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Do you like or dislike increasing Vet Ranks?
Soloeus
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There are good arguments for both sides. How do you feel and why?
Edited by Soloeus on August 20, 2014 9:39AM Within; Without.
Do you like or dislike increasing Vet Ranks? 513 votes
Like!
27%
143 votes
Dislike!
54%
282 votes
Undecided.
17%
88 votes
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Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dislike!My stance is that with Champion System on the horizon, further increases of Vet Ranks is just more work to convert over. I also don't enjoy Level/Gear Treadmills, and constant Vertical Movement.
Within; Without.8 -
EinionYrth✭✭✭✭Dislike!I only get to play for a couple of hours at the weekend; they're raising the ranks faster than I'm climbing them.7 -
Road2insanity777✭✭✭I'm fine with more levels, but they need to figure out something for gear scaling or something. If I have to remake my 10 Legendary Weapons, I'm done. I probably will never have the amount of free time i did over the last few months ever again and i prefer to finish at the peak of something, not slowly slip into mediocrity.5 -
Paske✭✭✭✭Dislike!Dislike is a bit mild term for me.
More like disgusted by veteran ranks.
I actively hate it even.8 -
shadowz081✭✭✭Dislike!My personal opinion is that too little time have elapsed since we were forced to change armor sets due to the armor set ability redo update. And now we may be forced to change up again to remain competitive and not be a hinder.4 -
Srugzal✭✭✭✭✭Like!I like it that ZOS has extended the veteran ranks again, because it puts us on notice once and for all that ZOS intends this to be just another top-heavy grindfest of a game, where a few immortal godlike elites will dominate everything, where the majority of the players, who just want to enjoy the story and have a deeper experience, are treated like so much garbage. Meanwhile, the problems go unfixed.
Yeah, I know, sour grapes. But it is what it is. Shame on this company for going in this direction.19 -
Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dislike!I like it that ZOS has extended the veteran ranks again, because it puts us on notice once and for all that ZOS intends this to be just another top-heavy grindfest of a game, where a few immortal godlike elites will dominate everything, where the majority of the players, who just want to enjoy the story and have a deeper experience, are treated like so much garbage. Meanwhile, the problems go unfixed.
Yeah, I know, sour grapes. But it is what it is. Shame on this company for going in this direction.
Sounds like you should have pressed "Dislike" instead then.
Within; Without.5 -
Srugzal✭✭✭✭✭Like!I like it that ZOS has extended the veteran ranks again, because it puts us on notice once and for all that ZOS intends this to be just another top-heavy grindfest of a game, where a few immortal godlike elites will dominate everything, where the majority of the players, who just want to enjoy the story and have a deeper experience, are treated like so much garbage. Meanwhile, the problems go unfixed.
Yeah, I know, sour grapes. But it is what it is. Shame on this company for going in this direction.
Sounds like you should have pressed "Dislike" instead then.
Look up the word "irony" in the dictionary.Edited by Srugzal on August 20, 2014 10:36AM2 -
Frenkthevile✭✭✭✭Like!I'm tired of MMOs for casual players. Finally i found again vertical progression and new maps addition like in the ''good old times''. Go play gw2 if you like so much fancy hats and a character that will always remain the same, with the same build!8 -
DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Dislike!The reason I dislike level increases at such short intervals is, that it makes gear in this game absolutely meaningless at the moment. There was already too little gear progression, now there will be even less.5 -
Auralia✭✭✭Dislike!The lvl cap should only increase a maximum of once a year. I just reached vet9 now the max lvl will seem even more far away.2 -
kevlarto_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Undecided.Don't really care at this point, I think this is the last of VR, before the new Champion system comes in game it's only 2 levels and in the near future vr will only be a bad memory..:)1 -
FunkheaD✭✭✭Dislike!I'm utterly outraged at such a shortsighted design decision. I implore Zenimax to peel this idea off and discard it amongst the ever increasing repository of terrible ideas...
I will be unsubbing if I have to regear and grind again just to compete at the top tier of PvP... Again..3 -
SantieClaws✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dislike!Dislike - mostly because there is currently no solo freindly alternative to a full four levels of VR.Shunrr's Skooma Oasis - The Movie. A housing video like no other ...
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Like!Like! I was VR 12 two days after the last rank increase, trials just got uninteresting for me since I got all gear and Hard Mode rewards are kinda useless when you look @ how difficult they are to complete and how low the armour difference is (even though Hard Mode gear is supposed to scall up to VR14 so I guess it will be a nice addition
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I don't understand people that dislike this so much.
First of all: It's no big news. Level increase has been on the works for a while now, Champion system was only spoken of at Quakecon and it was unrealistic to think that it would come so soon and that upper Craglorn and the next zones wouldn't come with a level increase.
Secondly: If you're ages away from being VR12, two or four more levels won't make a difference and if you're slow beacuse you're taking your time and enjoying the game, you should rejoice that you will have even more content to clear. As for being competitive, if you aren't VR12 yet, I'm sad to announce that it's sadly never gonna happen no matter how fast the levels increase
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Regarding gear:For people complaining about their enchanted gear, the level increase is no big news once again and after the latest changes on gear, you should have anticipated this by not enchanting to legendary (which once again should be a very rare & expensive thing to do anyways). ZOS has made major changes to gear since the beginning and I can assure you it's not over yet. If you where naive enough to believe ZOS would behave differently you can only blame yourself.
