Craglorn quests what is the point?

kitsinni

I'm trying to figure out what the point of these Craglorn quests are. You have the daily's that award a random green item that is usually much worse than what you have picked up doing the quest. Then you have the long chains that run you around the entire place and award a specific green item that is horrible. We did one last night and the V11 cloth hat had 8 less magicka than the V1 green one of my group mates had on. Who are these supposed to appeal to and why is the reward for these so absolutely pathetic? Is there really absolutely no end game at V12 other than 2 trials that can be done in under 10 minutes?

Worstluck

You can go PvP, or create alts, which I am doing with the 20 days left on my account. That's about it. I will be back when they add meaningful stuff to do in veteran ranks, but I think I will be waiting a while

Reykice

Yea... nothing to do basically... if they had arena PvP or some kind of grind to keep you going...

I guess they figured it will take us a lot longer to get to VR10 and by then they will add more content....

Covyn

Quickest Trials I have seen is 14 minutes, but then again I don't browse the leaderboards, it was just a guildie notification.

Craglorn is a waste, completely boring grind for VR's with no rewards.....but I guess that follows the path they made for VR's everywhere else. The game ends after you defeat Molag. Beyond that the immersion dies and it's just a waste of time doing "busy work".

GrimlockSaves

Perhaps developers thought people playing this MMORPG were seeking an RPG experience rather than a grind/reward experience. Craglorn quests tell a story. Does no one play this game for FUN rather than epic loot?

steveb16_ESO46

GrimlockSaves wrote: »

Perhaps developers thought people playing this MMORPG were seeking an RPG experience rather than a grind/reward experience. Craglorn quests tell a story. Does no one play this game for FUN rather than epic loot?

A good deal of the ones who play for fun and the story bail when they hit VR.

Worstluck

GrimlockSaves wrote: »

Perhaps developers thought people playing this MMORPG were seeking an RPG experience rather than a grind/reward experience. Craglorn quests tell a story. Does no one play this game for FUN rather than epic loot?

Yes, a story that I cannot experience unless my friends are online or I can actually find someone to do the quests with (a 'fun' task in itself)...Some of the quests require 3-4 people to even finish, so it's locked content if you don't have anyone to do it with.

ninjajucerb14_ESO

Need a /leveloff command to get to a level and stop to do the pvp like DAoC had. Still need more battleground type areas.

Cyrodil was an interesting idea, just poorly executed. Never should have been a huge open area. Should have been more battleground oriented than the huge open expanse that they have now.

Its to the point that the majority of the servers for pvp are known for just questing servers with places like Wabbajack that are for straight pvp (god help you if you quest on this).

Genadine_Holychild

I have to agree completely.

I played the game my way which was to solo everything I could and only grouped for the group dungeons (and still miss half)

After completing all 3 factions and being a hero for all (getting a completely useless reward at the end also) I move to Craglorn as a V11.5 and all there is to offer is a herd of mindless people rushing about doing anomalies or another mindless herd of people doing 3 bosses ad neseum, I joined the 3 bosses to simply make V12 then dropped as it was painful to do.

So today I go looking for something else to do, quests and dungeons but oh no the quests are designed for groups as are the dungeons.

What happened to the play the game how you want that was so so prominent on all the advertising, it was hogwash.

So I am V12 and nothing to do apart from TS, but being in full Epic gear is pointless.

It appears you join an 'uber' guild to do trials but they only take experienced people or make alts, well I have a main and 7 TS alts so guess I let my account lapse and wait for the next ESO game that Zenimax has nothing at all to do with.

Talk about hype with no content just like D3 was.

Genadine_Holychild

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

GrimlockSaves wrote: »

Perhaps developers thought people playing this MMORPG were seeking an RPG experience rather than a grind/reward experience. Craglorn quests tell a story. Does no one play this game for FUN rather than epic loot?

A good deal of the ones who play for fun and the story bail when they hit VR.

I would love to do the quests in Craglorn but the EU server simply doesn't have the people wanting this.

steveb16_ESO46

Genadine_Holychild wrote: »

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

GrimlockSaves wrote: »

Perhaps developers thought people playing this MMORPG were seeking an RPG experience rather than a grind/reward experience. Craglorn quests tell a story. Does no one play this game for FUN rather than epic loot?

A good deal of the ones who play for fun and the story bail when they hit VR.

I would love to do the quests in Craglorn but the EU server simply doesn't have the people wanting this.

Yea, well when I played today around the Akir desert I saw maybe 8 or 9 other players all afternoon. And i'm not sure if 2 of those weren't bots either. It was actually quite nice but probably not healthy.

