Was the arena fun? Which was your favorite part, and why?
This is probably the best piece of content you have ever put out.
This is the best content you have ever put out. That last boss is amazing. The arenas look beautiful. The mechanics are vaired and intereting.

You have hit the nail on the head with this one. The amount of secrets and stuff there is to explore is really great.

The last boss has to be the best, if you wanted a satisfying end to your dark heart of skyrim, well you have it right there.

Did you complete the entire arena
Yes, I must have cleared it ~20 times on vet thus far, and don't plan on stopping.

I am looking forward to the week two buffs that I would believe are coming. There are just too many things that seem like they should one shot that just don't.

Did you find anything interesting?
The secrets are interesting, the side bosses take too long to get to and I feel the buffs they provide are not worth the time spent on killing them.

A few things I feel could be improved

1. Grappling, the desync makes the entire hunters grotto wing not fun to play
2. I feel like going for the secrets is a massive waste of time in most runs, mostly because you need to always walk back, if you could add a portal back to where you started the secret path I feel they would be utilized a lot more.
3. Sometimes heavy attacking the lava orb fails to register. This is with doing a fully charged heavy attack.
4. Resetting the arena doesn't work if you are in the middle of a run, you can abandon the quest and it won't care.
   With regards to this I would really love a better way of resetting instances, there really should be a button or a chat command you can use to reset arena's/ trials
5. The hunters grotto wing seems overturned in general compared to the other wings.

The scoring system!
At the moment, to my knowledge you need to kill everything to get the maximum possible score. This is simply not fun, you have developed an amazing arena where you can come up with creative ways to skip past certain enemies and complete the place really quite fast. This leads to some really exciting gameplay where you are pushing yourself to beat it as fast as you can.

But the way the score is handled now you need to kill everything to get the highest possible score, even the side bosses, which take so long to get to that it completely ruins the potential of doing the arena as quickly as you can.

I would really ask you to reevaluate how the scoring works, in my opinion it should be based off of time, minus sigils used.

Here are some videos of the lag. It's absolutely impossible.
https://streamable.com/ckrofr
https://streamable.com/ky24qg

Like others have reported, it is indeed very laggy at the moment. I am not sure if that is because i am from EU or not, but i had several issues with being teleported back and forth when using the grappling hook inside the Hircine Arena.

Was the arena fun? Which was your favorite part, and why?

I highly enjoyed the concept and look of the new arena. It is challenging enough for me as an endgame player, and the final boss just looks so badass

Did you complete the entire arena?

Yes, i completed it on veteran on my first try in 1 hour 50 minutes, and 0 vitality. Most being on the final boss.

Did you find anything interesting?

I found health buffs in the fire arena, and it was a pleasant surprise to see a side objective carrying over to the final boss fight.

Do you have any other general feedback?

In the fire arena, is there any reason to go to that one hidden Iron Atronach boss besides getting an extra chest to loot? It is nice to be able to explore, but i am unsure if i might have missed something in there.

Also i noticed something, in the fire arena when you heavy attack the orbs to get lava immunity, you have to be close to the orbs to get the protection. I had a few cases where i heavy attacked the orb with a staff from a distance and didnt get the buff.

Great work guys, this is the content i like to see

I only had time to clear the fire arena and down to the Minotaur in the second arena on vet. Agree with others- the grappling hook mechanics are buggy for sure.

Generally it’s fun thus far - not as hard as vMA when it dropped

Update on this when I was able to head back in after work - the grappling hook mechanic is just plain broken and it makes this wing unplayable. I could only actually get to the Minotaur boss once after many attempts to use the grappling hook along the pathway - then I crashed at the boss.

I've done the Titan wing and the Fire wing on vet - pretty cool, but I can't complete the Minotaur at all even after restarting the quest

I want to clear first, then I'll look for the hidden stuff.

The middle arena every time i pull the first bristleback guardian the one guarded by the blessed spriggan my game completely crashes

also less so to do with the arena but the removal of animation cancelling a heavy attack is the clunkiest this game has felt in a while from the segment i played part of the fun of this game for me is the faster paced combat of ESO that isn't as much of a thing in other MMO's

The arena was pretty fun apart from too much grappling. Even without the lag, grappling is very clunky and not fluid.

I concur the Grotto/Grappling makes that portal unplayable. I have to grapple to a platform 4-5 times before I’m actually there.

Additionally, and perhaps this is more combat related (yet to test outside of the arena), when I cast the Atronach ultimate for Sorcerers, it uses my ultimate but doesn’t actually cast the pet.

