvp and very minor Frame rate drop. One thing I do experience quite a bit is after a while I'm Cyrodil, spell animations get bugged and stop appearing. Included in that is the animation for my Crystal frags proc(hands glowing purple) will stop working. Other than that everything is pretty smooth for me during pvp.

PBpsy

You should transfer to PC.

....

It is exactly the same and it's been like that for a year but with better graphics.

tist

@KingKush

I am glad to hear someone else is having the same issue as me. After a big battle my spell particles stop displaying for crystal frags, mages fury, harness magicka and others. Going to upload a video in hopes to get this fixed.

BuggeX

Hmmmm..........

could it be?!

No.........

The XBONE is better than the PS4?!?!?!?!?

King Bozo

If you think it's bad console go to pc. Pc is much worse in cyrodiill from my experience and I have a great pc.

Penguiins

Never had those issues on XBONE. Yeah sometimes there is some lag when you have 50vs50 battles, but the not being able to mount stuff has never happened to me, and a door not working is extremely rare.

TequilaFire

It is amazing how some people have exactly the opposite experience.
Other than a completely yellow map on PS4 Haderus pvp has been a lot better for me than my PC experience.
(Nothing to do with platform)

markt84

It really isn't bad on XB, now you get booked every now and then. Sometimes when u die you get stuck on the long load screen, usually I just restart my game when I get that now. But for the most part it runs great. Sound skips when you're in a huge fight, but yeah, nothing that doesn't make me love PvP. Well besides the op PC transfer that I harp about all the time on the forum

Sithisvoid

PBpsy wrote: »

You should transfer to PC.

....

It is exactly the same and it's been like that for a year but with better graphics.

lol this is priceless.

But yeah OP i feel your pain.

TequilaFire wrote: »

It is amazing how some people have exactly the opposite experience.
Other than a completely yellow map on PS4 Haderus pvp has been a lot better for me than my PC experience.
(Nothing to do with platform)

Not for me pvp lag fest on haderus. Try getting in a big battle i know it's only once a week but it's lag to the extreme.

TequilaFire

Sithisvoid wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

You should transfer to PC.

....

It is exactly the same and it's been like that for a year but with better graphics.

lol this is priceless.

But yeah OP i feel your pain.

TequilaFire wrote: »

It is amazing how some people have exactly the opposite experience.
Other than a completely yellow map on PS4 Haderus pvp has been a lot better for me than my PC experience.
(Nothing to do with platform)

Not for me pvp lag fest on haderus. Try getting in a big battle i know it's only once a week but it's lag to the extreme.

I won't say there has been zero lag, just less.
The other night when we took all our EP home keeps back (for a while lol) there was some large battles where the typical meteor spam reared its ugly head for the first time with the usual lag results.

Instant_Karma_88

more frustration from bugs than from lag, if you didn't get that feeling from the original post.

Mighty_oakk

I have occasional lag spikes, nothing like what your experiencing.

If what was happening to you was happening to everyone noone would be in cyrodil.

Might be more of a problem on your end.

OneBadHuskerFan

XB1 NA player here. Don't think I can recall a time where the lag has been bad, at least not enough to come to mind. Occasionally get the "you are in combat" thing and can't mount right away, but when that happens it only lasts a few seconds. I will agree that it is annoying though when you are in a huge group playing and you can get left behind quickly if everybody mounts up and gets moving before you can mount up. I think last night was the first time I've ever seen a noticeable drop in the frame rate and that was because there was AT LEAST 100 people in a huge battle inside a keep. It was f'ing epic even with the FPS hit.

Overall I've been VERY HAPPY with PvP. Sure it's not perfect, but it's still amazing.

Cagro

KingKush wrote: »

I play on Xbox NA and I experience no lag during pvp and very minor Frame rate drop. One thing I do experience quite a bit is after a while I'm Cyrodil, spell animations get bugged and stop appearing. Included in that is the animation for my Crystal frags proc(hands glowing purple) will stop working. Other than that everything is pretty smooth for me during pvp.

This is the reason why I went with Xbox One over PS4. PS4 have better graphics but Xbox's online is better.

technohic

Sounds like XB1 players are not quite there in population and use of some abilities yet as the meta if they are not having it yet.

OneBadHuskerFan

technohic wrote: »

Sounds like XB1 players are not quite there in population and use of some abilities yet as the meta if they are not having it yet.

Right, explain the over an hour it took to get into my Cyrodiil campaign and the countless Meteors going off last night. There are PLENTY of people playing.

Sallington

tist wrote: »

@KingKush

I am glad to hear someone else is having the same issue as me. After a big battle my spell particles stop displaying for crystal frags, mages fury, harness magicka and others. Going to upload a video in hopes to get this fixed.

This has been happening on PC for ages.

gjmgamesub17_ESO

I've done many large scale battles in pvp on my ps4 but never lagged.