At last: It's a bit egoistical to tell people that have already reached max level that they have to wait for slower people to catch up because they are slow or don't play much. That's not how most MMOs work and it's a good thing. As someone stated above, if you want a game for casual players that won't evolve much with no linear progression and that still allows you to be competitive (to a certain extend): GW2 might be what you're looking for. The fact you are slow at clearing content shouldn't penalize people that have been VR12 for weeks and are waiting for more things to do.
Haters "LOL" at will. Won't make all of this less true.9 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭Dislike!I'm against it because I can't see anything that it adds to the game in any way. It is just another artificial goal to make people feel like they have to do craglorn. If it was good content people would be tripping over themselves to do it already. It just seems completely pointless and it frustrates me they are adding two level that basically mean nothing knowing most of the community don't want them. It really shows they don't care much about what the community want and are going to force us to play the way they want.
Maybe they should change their tag line from "Play how you like" to "Play how we tell you".1 -
smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dislike!I like it that ZOS has extended the veteran ranks again, because it puts us on notice once and for all that ZOS intends this to be just another top-heavy grindfest of a game, where a few immortal godlike elites will dominate everything, where the majority of the players, who just want to enjoy the story and have a deeper experience, are treated like so much garbage. Meanwhile, the problems go unfixed.
Yeah, I know, sour grapes. But it is what it is. Shame on this company for going in this direction.
Sounds like you should have pressed "Dislike" instead then.
Look up the word "irony" in the dictionary.
I don't get it, so you voted like just so you could post the opposite to set up being ironic? It's ironic that you like it since you don't like it? Sounds more nonsensical and confused than ironic.
You're just part of a bigger number in a poll, there's no sarcastic like option.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.2 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dislike!Ofc i dislike , it is a *** change... then again , i know who decided to make it , so im not surprised."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
-Hanlon's razor0 -
NightDragon✭✭Undecided.I'm not 100% happy but I'm not going to complain about it. I will slowly get to the new VR rank.1 -
The_Sadist✭✭✭✭✭Undecided should be indifferent, I'm not even phased
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Casually stalking the forums2 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Like!I'm against it because I can't see anything that it adds to the game in any way. It is just another artificial goal to make people feel like they have to do craglorn. If it was good content people would be tripping over themselves to do it already. It just seems completely pointless and it frustrates me they are adding two level that basically mean nothing knowing most of the community don't want them. It really shows they don't care much about what the community want and are going to force us to play the way they want.
Maybe they should change their tag line from "Play how you like" to "Play how we tell you".
You know nothing about what the community wants since most players aren't even on forums. Guess most don't care or approve since they aren't here complaining.4 -
EinionYrth✭✭✭✭Dislike!I'm against it because I can't see anything that it adds to the game in any way. It is just another artificial goal to make people feel like they have to do craglorn. If it was good content people would be tripping over themselves to do it already. It just seems completely pointless and it frustrates me they are adding two level that basically mean nothing knowing most of the community don't want them. It really shows they don't care much about what the community want and are going to force us to play the way they want.
Maybe they should change their tag line from "Play how you like" to "Play how we tell you".
You know nothing about what the community wants since most players aren't even on forums. Guess most don't care or approve since they aren't here complaining.
The ones who don't frequent the fora almost certainly don't read the patchnotes, so they don't know about it yet.1 -
xMovingTarget✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Dislike!I dislike it. But its fine if they go up vet ranks until the champion system is implemented. Sure, i dont like to have to equip myself up again. i actually wear all legendary.
But i mean, what the hell. Its not that big of a problem. I just look forward to the champion system.1 -
Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dislike!Whole idea of a level cap is that you have maxed out your character and specialised in exactly the way you want with the attributes.
Once that specialisation is final....level cap should mean level cap.
Not ...oh lets have VR1...VR2...VR3... WTF is this treadmill for exactly ?Edited by Rune_Relic on August 20, 2014 12:59PMAnything that can be exploited will be exploited0 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Like!fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »
In elections, when you don't vote or vote blank, it means you're on board with what is being done or simply don't care. Just the way the world works.
In any case, they most certainly can't be claimed to be against.vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »
2 days to level up, 2 months of Arena, Trials, gearing, PVPing, till next rank increase. My char keeps getting more and more OP and I have more and more things to do, so yeah, it's worth it. 4 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Like!Rune_Relic wrote: »Whole idea of a level cap is that you have maxed out your character and specialised in exactly the way you want with the attributes.
Once that specialisation is final....level cap should mean level cap.
Not ...oh lets have VR1...VR2...VR3... WTF is this treadmill for exactly ?
You don't get more attribute points and skills are independent of level so actually, level cap is level 50. VR levels are just a goal to strife for that allows you to get even better gear.Edited by TehMagnus on August 20, 2014 1:05PM4 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Dislike!fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »
In elections, when you don't vote or vote blank, it means you're on board with what is being done or simply don't care. Just the way the world works.
In any case, they most certainly can't be claimed to be against.vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »
2 days to level up, 2 months of Arena, Trials, gearing, PVPing, till next rank increase. My char keeps getting more and more OP and I have more and more things to do, so yeah, it's worth it.
Of course they could have done all those things without raising the level cap...1