Well if its not for you move to another game then...a lot of people including myself enjoy it.

And if you have constructive criticism, post your ideas - everyone wants to see the game become even better.

But just negative ranting isnt useful for anything besides your own confirmation bias.

Erinyes_60 wrote: »

The performance is bad. The pvp is horribly balanced. And the PVE is generic.

How long time have you played ESO? ESO might not be perfect, but it does have different game modes (PVP - Imperial City; Cyrodiil, Battle ground which is 3 game mode each with its own system for reward and type of players). In PvE you have story, quest and exploration where you can find housing and achievement as main goal if that is your thing.

For dungeons, you have normal and veteran dungeons where your group can decide to do final boss in normal mode and hard mode. Trail which can have up to 12 players and also have different difficulty.

All in all it is up to you what you find interesting.

Balance in most MMO will always be a question about what game mode that is your main focus (in particular when you use same gear and character for both PvE and PvP modes) and isn't possible to find a perfect balance without creating a very stale game over time (as that would mean no changes and no new items in form of gear, features like scribing or subclassing would be possible to be added as game would then be forced to be tweaked until most players would agree that there is a balance in every mode that is connected in game through the use of same character that can access everything in game).

Atleast point out that half the daily playercount is probably people logging in to do writs and other monotonous daily chores instead of actually playing the gameplay.

Here's the thing about ESO: What ZOS does poorly, they do VERY poorly. But what they do well, they do AMAZINGLY well.

The things they do well happen to be things I value more than the things they do poorly. Doesn't mean those things don't matter to me. Doesn't mean I don't get irritated, even legitimately upset at how bad the bad in this game is. In fact, the fact that they're SO good at what they do well makes the problems seem that much worse.

I probably dislike a lot of the same things OP dislikes. PVP is almost platonically unbalanced. Combat, especially since hybridization, spellcrafting, and subclassing were allowed into the game, is becoming painfully, dully homogenized. The fact that I can have an enemy tab-targeted, in my reticle, and be right in front of me and I still can't get a heavy attack to fire off is indefensibly bad. I just happen to love the stuff I love more than I hate any of that.

I, at least, could certainly rate the game very highly while also being extremely critical of it. There's no real conflict there.

Your opinion doesn't invalidate others. You seem to dislike everything about ESO. If that's the case, then it's probably best to find a game you do like.

There are plenty of legitimate things to criticize ESO about. I am not saying they're not. Some of things they do poorly are done really poorly. But a person can have serious issues with something and still have an overall positive and high view.

I'm going to review dungeons in ESO as an example....

Story writing 10/10 no notes. Some of the best stories in the game are in the dungeons.

Team work - 8/10 There are interesting group mechanics and the harder modes are interesting and varied. But people can too easily get in each other's way by doing things like forcing someone else to skip quests because they bug out if someone that isn't you runs ahead.

Rewards -2/10 There is little incentive to play harder modes and most of the rewards in dungeons are stale and repetitive.

Mechanics- 10/10 every dungeon has unique engagements and they keep them fresh and interesting for the most part.

Accessibility - 8/10 There's no story mode. Some of the boss attacks are hard to read or poorly telegraphed. Some of the tells are small and difficult to see for people with low vision. Audio cues for important attacks can be similarly poor. But, the normal mode is forgiving enough that these issues are minimized and most people can still easily complete them using the activity finder.

So my overall score is 38/50 or 76%. On a 5 star rating system, the closest to that would be 4/5 stars. One a 1-10 scale, that rounds to 8/10. Both very good ratings.

So, as you can see, I'm pointing out some serious flaws with their dungeons. Anyone who dug into that review would see some areas for improvement, some serious issues, and that I think they're doing absolutely abysmally when it comes to rewards. Yet, they'd also see there are things I very much enjoy and that for me those good things outweigh the bad stuff.

Overall, when I put real thought into dungeons, even breaking down into categories, ESO gets a very a good overall score.

I could do this for the entire game. I like the game more than I dislike it or I would not be playing it. It is completely possible to find parts of the game completely flawed and broken and still have a positive opinion of the overall game. It depends on the weight you give those things and your overall enjoyment levels. If the good doesn't outweigh the bad for you, it's probably time to move on to greener pastures.

Orbital78 wrote: »

WoW is very popular, I don't like it. It must be overrated. Joking aside, ESO has plenty of room for improvement. IMO it is still one of the better MMOs in the genre. Player counts and accounts ever played are likely very off compared to "active" player counts. One person might have 3+ accounts on various platforms, many accounts have been given out for free, etc.

I've never really been into MMOs, TESO is my main one by default, mainly because I refuse that principle that you have to pay just to play (dunno if it's still the case for WoW but it has been know for that).
With TESO you just buy any content you want (even with ingame gold from crowns sellers !) and that's it, go free little bird. I love it.

Asikoo wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

Well if its not for you move to another game then...a lot of people including myself enjoy it.

And if you have constructive criticism, post your ideas - everyone wants to see the game become even better.

But just negative ranting isnt useful for anything besides your own confirmation bias.

What constructive ideas did you give here? None. You just did the same thing you accused him of, criticizing without adding anything. The difference is, he spoke the truth about the current state of the game, while you only tried to dismiss him and put yourself above others.

I’d rather hear from people who are honest about how bad the game is right now than from players who spend their time criticizing other players instead of the game. The community needs voices unafraid to call things as they are, not ones trying to silence them. To silence players, we already have moderation, banning people just for saying the truth about how bad this game has become.

The difference is that this thread has been posted to criticize and insult TESO, not to defend it. The attacker needs to uphold their opinion with arguments, not the defenders. "If you really hate TESO, no one is forcing you to play, now please have a good day far from us" is a perfectly acceptable answer.

Thread is being closed by moderation for perfectly good reasons (it's unconstructive and going nowhere) in three, two, one...