775,000 Subs

Ulvich

Since launch I have seen dozens of postings regarding the number of subs for ESO. Today I found a link that solves the mystery. It states that as of June ESO has about 775,000 subs.

I am posting this for those who may not already know.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-07-18-elder-scrolls-online-has-775-000-subscribers-report

Mondo

Sinking Boat posts inc

justin.sniesakub17_ESO

Nice find, checking it out now

nerevarine1138

From the article:
"It's not explicitly clear where the figure comes from..."

Yeah. That sounds reliable.

Csub

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

From the article:
"It's not explicitly clear where the figure comes from..."

Yeah. That sounds reliable.

It's on the Internets so it's true!

Neizir

If it's true, then that's actually quite a fantastic number. Especially considering how much ESO has gotten drenched in bad publicity.

ebondeath

For some reason I was thinking of sub sandwiches. Now I am disappointed.

I don't think I'd believe any number that wasn't announced by Zenimax, and at this point I don't trust anybody not to fudge with their own numbers.

AlexDougherty

Csub wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

From the article:
"It's not explicitly clear where the figure comes from..."

Yeah. That sounds reliable.

It's on the Internets so it's true!

According to the Internet I'm a structural engineer from south America, or at least that's what it told me fifteen years ago.

(In case it isn't clear, I'm neither)

kewl

As long as what is paid in, covers expenses and makes an acceptable profit.

Neizir wrote: »

If it's true, then that's actually quite a fantastic number. Especially considering how much ESO has gotten drenched in bad publicity.

Indeed. If the data is close approximation, it's encouraging.

Csub

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Csub wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

From the article:
"It's not explicitly clear where the figure comes from..."

Yeah. That sounds reliable.

It's on the Internets so it's true!

According to the Internet I'm a structural engineer from south America, or at least that's what it told me fifteen years ago.

(In case it isn't clear, I'm neither)

Maybe you just don't know it yet, but deep inside, you are. Both.

And yes, if the numbers are to be true, it's actually quite nice. Might get near a million with Steam sales.

pahajuju

Not a million but not bad really.
They'll just have to fix the problems we have encountered, make better content and transfer the server to Germany.

Mitrenga

If the information is accurate, we can say that 33% of the beta testers are still playing the game. From the marketing side, you may call it a success but it could have been way better. From the top management side, it's definitely a success. What was the target in the beginning, that's the important thing for ZOS.

All are assumptions ofc, based on the mentioned article.

Archaole

And should only get better when/if they start adding in more Elder Scrollsy stuff and keep adding end-game content to keep everyone happy. The bugs have been diminishing at a faster rate as of late. Well most of them. So the bad press should start making a turn for the better soon. Hopefully before the press stops caring about this game anyway.

ers101284b14_ESO

That's not far off from what I predicted we would be at after 3 months. The only problems with it are several points int he article.

"It's not explicitly clear where the figure comes from but SuperData's MMO earnings data is compiled from"

"Game-publisher Bethesda hasn't released sales or subscription data for The Elder Scrolls Online, and as its parent company ZeniMax Media is privately held, doesn't really have to."

"Only the PC version of The Elder Scrolls Online has been released so far, with PS4 and Xbox One versions to follow"

The game probably only needs 400-500k subs to profitable so this would put it up to being very successful. But I also would take it with a grain of salt and not believe those numbers either

Sindala

For a AAA game, that is bad. really bad.
Take into account a lot of those will be the 3 month subs peeps bought and have already bailed on the game.
The suit's will already be putting together their get out plans which usually consists of a large quick cash grab.
Anything below 1m for AAA game is a VERY bad thing for the gamers also as it means no Investment will be coming from the bean pushers.

UO still has 300k subs.....it's 17 years old now and run from basically a large house. A 3 month old game with 750k? *holds head in shame*

ers101284b14_ESO

Sindala wrote: »

For a AAA game, that is bad. really bad.
Take into account a lot of those will be the 3 month subs peeps bought and have already bailed on the game.
The suit's will already be putting together their get out plans which usually consists of a large quick cash grab.
Anything below 1m for AAA game is a VERY bad thing for the gamers also as it means no Investment will be coming from the bean pushers.

UO still has 300k subs.....it's 17 years old now and run from basically a large house. A 3 month old game with 750k? *holds head in shame*

Actually its not that bad. FF14 released on PC PS3 and PS4 and has around 400-500k subs and considered a huge success.

Armitas

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

From the article:
"It's not explicitly clear where the figure comes from..."

nerevarine1138

Armitas wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

From the article:
"It's not explicitly clear where the figure comes from..."

