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[Bug] Why did the Dwarven Spider Mount's sound effects change?

Ratzkifal
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I logged in today on my Sorc to do the event and noticed very soon that the sound it makes when it "rears up" is completely different and doesn't sound in line with its usual sounds. Now I am wondering if I am the only one experiencing this, because I didn't read anything about that in the patch notes or something.

So is this a bug? Was this intended? Anyone knows? Personally I hope it's a bug because I don't like that new sound at all. It's a downgrade.

For comparison: at 0:18 and 0:57 is what it used to sound like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzstPoxSNDI]

EDIT: By courtesy of @Fischblut here is what it sounds like now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcbkieeuAqk&]
Edited by Ratzkifal on December 14, 2019 8:06PM
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  • Michae
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    Yep, I noticed that too.
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  • Marolf
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    It's the Mandela Effect:)
  • Ratzkifal
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    Michae wrote: »
    Yep, I noticed that too.

    So it's not just me? Well that's not good then.
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  • MrBrownstone
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    They've changed it for no damn reason...

    We paid for it... The old sound was much better.
  • Ratzkifal
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    They've changed it for no damn reason...

    We paid for it... The old sound was much better.

    Well hopefully it's just a bug introduced by the addition of a new reskinned version of the spider mount and the soundfiles getting mixed up or something...
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  • Artim_X
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    New sound is trash!
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  • Nord_Raseri
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    I like it. Sounds funny. To be fair, I only use it one 1 character that's a bit of a joke.
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  • Ratzkifal
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    I like it. Sounds funny. To be fair, I only use it one 1 character that's a bit of a joke.

    Like it or not, it's not okay to retroactively change items that aren't "clearly not working as intended" which people spent real money on without as much of a headsup or refund option.

    My guess is that it's only a bug, because ZOS has been very careful with issues like these in the past.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno PC EU
    Edited by Ratzkifal on November 30, 2019 10:44PM
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  • Ratzkifal
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    Another thing we should confirm. Where is everyone playing on? PC EU here.
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  • UntilValhalla13
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    It's the same with the Hollowjack Wolf a few months ago. It used to have a different, sinister laugh, both for male and female, when galloping away. Now, it just has a generic, detuned, fake Freddy Krueger laugh.
  • Fischblut
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    It would be helpful to also show how it changed, because not everyone has a spider mount. I don't have it on my EU, but I've captured current version on PC NA:

    https://youtu.be/vcbkieeuAqk

    I am not fan of both old and new versions, but in new version I really like the soft sound when the red light turns on - I didn't like the loud "bump" in old version. Also new version sounds more clean and "futuristic", in my opinion.

    I also noticed change to Hollowjack mounts when these crates returned and I bought a wolf, and I personally love it <3 They used to have different voices for argonian, khajiit, human characters. Most of my characters are argonian and khajiit, and I really hated their versions :'( I was also not a fan of female version (and my main characters are female)... :D

    Now they all have same sinister voice (male human version), and I'm pleased that I can use this mount on any of my characters - and hear same cool voice:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=552bONxi9SQ

    I can understand that it's matter of taste, but in my case it was positive change.

    I'm also waiting for better sound edits for many mounts, because so far voices are the weakest point of special mounts. Except for amazing Flame Atronach Senche and Horse voices, of course <3
  • Ratzkifal
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    Fischblut wrote: »
    It would be helpful to also show how it changed, because not everyone has a spider mount. I don't have it on my EU, but I've captured current version on PC NA:

    https://youtu.be/vcbkieeuAqk

    I am not fan of both old and new versions, but in new version I really like the soft sound when the red light turns on - I didn't like the loud "bump" in old version. Also new version sounds more clean and "futuristic", in my opinion.

    I also noticed change to Hollowjack mounts when these crates returned and I bought a wolf, and I personally love it <3 They used to have different voices for argonian, khajiit, human characters. Most of my characters are argonian and khajiit, and I really hated their versions :'( I was also not a fan of female version (and my main characters are female)... :D

    Now they all have same sinister voice (male human version), and I'm pleased that I can use this mount on any of my characters - and hear same cool voice:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=552bONxi9SQ

    I can understand that it's matter of taste, but in my case it was positive change.

    I'm also waiting for better sound edits for many mounts, because so far voices are the weakest point of special mounts. Except for amazing Flame Atronach Senche and Horse voices, of course <3

    Thanks for putting that video here! I don't have software to record the footage myself and didn't want to have to get it just for this. That is the exact same sound it makes on PC EU.
    While I'm happy for you that you enjoy this change, I personally don't like the "clean" and "futuristic" sound at all. It's not supposed to sound like that imo. It's supposedly ancient technology after all nor is it in line with the rest of the sounds it makes - for example while galloping.

    What I think we can agree on though is that it shouldn't have been changed later down the line. The original was perfectly functional and nothing indicated that it would be changed in the future, so this comes as a surprise to every person who bought it before this change.
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  • Ragged_Claw
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    I haven't used mine in ages, so hadn't noticed, but that is actually a big difference in sound.
    PC EU & NA
  • Ratzkifal
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    I haven't used mine in ages, so hadn't noticed, but that is actually a big difference in sound.

    I know right? Feels completely different... and not in a good way for me at least. Pretty bummed out about that, so I hope they fix it.
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  • eklhaftb16_ESO
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    There's some crunching, like frozen snow, and a little "cling" in the end that sounds like an icicle from a kids' cartoon. So my honest guess is that the sound belongs to the new "frost atronach" spider variant that's coming with Christmas crown crates. Someone messed up. ;)

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  • Ratzkifal
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    There's some crunching, like frozen snow, and a little "cling" in the end that sounds like an icicle from a kids' cartoon. So my honest guess is that the sound belongs to the new "frost atronach" spider variant that's coming with Christmas crown crates. Someone messed up. ;)

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    That could actually be what's going on. The sound definitely fits the spider made of ice more in my ears, so I hope you're right and this will all be resolved soon.
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  • SRTtoZ
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    I actually think the new sound sounds WAY better. The old version sounds like a the mounts about to break.
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  • Ratzkifal
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    I hope this is not gonna get burried here. The new sound really annoys me still even after I had time to "get used to it" which is especially bad considering it is a crown store item that's broken. I feel like broken is the right word because this bug turned me from a happy customer into an unhappy one : (
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  • Ratzkifal
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    Just want to point out that this bug is still in the game and I am really unhappy with it.
    I also had some people with the Frost Atronach spider mount demonstrate that their correct animation has an identical sound to the bugged Dwemer spider mount. So that's definitely the root of the problem.
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