LickingHistSap wrote: »

karekiz wrote: »

LickingHistSap wrote: »

Final boss is literally impossible to do as a tank. You cannot do enough dps to kill the shade fast enough, so you're dead the moment the Void Trap attack starts. This is ridiculous, since the rest of it was fairly well balanced up until then.

That isn't true. You just have to build yourself around DPS, but you can be a tank:



Gear - PFG/Maw/Medusa. Remember this is a solo arena not a tank challenge you do have to build a survival build - not a tank one.

Bar setup:
Blockade / Crit surge heal / Clannfear / Inner Light / Bound Aegis
Conduit / Crushing Shock / Clannfear / inner light / Bound Aegis

Tri stat food/potions.

You shouldn't have an instant kill DPS check in the first place, thats the dumbest *** in existence. The rest of the trial was fair to do on my tank, but the moment Maebroogha hits 80 I automatically lose because only DPS players matter in everything, I guess.

Just expanding on this point, what does Void Trap actually DO besides just make the dungeon impossible to complete for certain builds? Its extremely easy to get around if you're a DPS player, so it's not even a problem for them. Meanwhile, if you're a tank or healer, it's literally impossible to get out of unless you use the weapons buffs and also get really lucky and are also only on normal. All this does is artificially limit who can actually COMPLETE the trial, which is infuriating because I spent an hour and a half having fun on my tank, making my way through the dungeon, only to hit a wall on the final boss because it has an impossible-to-avoid DPS check mechanic.

None of the other bosses are like this, and I was enjoying finally being able to go through a trial on my main. Maebroogha's void-trap mechanic is absolutely broken and needs to be changed. At least let us avoid it using the grapples or something.

karekiz wrote: »

LickingHistSap wrote: »

Just expanding on this point, what does Void Trap actually DO besides just make the dungeon impossible to complete for certain builds?

It does multiple things:
1. It gives choice - Can I burn boss before this kills me to push next phase, or do I need to break the link and get away. This is a good fight adaption one in which allows a player on demand to adjust to a situation, based solely on their ability and build.
2. It forces players to adapt their build to the encounter. You didn't adapt it seems and got punished for it.

If you REALLY want to test - Try testing with teleports or streaks - I haven't yet, but if the link works like every other link in dungeons you can simply blink by it.

The first one is fair, but that would still apply to escaping by using the grapples if you don't trust yourself.

For the second, you shouldn't have to learn a completely new build solely to get past a single dps check when the rest of the dungeon can be easily accomplished with your current one, when the thing you're adapting for is just 'you prefer tanking as opposed to DPSing when soloing content but there's a dps check in the very last 5 minutes of the hour and a half of content you just completed", especially not on Normal. At least put a DPS check at the start so I know not to waste my time next time.

Also, I'm a dragonknight stamtank, what streaks or teleports can I even use?

EDIT: The larger problem I've had for a while can be summed up as: Why are endgame tank and healer solo builds always ignored in favor of solo dps players, what is a solo tank main supposed to do when ZoS keeps doing this.

Was the arena fun? Which was your favorite part, and why?

It was overall fun, the three different realms design made it visually and mechanics-wise interesting. I didn't explore all the pathways, so I'm sure I missed some hidden surprises. My favourite moment was actually a mistake on my part: I went on the wrong way in the 'Mehrunes Dagon' arena, and thought I had to traverse lava with no boost. So I spent a good 15 minutes coming up with ways to do it, and I did manage to travel the whole lava path, before realizing I was on the wrong way

Did you complete the entire arena?

Yes, I completed the arena on veteral mode.

Did you find anything interesting?

I found some bugs/glitches along the way:

1) On the Minotaur boss (the last boss of the Hircine realm), the grappling hooks rubber-band the player. The boss also exhibited this behaviour (he jumped back and forth and back across platforms). Also, if you fall between the platforms, but use the grappling bow, you'll be pulled up, but will land dead on the platform. I think this is because the area below the platforms that marks you as dead is too high, if that makes sense.

2) The same rubber-band issue with the grappling hook happened also on the final boss, so that when you tried to jump to the mini islands, you'd be pulled back to the main area and wipe since it was filled with the boss' AoE mechanic.

3) The AoEs of the last boss are not clearly visible (I couldn't adjust enemy brightness on the PTS, but even with that I think they wouldn't be very well discernible). It would be good if they would be indicated more boldly. I died to her ground attack even when I couldn't see anything on the ground.


Do you have any other general feedback?