You win the thread. Your crown is in the mail.

steveb16_ESO46

If accurate it could be good or bad. If the break even point is a million subs it's bad.

If the figure was 1,200000 in May and projected to be 500,000 in November (when 6 month subs come up for renewal, it's bad.

Can't tell. Turns into a gross income of $46.5 million per annum. That doesn't seem that good as Aion was projected as $88 million last year in the linked article.

Edited to add - my maths looks totally screwy here. looks more like $135m which would be great. Hope it's true but if it's for June then it could represent a high-water mark as it includes 3 and 6 month subs that will have a level of non-renewal in them.

But looks optimistic.

kitsinni

I actually sounds a lot more optimistic than I think is ture.

BBSooner

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Sindala wrote: »

For a AAA game, that is bad. really bad.
Take into account a lot of those will be the 3 month subs peeps bought and have already bailed on the game.
The suit's will already be putting together their get out plans which usually consists of a large quick cash grab.
Anything below 1m for AAA game is a VERY bad thing for the gamers also as it means no Investment will be coming from the bean pushers.

UO still has 300k subs.....it's 17 years old now and run from basically a large house. A 3 month old game with 750k? *holds head in shame*

Actually its not that bad. FF14 released on PC PS3 and PS4 and has around 400-500k subs and considered a huge success.

Agreed. If ESO was in the ballpark of 775k subs then I would consider it in an incredibly healthy position.

purple-magicb16_ESO

I don't understand. Is that good or bad?

Madval

Nice number ! Fabulous !!!

ers101284b14_ESO

BBSooner wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Sindala wrote: »

For a AAA game, that is bad. really bad.
Take into account a lot of those will be the 3 month subs peeps bought and have already bailed on the game.
The suit's will already be putting together their get out plans which usually consists of a large quick cash grab.
Anything below 1m for AAA game is a VERY bad thing for the gamers also as it means no Investment will be coming from the bean pushers.

UO still has 300k subs.....it's 17 years old now and run from basically a large house. A 3 month old game with 750k? *holds head in shame*

Actually its not that bad. FF14 released on PC PS3 and PS4 and has around 400-500k subs and considered a huge success.

Agreed. If ESO was in the ballpark of 775k subs then I would consider it in an incredibly healthy position.

Yep especially with such a small team of only 250 workers. But also think about this for success. FF11 has lived on around 500k subs worldwide for over 10 years, FF14 has around 500k subs released on 3 systems worldwide and is considered a huge success. Dragon Quest X has 500k subs and only released in Japan.

So if ESO has 775k subs and its only been on PC then consoles will bump that up over a million (After the 3 month mark when the 3 month player base leaves)

Also Like I said I wouldn't take those numbers too seriously since they have no real hardcore number or any reference for where they got their numbers.

AlexDougherty

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

I don't understand. Is that good or bad?

Yes!

It's one or the other, but without a deeper understanding of ZOS's accounts and business plan we don't know which

TheBull

Seems about right. gogo ESO!

UPrime

8 years ago, an MMO with 100k subs was considered very successful. ESO has a bigger budget but still even with 750k subs, that still over $11 Mil per month. Not bad if you ask me.

So if the numbers are right or wrong I don't think it matters, the game is doing good. It's going to be doing good for at least the next 8+ years. Be it sub or F2P, it's not going anywhere.

Sallington

Anything 300k-500k is extremely healthy for an MMO these days, in my opinion.

Especially considering the attention span of most people that try MMO after MMO, constantly talking about how disappointing everything is.

Sotha_Sil

I think the exact number of subs is 1,234,254 ! There ! I said it ! Place you bets !

demonlkojipub19_ESO

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Sindala wrote: »

For a AAA game, that is bad. really bad.
Take into account a lot of those will be the 3 month subs peeps bought and have already bailed on the game.
The suit's will already be putting together their get out plans which usually consists of a large quick cash grab.
Anything below 1m for AAA game is a VERY bad thing for the gamers also as it means no Investment will be coming from the bean pushers.

UO still has 300k subs.....it's 17 years old now and run from basically a large house. A 3 month old game with 750k? *holds head in shame*

Actually its not that bad. FF14 released on PC PS3 and PS4 and has around 400-500k subs and considered a huge success.

400-500k subs, but THEY say thay have "Over 2 Million Players". Where does the 400-500k subs come from?

Sindala

Lol, you can all word it how you want. For a brand new AAA MMO only 3 months old....it's bad.