Correction: 16:40 GMT not EST.

WHY IS THIS NOT BEING LOOKED IN TO!? The Game Still Kicks you i you try to do anything with a certain number of people around!

The problem for me occurs almost always after I have sprinted on my mount a long distance to get to a large battle. Could be me misremembering or forgetting some but it seems often to be when the outer wall is breached when I arrive that I have problems with disconnect.

It looks like your graphical settings are too high. Try starting your way up from minimal settings to see if that improves the situation.

Hasn't happened to me for a while now. Last couple of times it did happen I would find myself back near where I started rather than at the keep where the battle was. Also a few times I would get to the fight but would be the only one moving. A reloadui would disconnect me so I could join again. Usually quite a ways back from the keep.
So at least in my case I'm thinking the area isn't loading as I travel through it and that causes the problem for me. Not sure if slowing down would help. Gotta rush to the battle so I can become a nice looking corpse!

Adernath wrote: »

It looks like your graphical settings are too high. Try starting your way up from minimal settings to see if that improves the situation.

Or something else local. They lost connection to the server, which is why the game still considered them logged in. That is not even kicking the player back to the lobby. The rubberbanding often occurs when there is an issue with the client connection to the server, which can be located anywhere from the PC/console to game servers and potentially hundreds of points in between.

If it were due to a large number of players actively fighting at a keep, something that has happened for years and used to be in more significant numbers, then many, it not most, of the players at that location would have been kicked out before the OP even arrived. It would be more like what @p00tx described.

PC NA. i asked in zone and it has been happening to others too.

doabhi wrote: »

PC NA. i asked in zone and it has been happening to others too.

Yeah local connection issues can be ruled out. There have been many times that I have been kicked and it has happened to others at the same time.

It’s usually when either ball groups or the hammer, or both are nearby.

Dolman groups i'm usually okay doing, i farmed that just yesterday actually and it was a fairly eventless grind. FPS was on average between 40-80 which is normal, it'd sometimes dip below that but that's always been the case for me. In the years i've been playing ESO on the same rig though this issue of being booted to character selection or "An error occured" followed by "your account is already logged in" is something that's only been happening with consistency in the last couple of patches, and despite the variability involved it's very reproducible.

In cyrodiil i see an average ping of 180 to 220 which given my distance from the server isn't unexpected (Though higher than my actual ICMP ping to the server IP which is closer to 120) That shoots up to 300-800 if more than 40 people are around me though, but my frame rate doesn't suffer too horribly and stays above 30, the game however begins to suffer greatly as if it's waiting for data but not receiving any.

given that the game uses UDP and not TCP, the data stream for events is susceptible to packet loss, so sadly this is to be expected, however it's only recently been such a prevalent issue that it causes the client to return to login screen with an unhanded error state message.

Thus my OP of "Something in the core game code needs to change" Either fix the underlying issue at hand that's causing the potato performance, or better code the client to handle these cases where desync becomes too great due to missing events from the data stream (E.g ditch data that is too old instead of trying to display it and only display the most recent frames) it might increase the rubberbanding a little, but that can only be fixed by re-thinking the core infrastructure the servers are actually hosted on. I'd take a bit of rubberbanding over being booted to lobby every 2 minutes.

Amottica wrote: »

If it were due to a large number of players actively fighting at a keep, something that has happened for years and used to be in more significant numbers, then many, it not most, of the players at that location would have been kicked out before the OP even arrived. It would be more like what @p00tx described.

That happens a lot too. All of a sudden many people are gone and they all start trickling back a minute or two later complaining they lost connection. This is preceded by crazy high ping spikes in the red.

still happening today with large DC Ballgroups taking full advantage of it. nobody can defend the keeps because they're being booted all the damn time. absolute waste of time and money this game is turning out to be.

I have checked everything on my end. I've disabled all addons, i've turned everything in graphics off and to low. My FPS remains stable, yet the game stammers and stutters about with lag and eventual kicks to login screen, i'm about at my wits end with this and i'm forced to be left feeling like the studio behind it just wants my money and really wants to make full use of that 'offers no guarantee of service' clause in their TOS. (Yes i did read it)

While it is amazing to see large groups going at it - 40v40 etc - the lag is ridiculous.

I have a pretty stout gaming PC (Ryzen 7 5800x, 3060ti 8gb, 64gb DDR4 3800, 2tb ssd) and no problem usually 150-200fps even in Cyro but when Hammer, Scroll, Emp, or large zergs are on me, especially in super high pop campaigns like Gray Host, even I get down to like 10fps and the interface lag (time between you hitting a skill and it actually firing) is nuts. As someone who is mostly a PvP healer, it's frustrating being stuck there watching people die and then your heals finally start hitting like 5-10 seconds later, by which time you're already dead to a delayed prox bomber or to plaguebreak procs, or boneyard/harmony, etc. Forget about any kind of DPS, it's just not going to happen.

One thought that I had was if ZOS could build some sort of logic into the game to automatically reduce particle and sound effects on screen scaling with the number of players present within range of each other, that might help somewhat. I think the game's engine and servers simply cannot handle trying to deal with sound and graphics for 80-100 players on screen at once, all spamming their abilities, and proc sets going off all around that.

Oakenaxe wrote: »

Constant crashing seems to be returning now. Performance got a little better in the recent past but seems to be worsening once again. I know it gets worse when there are bigger fights/bigger groups, but we can't blame ball groups for this (they lag and crash too). This is not players's fault, this is a performance problem.

Likely related to the constant calculations necessary for the new sets: Nocturnal's Ploy and Mara's Balm. Also, consider that with most players running Oakensoul in Cyro that that's now 17 buffs per player to have to calculate, whereas the vast majority who don't run it (or everybody before it was introduced) never have 17 separate buffs active at one time. Now consider the big announcement they made about the performance improvement of nerfing the little used Prismatic Onslaught glyph from having to check for undead and daedra on each proc, and you can see how it's a problem.

OBJnoob wrote: »

Actually I would think oakensoul makes for less calculations not more. Its not like you can't get these buffs elsewhere. Having them constantly is probably simpler than having them for 20 seconds and then having to recast.

Recasting a skill is one calculation. But having to calculate 17 different modifiers per tick of incoming and outgoing damage and healing is a lot of calculations. And I guarantee you nobody in Cyro that doesn't run Oakensoul has 17 different buffs on them at once, unless they are in an organized group.