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So... about that patch.

RinaldoGandolphi
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a 12 GB incremental patch?

Can we please have a proper diff patching system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_(Unix)

you generate a patch and a diff file, then the client downloads the diff file, and then only downloads the files that have been changed according to the diff...

12 GB is a bit excessive for a patch. At the very least, you could use the 7zip library to compress these files before their downloaded and uncompress them on the client.

the 7zip LZMA SDK is in the public domain, there is no excuse for not compressing these files and decompressing them on the client.

http://www.7-zip.org/sdk.html

12 GB is more space then the entire Windows Operating System + Office...thats insane for a single incremental patch....we might as well throw the baby out with the bath water and just redownload the whole game every time you do an incremental update...

All i ask is, could you please take some of this into consideration...12 Gb is a bit excessive for a patch, especially when open source tools such LZMA SDK is open source you could use to help alleviate this a bit, while also using a proper diff patching system. Thank you for taking the time to accept my feedback, still love the game! :)
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  • dharbert
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    I'll say the same thing I have in other threads on this subject. Zenimax either can't (for whatever reason) do a proper incremental patch and update only affected files, or they simply lack the ability and know-how to do it.
  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    Mine was only 6 gigs but yeah its quite a bit. Glad I bought a 2 terabyte hard drive.
  • infraction2008b16_ESO
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    They're amateurs at best.

    I've just cancelled my sub due to this, I'm not going to sit and waste my paying days downloading 12 GB of nothing much.
  • SoulScream
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    I agree! 12 gig is taking the entire day to download for me.
  • clayandaudrey_ESO
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    Especially sucks on dial-up
  • Gilvoth
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    They're amateurs at best.

    I've just cancelled my sub due to this, I'm not going to sit and waste my paying days downloading 12 GB of nothing much.


    seriously? because to be honest this is not outside the norm in the mmo's ive played. there was allways seemingly long waits or large patches from time to time.
    this isnt totaly out of whack with the norm in mmo's. infact i would say eso is better in many many ways and tbh the best mmo on the market.
  • lecarcajou_ESO
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    The problem is that... the patches—they do nuthink!
    Edited by lecarcajou_ESO on November 24, 2014 7:14PM
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  • Gythral
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    They're amateurs at best.

    I've just cancelled my sub due to this, I'm not going to sit and waste my paying days downloading 12 GB of nothing much.

    Stop insulting amateurs !!!
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  • flotsam
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    Mine downloaded a 6 GB 59to60 patch and is now downloading a 6 GB 61to62 patch. Guess I'll just wait it out.
  • Nylan
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    go outside
  • Pmarsico9
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    It's ridiculous how long downloads take. Even after going through all their diagnosis, other games have nowhere near as long to download.
  • HomerSamson
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    The launcher said 90% after it d/l'd and installed the first 6GB. Closed the launcher and ran ESO.exe and it had the proper version 1.5.6 and let me in game.
  • Slurg
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    I look forward to getting home from work and seeing if my computer took the patch or if it crashed because I wasn't there to watch it. Then I look forward to enjoying all the new combat noises the patch unintentionally introduced instead of taking away as announced in another thread.

    Then I will look forward to doing the exact same thing next week when they fix the audio again.
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  • Sighlynce
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    12 gbs for a patch... seriously :s . I mean dang how big is the Justice system 'patch' gonna be?? My entire months gb allowance is 10 per month (satellite) and 19.99 per gb after that. This is kinda insane :( . Good thing my new sat. co gives free downloads from midnight till 5am.
    Edited by Sighlynce on November 24, 2014 7:37PM
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  • SoulScream
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    I would go outside but it's a freezing snow rain here. A good day for playing some game. Really wish I could get faster internet. About four hours still left for me on the download.
  • smacx250
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    I think it is likely it is a 3rd party patching system (and probably used by other game vendors as well). From the launcher (which does the patching):

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    http://www.solidstatenetworks.com

  • elausche_ESO
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    seriously? because to be honest this is not outside the norm in the mmo's ive played. there was allways seemingly long waits or large patches from time to time.
    this isnt totaly out of whack with the norm in mmo's. infact i would say eso is better in many many ways and tbh the best mmo on the market.

