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how is the damage from unstable/volatile familliar calculated: spell damage or regular damage?
title says it all. Think: the lightning that the familiar shoots. I'm looking for a 100% factual answer, not an answer that you ASSUME, but the answer that you KNOW. This plays an integral part of my build, and I need to know for sure, but I can't find it anywhere online. Guess I'd also like to know about the lightning that the twilight launches as well.
Thanks ahead of time
Perhaps i could get an answer from a staff member to be sure about this one.
Thanks ahead of time
Perhaps i could get an answer from a staff member to be sure about this one.
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SexyVette07✭✭✭Think about it logically. The familiar is a spell thats casting a spell. They arent wielding a weapon. The familiar isnt a weapon ability
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SirPuppingtonVonHat✭✭✭✭✭Not sure which it is, or if it is even one of those; its entirely possible that the summons have their own scaling templates.The Psijic Order0 -
SexyVette07 wrote: »Think about it logically. The familiar is a spell thats casting a spell. They arent wielding a weapon. The familiar isnt a weapon ability
Spell.
does this mean that the lightning launched from a destruction staff isn't calculated as weapon-damage but as spell damage? Im pretty sure its weapon damage (not positive) but this leads me to believe that just because its a magic looking attack doesn't mean that it will be computed as spell-damage
but yeah, the fact that it's a spell that I cast makes me believe that it's calculated as spell damage... but I'm not 100% sure... and as I said this will play a huge rule in my build and is the deciding factor on some of my morphs that I'm holding back on right now... so i need to be 100% sure0 -
ZOS_AmeliaR✭✭✭✭✭Similar to its explosion, the volatile familiar's basic attacks scale based on the caster's maximum Magicka.Edited by ZOS_AmeliaR on April 23, 2014 8:55PM6
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ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »Similar to its explosion, the volatile familiar's basic attacks scale based on the caster's maximum magicka.
Base, Altered, or Altered but not including anything putting a hold on a portion of your magicka like the Familiar ability itself?
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Kyosji✭✭✭@ZOS_AmeliaR Is there some sort of calculator for this? Also, can we get a solid answer on what attributes power up which lines? I'm told that your Stamina is what determines your staff damage (light and heavy attacks only), and your Magika is what determines your skills, regardless of class and what attribute it drains. Is this true? We need answers, please!0 -
ZOS_AmeliaR✭✭✭✭✭
It's based on maximum Magicka including all buffs and gear. The familiar's damage isn't reduced by abilities that reserve a portion of your Magicka pool (e.g. Magelight or summoning the familiar itself). Hope this helps clarify!Rajani Isa wrote: »Base, Altered, or Altered but not including anything putting a hold on a portion of your magicka like the Familiar ability itself?4 -
JJDrakken✭✭✭@ZOS_AmeliaR Is there some sort of calculator for this? Also, can we get a solid answer on what attributes power up which lines? I'm told that your Stamina is what determines your staff damage (light and heavy attacks only), and your Magika is what determines your skills, regardless of class and what attribute it drains. Is this true? We need answers, please!
That would be *** stupid if Stamina determines Resto/Destro Staff dmg. It should be mana, since all it's abilities are mana based.
While the other stamina weapons abilities are based on Stamina as well as the actual weapon dmg itself.0 -
ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »Similar to its explosion, the volatile familiar's basic attacks scale based on the caster's maximum Magicka.
Thank you so much for the response! But is this attack registered with spell damage or regular damage? Te reason being is my current character was going to focus on lowering my opponents spell resistance to increase the damage by summons.
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Also what is the percentage of the users magicka that one basic lightning attack from a familiar does. In the spell description it says that the familiar does 15% damage" which is incredibly vague.Edited by 99LukeKBub17_ESO on April 23, 2014 9:14PM0 -
Gix✭✭✭✭
He clearly stated "maximum Magicka". So magical damage bonuses don't apply. Use "add X Magicka" instead.99LukeKBub17_ESO wrote: »ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »Similar to its explosion, the volatile familiar's basic attacks scale based on the caster's maximum Magicka.
Thank you so much for the response! But is this attack registered with spell damage or regular damage? Te reason being is my current character was going to focus on lowering my opponents spell resistance to increase the damage by summons.
With that said, it's a spell.
Edited by Gix on April 23, 2014 9:13PM0 -
ZOS_AmeliaR✭✭✭✭✭
Basic weapon attacks (light and heavy), regardless of weapon, are based on Stamina. Abilities will indicate in their tooltip what the cost is, and it will vary from one ability to another. Damage rendered by those are not necessarily based on cost. For instance, damage of spells increases based on maximum Magicka as well as spell damage, while weapon abilities are based on maximum Stamina and weapon damage.@ZOS_AmeliaR Is there some sort of calculator for this? Also, can we get a solid answer on what attributes power up which lines? I'm told that your Stamina is what determines your staff damage (light and heavy attacks only), and your Magika is what determines your skills, regardless of class and what attribute it drains. Is this true? We need answers, please!2 -
He clearly stated "maximum Magicka". So magical damage bonuses don't apply. Use "add X Magicka" instead.99LukeKBub17_ESO wrote: »ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »Similar to its explosion, the volatile familiar's basic attacks scale based on the caster's maximum Magicka.
