No more short skirts and stuff!!

deepseamk20b14_ESO

People wear short skirts....what’s it to you? People also wear wedding gowns and chefs costumes in PvP? Who made you boss of what people want to wear? No one needs white knights...people also role play. That stuff isn’t for me, but it is for others. You want ESO sharia law or something lol? You against kilts too? Where does it stop?

Tyrion87

If you don't like it, don't buy/wear them! But don't tell others how they should look like. My look is my business only. If I want to wear a costume with a chest exposed, I will. Go with your RP reasons somewhere else.

Vanthras79

Tapio75 wrote: »

I like women with less clothing but please just keep the ESO like TES should be, reasonable armor that actually looks like it can protect the player.

Just wait until those skirts become skorts

Joy_Division

ZoS,

Please stop making options that other people might appreciate. Only offer stuff that I find immersive, realistic, and pleasing.

Thank You.

Swiftii

I like the new costumes (except for the failure of including shoes in the dye-ing) PERIOD and they are way overdue. Though I would like some longer dresses that are period and area based.

DocFrost72

Samadhi wrote: »

and if my Bosmer is strung out on skooma and tanking naked feeling no pain in a dungeon
ur just gonna have to call the guards 'cause she don't give a ***

Take an awesome and have a great day for that mental image.

MasterLenman

Why is this new? Short skirts have been available since forever:
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/item/299

Trinity_Is_My_Name

Are you kidding? Give us bathing suits and string Bikini's!

emilyhyoyeon

It's also probably important to note that the skimpy costumes are from Valenwood, Black Marsh, (and Hammerfell I guess if you consider the puffy pants outfits skimpy). The casual wear for these cultures makes sense to be skimpy. Even the boob cutouts of the dunmer costumes make sense for reasons like that dunmer are particularly promiscuous (or maybe they just don't view breasts in the same way culturally).

Even though it isn't worded so, OP apparently takes issue with the fact that these skimpy outfits/non-armor can be worn in combat (FTR I don't), not that these types of cultural costumes exist. Maybe the best that can be done is add more combat costumes (like armors).

Kiralyn2000

Trinity_Is_My_Name wrote: »

Are you kidding? Give us bathing suits and string Bikini's!

Now, see, that's interesting. I've happily played Eastern MMO lingerie-fests, love dressing my Star Trek characters in their summer swimwear, and the clothing mods I've downloaded for Skyrim/Fallout/etc are nothing short of absurd . And I like the revealing costumes that ZOS have released in this game. But actual bikini-type outfits in ESO would just feel wrong to me somehow. Wouldn't fit the style/aesthetic/setting, perhaps? Unless, of course, they somehow managed to make it fit.


(on skimpy 'armor' in general.... I grew up on the fantasy art of the 60s-90s. Frazetta, Vallejo, Parkinson, Elmore, et al. The stuff that showed up on fantasy novels, early-edition D&D, etc. Sure, it may not be 'realistic', but to me, it's very much a part of the Fantasy Adventure genre. East or West. /shrug)

Ectheliontnacil

@Samadhi

Samadhi wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

@Samadhi

Just a joke, take it lightly^^

No offense intended, but who are you again?

Without the quote chain of posts it is, at times, difficult for me to keep track of who is who in a thread

I was the one who said SJWs were now defending skimpy attire. Anyway just a corny joke and while I implied it,I do not honestly believe you are a SJW . I simply found the discussion in this thread to be quite amusing and was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't just triggered whiteknights spamming hate to the devs XD.

Ciovala

I don’t care, it’s not like a full set of light armour is protecting me from anything but sunburn anyway. . The whole costume system is obviously unrealistic, but I’m having fun. To each his or her own.

KramUzibra

Tapio75 wrote: »

My opinion of armpor has nothing to do with womens right to choose what they wear. As a Green party member in my country, i am strongly towards full equity and same rights regardless of person being male, female or other.

What i am trying to talk about here, is that women in Tamriel have right for protective wear that prevents injury and possibly death in battle with swords and in terms of reasonable fantasy realism, limited magickal protection that allows mages to wear cloth robes instead of armors nad those sneaky ones , leather that does not prevent pointy swords to slay them or mashing maces to bash their heads, nut protecxt them while they roll dodge in a ground from those weapons

I also understand that realism is somewhat far fetched subject in these games as we e to be realistic damage vise but at least i can wish the game to look like people are actually caring about their well being.