Perma CCed unable to break CC (pvp and pve)? Yup
Steamrolled by a vr14 pc xfer? Yup
Missing ground reticules from seige weapons? Yup
Annoying people with mic on full time? Yup
No way at all to coordinate any type of real strategy in pvp? Yup

Lagging out in pvp battles? Nope

Gorthax

There is only ONE way to correct this issue. ZoS has told us on pc many MANY times!

Disable ALL your addons, reset your modem, reset your router, and let it all boot back up normally, and play the game without addons.

So OP; Disable all your addons, reset your modem, reset your router and play again WITHOUT addons!

*for anyone who cant tell, I know consoles dont have addons but this has been ZoS excuse for well over a year as to why us PC players experience horrible lag*

Gorthax

Cagro wrote: »

KingKush wrote: »

I play on Xbox NA and I experience no lag during pvp and very minor Frame rate drop. One thing I do experience quite a bit is after a while I'm Cyrodil, spell animations get bugged and stop appearing. Included in that is the animation for my Crystal frags proc(hands glowing purple) will stop working. Other than that everything is pretty smooth for me during pvp.

This is the reason why I went with Xbox One over PS4. PS4 have better graphics but Xbox's online is better.

you are aware that you are connecting to ZoS servers, not microsofts not sonys...... It could also be due to both consoles having separate patches meaning higher chance for ZoS to screw something up like normal during patches lol Stick around, you will see it more often

technohic

OneBadHuskerFan wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Sounds like XB1 players are not quite there in population and use of some abilities yet as the meta if they are not having it yet.

Right, explain the over an hour it took to get into my Cyrodiil campaign and the countless Meteors going off last night. There are PLENTY of people playing.

They must just be doing it wrong.

Sallington

Gorthax wrote: »

There is only ONE way to correct this issue. ZoS has told us on pc many MANY times!

Disable ALL your addons, reset your modem, reset your router, and let it all boot back up normally, and play the game without addons.

So OP; Disable all your addons, reset your modem, reset your router and play again WITHOUT addons!

*for anyone who cant tell, I know consoles dont have addons but this has been ZoS excuse for well over a year as to why us PC players experience horrible lag*

Well, their most recent solution was asking the players to spread out.

H3Li0S

Ps4 console player here. Sorry to tell you that i never experienced any lag.

Hope499

Sometimes I get a little lag with 100+ players on screen, but even then its not very often....Xbox One here....

Sithisvoid

You know every game ppl jump up and say "hey i get no lag!" then months later it's addressed as a major issue and patches are released, so can we just skip all that? Large portions of the player base experience major lag. Those who don't- Congrats you got the lucky end, doesn't change it for the rest of us.


INb4 ppl say "git better internets"

Robbmrp

@ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom, @ZOS_BrianWheeler

This post sums up what the PC community has been telling you guys for over a year. The games lag isn't due to the players ISP. It doesn't matter what Platform you play on. You WILL encounter lag that is not related to the player. These issues will continue to come up until they are resolved at the source...ZOS....

I realize that you have changes that could fix this coming in the next update, but what good does that really do us now when we have NO CLUE WHEN THE UPDATE WILL BE COMPLETED....

Delay Imperial City until you get it right if you must BUT PLEASE DO NOT DELAY THE CHANGES TO PVP.... Lets get these on the PTS and test. WE WOULD LOVE TO TEST IT FOR YOU.....

If you have to eliminate the use of Ultimates to get rid of the PVP Lag, I'm all for it. That will stop those endless meteor drops that EVERY faction does to specifically try to increase the lag. This will continue as long as players are allowed to build and use Ultimate abilities. I would rather have a smooth running PVP battle head to head than see some shiny rock fall down causing all kinds of problems for the server which just isn't capable of handling it. Give me a PVP battle where it's just my skills and the other players that actually work for us and don't get stuck in the animation due to lag.

We have siege weapons after all, what do we really need the Ultimate for....

Pman85

no lag to report here. At all. since day 1. PC and console.

#googlefiber
#alienware


#spellanimationsdontlagthemesswithfps
#difference



#whatlag
#groupfinderworksforme

Sallington

Pman85 wrote: »

no lag to report here. At all. since day 1. PC and console.

#googlefiber
#alienware


#spellanimationsdontlagthemesswithfps
#difference



#whatlag
#groupfinderworksforme

1/10

RazzPitazz

So this should put the final nail in the coffin of "user end issue" we've been trying to buy for a while.

Instant_Karma_88

Pman85 wrote: »

no lag to report here. At all. since day 1. PC and console.

#googlefiber
#alienware


#spellanimationsdontlagthemesswithfps
#difference



#whatlag
#groupfinderworksforme

congrats bro. This doesn't help anyone else's situation. Did you have anything to contribute?