Thank you so much for the response! But is this attack registered with spell damage or regular damage? Te reason being is my current character was going to focus on lowering my opponents spell resistance to increase the damage by summons.
With that said, it's a spell.
But certain morphs allow me to lower my opponents spell resistance. I'd like to know if this will affect the damage my summons do. I'm curious what negative affect I can put on an opponent that will cause y summons to do more damage. Aside from weakness to lightning
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NordJitsu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »
Basic weapon attacks (light and heavy), regardless of weapon, are based on Stamina.@ZOS_AmeliaR Is there some sort of calculator for this? Also, can we get a solid answer on what attributes power up which lines? I'm told that your Stamina is what determines your staff damage (light and heavy attacks only), and your Magika is what determines your skills, regardless of class and what attribute it drains. Is this true? We need answers, please!
Right.
But this part right here is silly.
Staff damage should be based on Magicka just like its abilities are.4 -
wookiefriseur✭✭✭✭Mystborn did some nice testing on stats and their effects, this might interest you:
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Custos91✭✭✭Is there actually a theorycrafting site, that can provide the neccesary information?
and @ZOS_AmeliaR
The staff working in the forums has different purposes i suppose?
So are you responsible for our questions to game mechanics and stats, and perhaps abbilitys and so on?Warden Main apparently... 7 Wardens currently, otherwise a healer of every class.
Mostly active in No CP PVP on EU, blaming the buffbot meta in pve.
I want to feel like I am saving somebodies life, not like I am carrying amunition for them...0 -
Amdirial✭✭@ZOS_AmeliaR if I am understanding your post then my Restoration Staff depends on my stamina for healing? not my Magicka or Spell Damage / Magic Damage ? Can I get some confirmation on this please0
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Kyosji✭✭✭ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »
Basic weapon attacks (light and heavy), regardless of weapon, are based on Stamina. Abilities will indicate in their tooltip what the cost is, and it will vary from one ability to another. Damage rendered by those are not necessarily based on cost. For instance, damage of spells increases based on maximum Magicka as well as spell damage, while weapon abilities are based on maximum Stamina and weapon damage.@ZOS_AmeliaR Is there some sort of calculator for this? Also, can we get a solid answer on what attributes power up which lines? I'm told that your Stamina is what determines your staff damage (light and heavy attacks only), and your Magika is what determines your skills, regardless of class and what attribute it drains. Is this true? We need answers, please!
So, for a sorc, a crystal blast will be based off my maximum Magicka, but my destruction staff skill like wall of elements is based of maximum Stamina, correct?0 -
Altheina✭✭✭While I understand that the light and heavy weapon attacks are based on stamina, is there anyway to know how much damage increase does stamina give to them(light and heavy attacks) as the weapon damage shown only factor in the damage of the weapon equipped?Altheina - Wood Elf Nightblade
TESO Fun-fact 1: It takes to kill 119,050 mudcrabs to reach level 50
TESO Fun-fact 2: There are 61 million items in the game
TESO Fun-fact 3: There are 40,656,000 different weapon variations in the game0 -
NordJitsu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »
Basic weapon attacks (light and heavy), regardless of weapon, are based on Stamina. Abilities will indicate in their tooltip what the cost is, and it will vary from one ability to another. Damage rendered by those are not necessarily based on cost. For instance, damage of spells increases based on maximum Magicka as well as spell damage, while weapon abilities are based on maximum Stamina and weapon damage.@ZOS_AmeliaR Is there some sort of calculator for this? Also, can we get a solid answer on what attributes power up which lines? I'm told that your Stamina is what determines your staff damage (light and heavy attacks only), and your Magika is what determines your skills, regardless of class and what attribute it drains. Is this true? We need answers, please!
So, for a sorc, a crystal blast will be based off my maximum Magicka, but my destruction staff skill like wall of elements is based of maximum Stamina, correct?
@Kyosji
Wrong. Wall of Elements will scale with maximum magicka. Your D-staff light and heavy attacks will scale with Stamina.0 -
Gix✭✭✭✭
Because the familiar is a spellcaster, he deals magical damage. You can only boost his damage output by increase your magicka pool, but you can certainly increase it's effectiveness by decreasing your opponent's spell resistance.99LukeKBub17_ESO wrote: »
He clearly stated "maximum Magicka". So magical damage bonuses don't apply. Use "add X Magicka" instead.99LukeKBub17_ESO wrote: »ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »Similar to its explosion, the volatile familiar's basic attacks scale based on the caster's maximum Magicka.
Thank you so much for the response! But is this attack registered with spell damage or regular damage? Te reason being is my current character was going to focus on lowering my opponents spell resistance to increase the damage by summons.
With that said, it's a spell.