My wiev of clothing hen adventuring is different from what i see as a "battle standard". I too, wear nowmal clothes at home and when doing business in cities and if people wish to wear skimpy stuff in these places when they are not adventuring,

One thing w also might consider is, that we are characters in Tamriel, in Nirn.. Not people in Earth while we play. At least some of us play as characters in Tamriel

And they can still wear costumes that appear functional in battle. Leave the choice to the wearer.

Alchemical

>Argonians finally get some new costumes
>People complain that it looks too slutty on their elves

Go eat a big pile of mud

iiYuki

I'm still waiting for the CBBE Big Bouncing Boobs mod.

klowdy1

I can't imagine in the entire world, with all climates considered, someone wouldn't be wea4ing something like this. ESO opens up many avenues for roll playing, which includes town cloths. Some people like to log on and sit in the cities, doing whatever roll players of that nature do. It doesn't seem fair they aren't allowed to dress up how they like when doing so, simply because you have a problem with it. No need to punish everyone for your hangups.

KochDerDamonen

Samadhi wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

And maybe some girls but i think women are more about stuff that makes sense unlike small boys

Maybe some girls? lol I know plenty of chicks... who play this game... who love this ***, myself included and Im no spring chicken either. Its just a costume, hell Mazzatun is pretty skimpy and its actual armor - cant wait to buy it eventually. Not every woman feels the need to cover herself up, also they are just characters - pixels man, they are just pixels! Let them be freeeeee

Personally hold distaste for the sentiment that we are 'about' particular fashion decisions,
and that skimpy clothing exists to cater to the male fantasy complex

it reinforces the sentiment that the female body is simply only ever exposed to be put on display for men
and that a woman cannot wear something 'fun' without it being about appealing to men, rather than for her own enjoyment

We need some men's shirts + short skirt combos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg

The girls need a break, tonight we're gonna take
The chance to get out on the town
We don't need romance, we only wanna dance
We're gonna let our hair hang down

A new dawn is upon us, now it's SJWs and not "misogynist" guys who defend skimpy attire! XD

Feminism and a woman's freedom to choose what is right for her and her body have gone hand in hand since before 'SJWs' came around

but also do not count as an SJW either
have no vested interest in stopping someone from expressing his or her views about my choices,
am university educated from the days before the push for safe spaces,
and value discourse and the free expression of ideas as the most powerful capacity of a free society

also grew up in the prairies -- hunting geese and deer for food, and riding horses for fun
so am the pro-gun gal in other debates

do sometimes get labeled as an SJW when defending First Nation's rights and traditional values and lifestyles in Canada tho

People deserve to be free to tell me my attire is ugly, impractical, or 'unimmersive'
people should not be seeking control over what is available for me to wear to ensure my adherence to what they feel is 'proper' for a woman
similarly tho, prolly would not be playing ESO if chainmail bikinis were the only option made available to me

@Samadhi @Ectheliontnacil Best to keep separate the term 'SJW' and any sort of choice-positive thoughts/changes that were made before their time, they would love to wrap their tendrils around it and pretend they were the cause of it all along whilst simultaneously preaching the exact opposite.

M_Volsung

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

I like women with less clothing but please just keep the ESO like TES should be, reasonable armor that actually looks like it can protect the player.

Whoah whoah whoah. If my girl wants to show some skin and slay men and monsters, it's my characters right to do so.

If it had been possible, my girl would have taken down Molag Bal wearing just the Nordic bathing towel.

megnin

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Stania wrote: »

The only problem I have with all this is:
Skimpy, tighter or sexy outfits = intended for females.
Covers a lot more, loose. Recycled from the recycled parts of other costumes = intended for males.

The only "revealing clothes" for males are the pirate outfit which has those McHammer pants and the argonian one, which has a skirt (way longer than it's female new version, no surprise).

Come on, ZoS, some of us wish we don't have to cross-dress our males characters in order for them to wear tighter clothes or show more of their tattoos and anatomy too (the Balmora costume looks good on males with athletic bodytypes, but is still too "feminine"). If you're going to break your lore-friendliness and modesty rules, do it for both sexes equally.

There are some armor motifs that show quite a bit. I think minotaur, but it might be a different one.

Is this the style you're thinking of? It's Mazzatun. Craftable.

ADarklore

Stania wrote: »

The only problem I have with all this is:
Skimpy, tighter or sexy outfits = intended for females.
Covers a lot more, loose. Recycled from the recycled parts of other costumes = intended for males.

The only "revealing clothes" for males are the pirate outfit which has those McHammer pants and the argonian one, which has a skirt (way longer than it's female new version, no surprise).

Come on, ZoS, some of us wish we don't have to cross-dress our males characters in order for them to wear tighter clothes or show more of their tattoos and anatomy too (the Balmora costume looks good on males with athletic bodytypes, but is still too "feminine"). If you're going to break your lore-friendliness and modesty rules, do it for both sexes equally.