ESO is what it is - I'm impressed you even made it to Craglorn. For better or worse getting through VR favours a certain kind of player and as you've found that type of player tends to be focused on other aspects of the game than story and RP.

And that's fine, the game is made for them not me after L50.

kitsinni

GrimlockSaves wrote: »

Perhaps developers thought people playing this MMORPG were seeking an RPG experience rather than a grind/reward experience. Craglorn quests tell a story. Does no one play this game for FUN rather than epic loot?

I enjoy the story but if I have to do a quest that takes hours and hours to complete, have to have four people on it, we all have to be on the exact same step of the quest then I expect to get something more than the crappiest gear in the game and a story as the reward.

jeradlub17_ESO

All I see here are a bunch of solo players whining that they joined a mmorg. This isn't xbox guys. It is not a solo game and never was meant to be. Massively multiplayer online roleplaying game....it's right in the name.

This is exactly part of what is killing the game. They took a single player xbox game and tried to make a mmorg out of it but did not fully commit to doing so due to trying to retain the TES crowd and consequentially failed at both. They made it too solo friendly to the point you can cap without grouping breaking the mmorg concept and then those folks that like that are upset when they finally have to be part of a mmorg. On the flip side mmorg people actually wanting groups can't find enough people to do so from so many having left due to the game catering way too much to solo'rs while claiming to be a mmorg and granting no better loot than what you can get alone.

Syntse

Covyn wrote: »

Quickest Trials I have seen is 14 minutes, but then again I don't browse the leaderboards, it was just a guildie notification.

This was posted on some other thread few days ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP2bVvnZELk

jeevin

Genadine_Holychild wrote: »

I have to agree completely.

I played the game my way which was to solo everything I could and only grouped for the group dungeons (and still miss half)

After completing all 3 factions and being a hero for all (getting a completely useless reward at the end also) I move to Craglorn as a V11.5 and all there is to offer is a herd of mindless people rushing about doing anomalies or another mindless herd of people doing 3 bosses ad neseum, I joined the 3 bosses to simply make V12 then dropped as it was painful to do.

So today I go looking for something else to do, quests and dungeons but oh no the quests are designed for groups as are the dungeons.

What happened to the play the game how you want that was so so prominent on all the advertising, it was hogwash.

So I am V12 and nothing to do apart from TS, but being in full Epic gear is pointless.

It appears you join an 'uber' guild to do trials but they only take experienced people or make alts, well I have a main and 7 TS alts so guess I let my account lapse and wait for the next ESO game that Zenimax has nothing at all to do with.

Talk about hype with no content just like D3 was.

I feel the same. I'm a big time Elder Scrolls fan and started this game with a few friends but they've left because the game was/is in pretty bad shape. Now no friends play I have no interest in playing with randoms or joining grind groups. I'm logging in with no motivation to do anything.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

Worstluck wrote: »

GrimlockSaves wrote: »

Perhaps developers thought people playing this MMORPG were seeking an RPG experience rather than a grind/reward experience. Craglorn quests tell a story. Does no one play this game for FUN rather than epic loot?

Yes, a story that I cannot experience unless my friends are online or I can actually find someone to do the quests with (a 'fun' task in itself)...Some of the quests require 3-4 people to even finish, so it's locked content if you don't have anyone to do it with.

This.

Forced-group story content is a dead-end, a waste of develoepr resources and a frustration for those that do play games for stories and not just phat lewt ***.

wycked_lizb14_ESO

jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »

All I see here are a bunch of solo players whining that they joined a mmorg. This isn't xbox guys. It is not a solo game and never was meant to be. Massively multiplayer online roleplaying game....it's right in the name.

This is exactly part of what is killing the game. They took a single player xbox game and tried to make a mmorg out of it but did not fully commit to doing so due to trying to retain the TES crowd and consequentially failed at both. They made it too solo friendly to the point you can cap without grouping breaking the mmorg concept and then those folks that like that are upset when they finally have to be part of a mmorg. On the flip side mmorg people actually wanting groups can't find enough people to do so from so many having left due to the game catering way too much to solo'rs while claiming to be a mmorg and granting no better loot than what you can get alone.

I totally agree. It is a different atmosphere on the PC. I played it on the PC from beta up until it released on the PS4. I find that those on the PS4 have a different attitude entirely. No RP, everyone is in a rush to top out and the market place is a mess from people who have no idea how the economy should work in a MMO. It is really hard to get use to and irritating that this beautiful game is such a mess on the PS4. I have made new friends and I do enjoy playing with them and will probably stay on the PS4 but I sure do miss the PC crowd.

