Unstable Wall - is this intended?

Malveria · November 2014

2k damage with a single wall of elements.

Those first three? Same as the last person. 3k fire damage in less than 3 seconds. Is this intended by Zeni?

heng14rwb17_ESO · November 2014

Wow...did u just stand still in the wall of fire?
U did not move or dodge out?

OtarTheMad · November 2014

I doubt it. The damage of 504 seems a little more likely what zos intended than the other ones for obvious reasons.

Huntler · November 2014

They stack, you stood in one that was actually several stacked on themselves... you may also be a vamp to just add to it, but not necessarily.

Davadin · November 2014

so if i spam a few of them at the same spot before the first one's extinguished, the damage will be tripled/quadrupled???

Hmmm.........

JaJaLuka · November 2014

how long did you stand on them all for?

Nala_ · November 2014

Malveria wrote: »

2k damage with a single wall of elements.

Those first three? Same as the last person. 3k fire damage in less than 3 seconds. Is this intended by Zeni?

you literally stood on all the walls and didnt move, you must just have no idea what those skills do or youre just really really slow. theyre counted as dots so the damage is the entire duration of the ability you stood in (yes that is intended)

aco5712 · November 2014

i told you, you stood in them mal >.>

Subtomik · November 2014

I cant wait for the million tells asking why our blockades hit for thousands of damage and theirs tick for 100 lol

RinaldoGandolphi · November 2014

Its no different then Snipe, which hits for more damage then that on a reg basis...at least with WOE you can simply walk or run out of it, no such luck with snipe.

I think WOE is fine, its meant to be used situationally, such as when folks are pouring in through a breeched keep wall..or a hallway that is a choke point...those are the places you want to use WOE, nerfing it will just make the skill useless.

Malveria · November 2014

This is a result of animation cancelling guys. Please don't pretend otherwise. I didn't stand in the wall. I stepped on it. For less than three seconds.

I still don't understand how one person can churn out more than 3k damage in less than three seconds. How one person can drop someone's health bar with one ability when all they did is step in it for less than three seconds. And even less in open field.

This damage was being churned out in open field on a moving group too.

If this is intended, then this is intended. But if it isn't, well, let's address that please.

Gooey · November 2014

Malveria wrote: »

2k damage with a single wall of elements.

Those first three? Same as the last person. 3k fire damage in less than 3 seconds. Is this intended by Zeni?

Aoe_Barbecue · November 2014

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Nala_ · November 2014

Malveria wrote: »

This is a result of animation cancelling guys. Please don't pretend otherwise.

lmao, is this guy trolling or just new to the game? animation canceling doesnt make you cast spells any faster genius

msawwan2ub17_ESO · November 2014

there is a new skill line called MrsJones. you can get it if you pay me gold and i shall teach you how to use that skill.

there are alot of impostors out there, none that can do this.

there was no animation cancel or any macros used.

get real kid, this game is a 5 button game. how hard can it be?
when competitive gamers play it, its only normal they will *** on everyone else. its that simple.

please stop crying and learn to adapt. 1.5 is coming with great changes, time to change your tactics

i'd give EP and AD few weeks before they learn to follow DC great example of being original.

you have been informed

Best Player in the game out
Mrs Jones

ps. when will ZOS interview me? i am clearly the baddest mother effer in this game ....

aco5712 · November 2014

Jones can you teach me for free?

Pixysticks · November 2014

Malveria wrote: »

This is a result of animation cancelling guys.

I don't think you know what animation cancelling actually is, lol.

Mauz · November 2014

Malveria wrote: »

2k damage with a single wall of elements.

Those first three? Same as the last person. 3k fire damage in less than 3 seconds. Is this intended by Zeni?

If its really in less than 3 sec this would be 2000 dps by a single person single target with aoe spells which is impossible without cheating. Me and some guild mates only observed this behaviour in the last couple of days from a single team from DC. So this seems to be new.

Others might call it competative players, I call it exploiting. I assume they are doing it with a kind of netlimiter tool. Just report it over and over again, spam in zone and group chat so that others report these players. Do it for all fights where you find that something was strange like invisible on hit, break free on hit, insane dmg numbers, invulnerable players, 5x BE in 1 sec, super high dmg and never run out of resources etc. Takes a while but after a couple of weeks you never see them again -> problem fixed.

SienneYviete · November 2014

Mauz wrote: »

Malveria wrote: »

2k damage with a single wall of elements.

Those first three? Same as the last person. 3k fire damage in less than 3 seconds. Is this intended by Zeni?