I'm tired of every skimpy male outfit covering the navel area... hence the reason I'm working to collect all the Mazzatun motifs.

emilyhyoyeon

klowdy1 wrote: »

I can't imagine in the entire world, with all climates considered, someone wouldn't be wea4ing something like this.

yeah exactly. Argonian culture is even centered around central native americans ie. Black Marsh, while mostly swamp, is probably somewhat inspired by central american climate (temperature, at the very least).

As someone who wears similar clothing for casual relaxation during the summer and as pajamas, the style is also just comfortable too. From my experience people (on Earth) do wear clothing like these argonian outfits. This style isn't absurd in casual settings either. In any game, it's just the player's choice if he wants to dress his characters in any kind of casual clothing for a noncasual situation like combat. I like dressing my characters in combat clothing for combat and casual clothing for casual settings, but I don't care if other people don't.

Hallothiel

Agree with giving male chars more options for showing off tats.

And this is something that really bugs me - why on earth have skins & some gorgeous tats in the game that you can't bloody well see! My dk is running around semi-naked not because I'm a show off but because she has beautiful golden tattoos that I want to see! Why would I chose them otherwise?

swippy

megnin wrote: »

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Stania wrote: »

The only problem I have with all this is:
Skimpy, tighter or sexy outfits = intended for females.
Covers a lot more, loose. Recycled from the recycled parts of other costumes = intended for males.

The only "revealing clothes" for males are the pirate outfit which has those McHammer pants and the argonian one, which has a skirt (way longer than it's female new version, no surprise).

Come on, ZoS, some of us wish we don't have to cross-dress our males characters in order for them to wear tighter clothes or show more of their tattoos and anatomy too (the Balmora costume looks good on males with athletic bodytypes, but is still too "feminine"). If you're going to break your lore-friendliness and modesty rules, do it for both sexes equally.

There are some armor motifs that show quite a bit. I think minotaur, but it might be a different one.

Is this the style you're thinking of? It's Mazzatun. Craftable.

careful, there's like a scary-looking monster right behind you there

bellatrixed

I think most of these threads are made by guys who can't comprehend that women play video games.

Like, there's always the stereotype that it's men dressing up female characters going "hurr dur boobs" but everyone I know who bought this costume is an IRL woman.

MMOs tend to be a form of escapism, most people want their characters to look awesome and some people want their characters to look sexy. Gasp, shock, horror.

I'm fine with this costume but personally I want more long classy dresses with cleavage. Make it so ZOS!

SisterGoat

You know what Spartans wore when they ran into battle? SKIRTS.

Insandros

Tapio75 wrote: »

I like women with less clothing but please just keep the ESO like TES should be, reasonable armor that actually looks like it can protect the player.

Town people are not all in armor and lots of costume are NPC wearing them which are not always going to battle.

programcanaan

SisterGoat wrote: »

You know what Spartans wore when they ran into battle? SKIRTS.

Revealing warriors are great! But only if they look tough. Non ripped warriors that want to be revealing should be Magi mostly maybe archer.

Like when some 1/4 dressed Bosmer thinks she can swing around a Greatsword that likely weighs more than she does. Eyeroll

Jaraal

ADarklore wrote: »

I'm tired of every skimpy male outfit covering the navel area... hence the reason I'm working to collect all the Mazzatun motifs.

Hallothiel wrote: »

Agree with giving male chars more options for showing off tats.

And this is something that really bugs me - why on earth have skins & some gorgeous tats in the game that you can't bloody well see! My dk is running around semi-naked not because I'm a show off but because she has beautiful golden tattoos that I want to see! Why would I chose them otherwise?

My main runs around everywhere in his bycocket and towel!

Cronopoly

Tapio75 wrote: »

I read somewhere, that one can use costumes and motifs in making an outfit and even if outfit system does not support costumes, the costume slot will overwrite any armor looks so its still the same. I dont mind options but as the world is allready full of skimpy nonsense MMO's, i dont think ESO will need to follow on that path.

If i want to see skimpy, i play WOW or AION.

Serious question...Why does this bother you so much? Is this a personal insecurity that you want to request ZOS cave to to placate your personal lense of "How things should be"?

Please don't take offense, but this is not Conan which had full out Nudity or other MMO's which had sexy Lace and other revealing under garments, and showed way more skin.

Wreuntzylla

Jade1986 wrote: »

I actually go into town, find a room or dark alley, lol, and change into a costume at times. Im just wierd like that tho.

Superman? Where have you been!