    I call BS on this. Most game patches take 1-2 minutes at most and only the major version changes ever break 1gb in download size. Every single patch for ESO is 6GB or larger, even small fixes like this one.

    Zenimax needed to come up with a proper patch solution 7 months ago.
  • Ilmarthethief
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    Don't you think there is some more content in this patch? Parts of Imperial City for instance?
    No patches - bad, there are patches - very bad. People, stop whining!
    They're amateurs at best.
    I've just cancelled my sub due to this, I'm not going to sit and waste my paying days downloading 12 GB of nothing much.
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  • Mettaricana
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    i'd complain but they deleted my comments last time....
  • Robocles
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    They're amateurs at best.

    I've just cancelled my sub due to this, I'm not going to sit and waste my paying days downloading 12 GB of nothing much.


    seriously? because to be honest this is not outside the norm in the mmo's ive played. there was allways seemingly long waits or large patches from time to time.
    this isnt totaly out of whack with the norm in mmo's. infact i would say eso is better in many many ways and tbh the best mmo on the market.

    Name one MMO with regular multi gigabyte patches?

    Seriously.. I've played most of them, and, none have ever been like this.

    So, give us some examples.
  • Samadhi
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    My internet bill this month is going to be doubled just due to the download traffic for updates and patches.

    Would have preferred to wait a week for a patch this size.

    C'est la vie.
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  • someuser
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    Wow, ZoS, this is really sub par customer service.

    I don't like the 12+gb major patch days, but I deal with it cause we are getting substantial content (albeit buggy and requiring multiple additional patches to get it working as intended only to start all over, as once you finally get it right, its time for a whole 'nother major patch and corresponding bugs...)

    But 12gbs for the insignificant changes that offer NO substantial content???

    Very unhappy customer here.
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  • Draxys
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    yea this is abnormal, going on 2 hours patch for me and it still says downloading 5 more gigs.... I wouldn't have a problem with it if the patches actually fixed lots of the things that need it
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  • Samadhi
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    someuser wrote: »
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    But 12gbs for the insignificant changes that offer NO substantial content???

    Very unhappy customer here.

    After reading the patch notes, am rather confused as to why the patch is so large.

    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom or @ZOS_GinaBruno or anyone else, could we get some light shone on whether the patches are supposed to be this large due to content, or if there is some issue with the launcher?
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  • Buck
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    Seriously how does a "patch" get this big? Skyrim = 7GB lol did we just get an expansion?
  • Silver-Sabre
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    Got home from work only to realize I won't be playing for a long long time..!! Disappointed .. Rather play a slightly broken game than having to download the equivalent of all of NASA's files .. Unreal!!
  • Morticide828
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    As you can see by it chasing its tail - the patch team is now confirmed for playing snake instead of any QA.

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  • Merlin13KAGL
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    It's fixing what was mentioned, plus updating every boss, etc.

    Given the success of 1.5.3, they probably figure it's safer to download the bulk of the data files rather than a bit here and a bit there.

    At least that way, they know what they are working with (it's not a partial image), and hopefully they tested before deployment.

    Imperial City might be getting snuck in there in the background, too...or non-PTS testing that we won't see.

    I'll get the vegetables thrown at me and say maybe this will be a good thing.

    It's gotta change somewhere in there, right...by the sheer random factor, if nothing else.

    After all, broken watch is right twice a day...
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • andrewsleonrwb17_ESO
    It might be 6, it might be 12, we never know until it's over. This is just ridiculous. I'm sorry Zenimax, I like the game but there are others I want to play that don't kill my internet allowance. Gonna have to unsub for now.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Hey guys,

    While you will need to download 12GB for today’s patch, the exceptionally large size was unintentional and is not typical for an incremental patch. While preparing for today’s maintenance, we needed a second build internally to fix an issue we encountered. Unfortunately, this means you are actually downloading both builds which is required for today’s patch to run. In the meantime, we do have a couple workarounds that you can try that may be faster and not as large:
    1. Cancel the patch and run a repair instead, or…
    2. Delete the folder titled “vo_en” and restart the launcher.
    We apologize for the inconvenience that this is causing, and will do everything we can to ensure it won’t happen again in the future.
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