But certain morphs allow me to lower my opponents spell resistance. I'd like to know if this will affect the damage my summons do. I'm curious what negative affect I can put on an opponent that will cause y summons to do more damage. Aside from weakness to lightning1 -
Because the familiar is a spellcaster, he deals magical damage. You can only boost his damage output by increase your magicka pool, but you can certainly increase it's effectiveness by decreasing your opponent's spell resistance.99LukeKBub17_ESO wrote: »
He clearly stated "maximum Magicka". So magical damage bonuses don't apply. Use "add X Magicka" instead.99LukeKBub17_ESO wrote: »ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »Similar to its explosion, the volatile familiar's basic attacks scale based on the caster's maximum Magicka.
Thank you so much for the response! But is this attack registered with spell damage or regular damage? Te reason being is my current character was going to focus on lowering my opponents spell resistance to increase the damage by summons.
With that said, it's a spell.
But certain morphs allow me to lower my opponents spell resistance. I'd like to know if this will affect the damage my summons do. I'm curious what negative affect I can put on an opponent that will cause y summons to do more damage. Aside from weakness to lightning
Thank you so much!! This, if correct, was the type of answer I've been looking for0 -
Grithok✭✭ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »
Basic weapon attacks (light and heavy), regardless of weapon, are based on Stamina. Abilities will indicate in their tooltip what the cost is, and it will vary from one ability to another. Damage rendered by those are not necessarily based on cost. For instance, damage of spells increases based on maximum Magicka as well as spell damage, while weapon abilities are based on maximum Stamina and weapon damage.@ZOS_AmeliaR Is there some sort of calculator for this? Also, can we get a solid answer on what attributes power up which lines? I'm told that your Stamina is what determines your staff damage (light and heavy attacks only), and your Magika is what determines your skills, regardless of class and what attribute it drains. Is this true? We need answers, please!
The dragon knight absorb spell scales off of max health.
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Kyosji✭✭✭ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »
Basic weapon attacks (light and heavy), regardless of weapon, are based on Stamina. Abilities will indicate in their tooltip what the cost is, and it will vary from one ability to another. Damage rendered by those are not necessarily based on cost. For instance, damage of spells increases based on maximum Magicka as well as spell damage, while weapon abilities are based on maximum Stamina and weapon damage.@ZOS_AmeliaR Is there some sort of calculator for this? Also, can we get a solid answer on what attributes power up which lines? I'm told that your Stamina is what determines your staff damage (light and heavy attacks only), and your Magika is what determines your skills, regardless of class and what attribute it drains. Is this true? We need answers, please!
So, for a sorc, a crystal blast will be based off my maximum Magicka, but my destruction staff skill like wall of elements is based of maximum Stamina, correct?
@Kyosji
Wrong. Wall of Elements will scale with maximum magicka. Your D-staff light and heavy attacks will scale with Stamina.
Yes, but Wall of Elements IS a Weapon Ability, so by AmeliaRs example, should be based on Stamina.. That's why I am asking for clarification from someone that would have a definite answer.
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Custos91✭✭✭@ZOS_AmeliaR
Yes, please, or have you just commented on this as a normal user and we are forced to search our way alone in the darkness, to find the secret hidden holy numbers of theorycrafting after we found out where to look for them?
Warden Main apparently... 7 Wardens currently, otherwise a healer of every class.
Mostly active in No CP PVP on EU, blaming the buffbot meta in pve.
I want to feel like I am saving somebodies life, not like I am carrying amunition for them...0 -
ZOS_AmeliaR✭✭✭✭✭@ZOS_AmeliaR if I am understanding your post then my Restoration Staff depends on my stamina for healing? not my Magicka or Spell Damage / Magic Damage ? Can I get some confirmation on this please
For all weapons, light and heavy attack damage scales based on Max Stamina and the weapon damage stat.
Abilities that come from weapon skill lines scale their damage/healing based on the weapon damage stat; abilities that come from non-weapon skill lines scale their damage/healing based on the Spell Damage stat. So, for example, your “Crystal Shard” spell causes more damage when you equip a ring that buffs Spell Damage and your “Grand Healing” ability heals for more when you upgrade your restoration staff.
Additionally, abilities that cost Magicka scale their damage/healing based of the Max Magicka stat; abilities that cost Stamina scale their damage/healing based off the Max Stamina stat. So, for example, the “Silver Bolts” ability causes more damage when you spend a point in Stamina and the “Healing Ritual” ability heals for more when you spend a point in Magicka.3 -
ZOS_AmeliaR✭✭✭✭✭
That's correct. Scaling based on Max Stamina only applies to damage and healing values. Things like duration, armor increases, etc., often scale in other ways (for instance, the example you provided). Hope this helps clarify!The dragon knight absorb spell scales off of max health.3 -
ZOS_AmeliaR✭✭✭✭✭
This ties into what's clarified a couple posts above. Both of these spells consume Magicka, so they both scale up in damage with increases to Max Magicka. Apologies if previous posts about this were confusing.So, for a sorc, a crystal blast will be based off my maximum Magicka, but my destruction staff skill like wall of elements is based of maximum Stamina, correct?4 -
Gunavar✭✭✭ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »
It really, really doesn't help clarify.
There should be indicators in game of how something scales so we aren't having to play "guess the stat that matters."
Edited by Gunavar on April 25, 2014 6:42PM1