The difficulty of the three realms is low compared to the last boss, even with the condition that difficulty is raised for sequential realms. It's a very steep spike in difficulty, even compared to the third realm boss, which is not bad, just feels very disanalogous. Mechanics-wise, the traversing methods were a fun touch, and broke the monotony. However, the mechanics seemed to me more like World Boss mechanics, and less than arena mechanics.

I haven't finished yet but have completed Mehrunes and Molags which I thought were both fun interesting. I like the hircine one and I'm still working on the minotaur. I have been experiencing being ported back after grappling (I love grappling - even just for the hell of it, fun) and at one point he was just undamageable and so I grappled a lot and he became damageable again but I kept getting bounced back on the grapples. If there was something else I'm supposed to do it wasn't obvious to me. I will have another go at it, I left it because I wasn't sure if it was working right as intended or if the server was just busy or my internet had died.

CyberOnEso wrote: »

Was the arena fun? Which was your favorite part, and why?
This is probably the best piece of content you have ever put out.
This is the best content you have ever put out. That last boss is amazing. The arenas look beautiful. The mechanics are vaired and intereting.

You have hit the nail on the head with this one. The amount of secrets and stuff there is to explore is really great.

The last boss has to be the best, if you wanted a satisfying end to your dark heart of skyrim, well you have it right there.

Did you complete the entire arena
Yes, I must have cleared it ~20 times on vet thus far, and don't plan on stopping.

I am looking forward to the week two buffs that I would believe are coming. There are just too many things that seem like they should one shot that just don't.

Did you find anything interesting?
The secrets are interesting, the side bosses take too long to get to and I feel the buffs they provide are not worth the time spent on killing them.

A few things I feel could be improved

1. Grappling, the desync makes the entire hunters grotto wing not fun to play
2. I feel like going for the secrets is a massive waste of time in most runs, mostly because you need to always walk back, if you could add a portal back to where you started the secret path I feel they would be utilized a lot more.
3. Sometimes heavy attacking the lava orb fails to register. This is with doing a fully charged heavy attack.
4. Resetting the arena doesn't work if you are in the middle of a run, you can abandon the quest and it won't care.
   With regards to this I would really love a better way of resetting instances, there really should be a button or a chat command you can use to reset arena's/ trials
5. The hunters grotto wing seems overturned in general compared to the other wings.

The scoring system!
At the moment, to my knowledge you need to kill everything to get the maximum possible score. This is simply not fun, you have developed an amazing arena where you can come up with creative ways to skip past certain enemies and complete the place really quite fast. This leads to some really exciting gameplay where you are pushing yourself to beat it as fast as you can.

But the way the score is handled now you need to kill everything to get the highest possible score, even the side bosses, which take so long to get to that it completely ruins the potential of doing the arena as quickly as you can.

I would really ask you to reevaluate how the scoring works, in my opinion it should be based off of time, minus sigils used.

Completed 20+ times? Dude how can you even..? I went in yesterday, first two rings went somewhat ok but in Hunter's Grotto i got stuck. That grappling bow just doesn't work. I tried Rahdgarak fight about 15 times, but got thrown back whenever i used the bow, and got weird desynced deaths like ones you get in Cyrodiil. I gave up.

Today i went in again. First 15 mins spent to be able to enter the arena because as soon as i enter, i drop down and get stuck below the ground. Relogging few times finally fixed this. Then i went back to Rahdgarak, for more annoyance apparently. If i stay put like 5 seconds after using grappling bow it won't throw me back. But i can't stay put for 5 seconds when i need to dodge the boss. And all those dodgings went straight down to the void.


I was really excited for this arena, as it's the kind of content i like. But after 2 days of sweat all i feel is frustration. Maybe i'll go again if they fix it in the next weeks, but for the moment frustration is my only feedback. I envy you tho, keep going!

Was the arena fun? Which was your favorite part, and why?
It would have been more fun if the grappling hooks were not bugging out and there was no lag.

Did you complete the entire arena?
Finally got past hunter's grotto because 85% of the time the stupid grappling bug kept resetting me back to the previous platform. I honestly don't see much helpful feedback you can on this whole arena if 1/3 of the boss fight is almost impossible to that issue. At least I know the mechanics of the fight now <_<

Do you have any other general feedback?
Please fix the grappling hooks and the platform issue in the hunter's grotto fight. It is extremely frustrating especially because the bug causes you to die over the most asinine reasons.

Update: I am stuck at this part. I cleared the green and the red portal, and right before I have to face the Iozu boss, I left the game to do something and when I come back, I can't walk on this bridge:

Screenshot

When I tried to, I would fall and die to environmental damage. I'm not sure if this is a visual error or if I need to do something else first, but this is bugged and I cannot progress further.