If its really in less than 3 sec this would be 2000 dps by a single person single target with aoe spells which is impossible without cheating. Me and some guild mates only observed this behaviour in the last couple of days from a single team from DC. So this seems to be new.

Others might call it competative players, I call it exploiting. I assume they are doing it with a kind of netlimiter tool. Just report it over and over again, spam in zone and group chat so that others report these players. Do it for all fights where you find that something was strange like invisible on hit, break free on hit, insane dmg numbers, invulnerable players, 5x BE in 1 sec, super high dmg and never run out of resources etc. Takes a while but after a couple of weeks you never see them again -> problem fixed.

You win with the most lol worthy post of the day GG

jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 · November 2014

Nala_ wrote: »

Malveria wrote: »

This is a result of animation cancelling guys. Please don't pretend otherwise.

lmao, is this guy trolling or just new to the game? animation canceling doesnt make you cast spells any faster genius

Yes it does, it is also called clipping and it does circumvent the cast time by cancelling the animations. Can be done with another destro staff skill as well. Whether or not it is considered an exploit is for Zeni to decide. Two months ago only new players entering Cyro used this skill now everyone is on the bandwagon.

serenenightmare · November 2014

I like negates.

aco5712 · November 2014

serenenightmare wrote: »

I like negates.

no aeren, thats wasting an ult >.> dodge roll comes free

serenenightmare · November 2014

But, magicka...

Rylana · November 2014

My only issue with this skill as it stands relates to the AOE cap.

If it is indeed not obeying a cap of 6 (9 for power extraction) like all other AOE, then it should be adjusted thus.

Wall of elements always did crazy high DPS, but since it fires forward people tend not to use it (like combat prayer heals)

Some people found an application where this skill is beastly. Big deal.

But fix the cap.

Davadin · November 2014

Rylana wrote: »

My only issue with this skill as it stands relates to the AOE cap.

If it is indeed not obeying a cap of 6 (9 for power extraction) like all other AOE, then it should be adjusted thus.

Wall of elements always did crazy high DPS, but since it fires forward people tend not to use it (like combat prayer heals)

Some people found an application where this skill is beastly. Big deal.

But fix the cap.

AoE cap getting unleashed (except for healing) next patch. why cap somethig getting uncapped at the next release?

Rylana · November 2014

Davadin wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

My only issue with this skill as it stands relates to the AOE cap.

If it is indeed not obeying a cap of 6 (9 for power extraction) like all other AOE, then it should be adjusted thus.

Wall of elements always did crazy high DPS, but since it fires forward people tend not to use it (like combat prayer heals)

Some people found an application where this skill is beastly. Big deal.

But fix the cap.

AoE cap getting unleashed (except for healing) next patch. why cap somethig getting uncapped at the next release?

Because until that time we have another frag shield/gravity crush/streak issue thats just being exploited due to someone missing a flag in the code.

Ras_Alghul · November 2014

They stack and the damage is cumulative. Roll away from it.

Davadin · November 2014

Ras_Alghul wrote: »

They stack and the damage is cumulative. Roll away from it.

stackable from one person? So i can throw 3x wall and anybody standing there will get triple damage?

Ras_Alghul · November 2014

Correct, but the damage is not 3x at once it is cumulative so it ticks over time. Thus you can easily avoid it.

Morvul · November 2014

Davadin wrote: »

Ras_Alghul wrote: »

They stack and the damage is cumulative. Roll away from it.

stackable from one person? So i can throw 3x wall and anybody standing there will get triple damage?

I was wondering about that...
I tested with the "elemental barrier" morph, and against NPCs that one does most certainly not stack when used repeatetly by one person.

So, either players react to the skill differently then NPCs, or it's only the unstable morph which is stacking...

jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 · November 2014

"Davadin wrote: »

stackable from one person? So i can throw 3x wall and anybody standing there will get triple damage?

I'm pretty sure there is a way, an "exploit" perhaps, where 3 or more can be stacked and the damage registers instantly as one big hit - this is the 2k+ hits some are seeing as we all know Wall of Elements is not supposed to hit this hard from one player instantly. This is not working as intended if this is the case. I'm sure Zeni is already investigating the instant damage "use" of the skill and if it is in fact instant or just how the death recap is interpreting it but from time to time I know I got hit with an instant 2k wall and this wasn't something I could have dodged / rolled out of. That being said like most skills in Cyrodiil there are ways to counter legitimately used Wall of Elements.

The "Impulse Spamming Monkeys" will soon have to get a new nickname cuz you can bet they are already on this bandwagon and have added it to their limited repertoire of skills.