Stop buffing bow.

Ratzkifal · October 2019

Last time I checked bows are getting nerfed next patch, since Poison Injection is getting nerfed and Draining Shot no longer knocks back. So currently whatever you are demanding is already a reality. Unless of course you are trying to say that it's good as it is now and shouldn't be changed OR you prefered the harder nerf we had in PTS 5.2.0.

If you still struggle with Bows in PvP, try going sword and shield and use your ult to reflect the projectiles back at them. Absorb Projectile is also a nice counter.

Xarc · October 2019

bow needs love, rav

Rowjoh · October 2019

I say again:

Bow is the only weapon that doesn't have an armour set with a dedicated 400 weapon damage 5th piece bonus for it!
2 handers have Sword Singers, Dual Wield has Sword Dancer and Magicka users have War Maiden...

just this alone makes Bow seriously underpowered, lets alone the good point made above ^^

JAwtunes · October 2019

Rowjoh wrote: »

I say again:

Bow is the only weapon that doesn't have an armour set with a dedicated 400 weapon damage 5th piece bonus for it!
2 handers have Sword Singers, Dual Wield has Sword Dancer and Magicka users have War Maiden...

just this alone makes Bow seriously underpowered, lets alone the good point made above ^^

Hmm... the 2H and DW sets give 450 WD to abilities in those skill lines only (inc. 2H Rally heal). War Maiden is Magic damage (400 dmg) equivalent of Automaton (phy damage) or Swamp Raider (poison/ disease damage), both of which can be used on bow. Also, there is Marksman which would probably be BiS if bow actually was OP.

Rowjoh · October 2019

exactly. ^^

2H and DW have their own specific sets and players can therefore choose to pair it with any other set.

Bow does NOT have a specific set tied to its skill line. (plus the skill line and passives are a little underwhelming in comparison to the other weapon lines).

If there was a Bow equivalent of Sword Singer or Sword Dancer I'd slot it straight away, maybe pairing it with Swamp Raider or Automaton, so I could at least be approaching parity with other non-bow builds.

Thats the point

Royaji · October 2019

Rowjoh wrote: »

I say again:

Bow is the only weapon that doesn't have an armour set with a dedicated 400 weapon damage 5th piece bonus for it!
2 handers have Sword Singers, Dual Wield has Sword Dancer and Magicka users have War Maiden...

just this alone makes Bow seriously underpowered, lets alone the good point made above ^^

I don't think bow is in a great spot or something.

But the sets you are talking about are trash tier. No one who cares about their performance uses them in PvE or any form of PvP. There are much better bonuses than 400 WD exclusively to bow abilities.

Also you are mistaken on what War Maiden does.

And if we were to play the game of "you have the set I don't have", we as bow users will inevitably lose. There are no non-bow alternatives to sets like Marksman or Hawk Eye. And they are much better sets than Sword Singer.

Rowjoh · October 2019

no, they are not trash tier. definitely not meta but really good on a niche build.

I know what War Maiden does.

Point is there isn't the same option for the Bow as there is for 2Handers, Dual Wielders and Magicka users when it comes to stacking that 5th damage bonus.

Chilly-McFreeze · October 2019

Rowjoh wrote: »

no, they are not trash tier. definitely not meta but really good on a niche build.

I know what War Maiden does.

Point is there isn't the same option for the Bow as there is for 2Handers, Dual Wielders and Magicka users when it comes to stacking that 5th damage bonus.

Marksman and Hawkeye Set are out of the picture? Or do they fall under your stacking criteria?

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Katahdin · October 2019

Bow has NOT been buffed.
It's been nerfed over and over again.

validifyedneb18_ESO · October 2019

Bows *in PVP* are dumb.

That said they where nerfed quite considerably in the last patch (and maybe the one before?) to the point where they now do feel better to play against. None of that healing/CCing/distance-making draining shot utility stack, slight adjustments to snipe.

Raideen · October 2019

Buff Bow please. It's underperforming as a primary weapon in PVE. There is one option in the game for people who want to make a "ranger" class, and it's bad enough to get you kicked from vets because everyone knows as a primary means of damage, its sub par.

Rowjoh · October 2019

Bow has needed re-working for a very long time.

Its the only weapon that doesn't cut it in vet DLC dungeons, vet DSA and vet trials.

as @Raideen says it's so underpowered that if you show up with a bow you'll get kicked !

Bow is also extremely limiting in PVP, nowhere near as effective as the other weapons as a skill/passives line - its now commonly used as a mere 2nd bar utility to proc weapon damage glyph before swapping to main 2handed or dual wield bar. Sad.