The voice chat can be cool at times but for the most part crafting while listening to the ridiculous BS, arguing and nastiness is just ludicrous. It is certainly a different type of gamer than what I am use to in an MMO. (Not meaning everyone so don't anyone get all defensive.) I miss the chat box and the benefits it brings to guilds and selling.

This game probably would have been best left to strictly PC. I do not think the economy will hold out or even straighten out and that will be the downfall of the game for me. Playing on the console will certainly not be a long term thing for me like it has been on the PC for MMO's I enjoy. I played six years on EQ1 and 2 and many years on others. I am starting to get bored already since I moved to the console due to the lack of RP, grouping and the pace that many take on the console.

Sausage

I think group-zone is good idea, more variety, the better, theres already 18 solo zones. Craglorn needs dailies and good LFG-finder.

Rev Rielle

kitsinni wrote: »

I'm trying to figure out what the point of these Craglorn quests are. You have the daily's that award a random green item that is usually much worse than what you have picked up doing the quest. Then you have the long chains that run you around the entire place and award a specific green item that is horrible. We did one last night and the V11 cloth hat had 8 less magicka than the V1 green one of my group mates had on. Who are these supposed to appeal to and why is the reward for these so absolutely pathetic? Is there really absolutely no end game at V12 other than 2 trials that can be done in under 10 minutes?

The zone is actually very well done on the whole. It is unfortunate that a lot of the rewards from those Yokudan boxes are underwhelming. But Zenimax have never made and secret that Craglorn is their first group-orientated zone. They've even coined a name for it: Adventure Zone. Hopefully we'll see more of them in the future.

Free yourself from the commonly self-imposed shackles of doing everything just for the reward. If that's done, hopefully you'll start to enjoy yourself. Remember, it's just a game. Nothing about it is really important, not one thing. So just try and have fun moment to moment.

Rinmaethodain

Craglorn quests give nice exp for completition, offer enjoyable storyline and some visually challenging bosses (like looking cools). They also offer new type of enemy.

The main Craglorn storyline, which is at first long to start (gotta do 3 long quests) but then (its quest after quest) is very easy to comple even with pug groups of people who never started this storyline, awards you a random item with nirnhoned trait. You can research it or trade with someone who wants to research it for a pure nirn stone.

The_Sadist

I complete Craglorn quests for the achievements and whatnot, that's really my only incentive.. Once my last alt is done with Craglorn I'll probably never bother with it again outside of vet DSA.

Mathius_Mordred

Forced group quests in a game with an absolute shite group finder and in a game where you can't replay quests with other levels coming up to help them, fantastic idea and why I no longer bother logging in and why I cancelled my sub, especially seeing IC is going to be the same. Shame but plenty of other MMOs that want my cash.

J2JMC

wycked_lizb14_ESO wrote: »

jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »

All I see here are a bunch of solo players whining that they joined a mmorg. This isn't xbox guys. It is not a solo game and never was meant to be. Massively multiplayer online roleplaying game....it's right in the name.

This is exactly part of what is killing the game. They took a single player xbox game and tried to make a mmorg out of it but did not fully commit to doing so due to trying to retain the TES crowd and consequentially failed at both. They made it too solo friendly to the point you can cap without grouping breaking the mmorg concept and then those folks that like that are upset when they finally have to be part of a mmorg. On the flip side mmorg people actually wanting groups can't find enough people to do so from so many having left due to the game catering way too much to solo'rs while claiming to be a mmorg and granting no better loot than what you can get alone.

I totally agree. It is a different atmosphere on the PC. I played it on the PC from beta up until it released on the PS4. I find that those on the PS4 have a different attitude entirely. No RP, everyone is in a rush to top out and the market place is a mess from people who have no idea how the economy should work in a MMO. It is really hard to get use to and irritating that this beautiful game is such a mess on the PS4. I have made new friends and I do enjoy playing with them and will probably stay on the PS4 but I sure do miss the PC crowd.

The voice chat can be cool at times but for the most part crafting while listening to the ridiculous BS, arguing and nastiness is just ludicrous. It is certainly a different type of gamer than what I am use to in an MMO. (Not meaning everyone so don't anyone get all defensive.) I miss the chat box and the benefits it brings to guilds and selling.

This game probably would have been best left to strictly PC. I do not think the economy will hold out or even straighten out and that will be the downfall of the game for me. Playing on the console will certainly not be a long term thing for me like it has been on the PC for MMO's I enjoy. I played six years on EQ1 and 2 and many years on others. I am starting to get bored already since I moved to the console due to the lack of RP, grouping and the pace that many take on the console.

Did you really necro a thread to type "#PCMasterRace"? And you can blame the trash economy on your other transfer friends since they're the ones who established it.
@wycked_lizb14_ESO