How was this overlooked?

React · September 2019

Last patch the functionality of jumping in ESO got changed, which for consoles means when you press the jump button you instantly jump, versus jumping when you release the jump button. On console, you must press block and jump simultaneously in order to execute a dodge roll. Previously this was done by FIRST pressing and holding A (the jump button), THEN tapping LT (the block button) so that the dodge roll could be instantly executed without being forced to block. NOW YOU MUST BLOCK BEFORE YOU CAN DODGE. This is one of the worst changes that has ever gone unnoticed by the masses in my opinion. I straight up cannot dodge roll in combat without spending stam blocking for no reason whatsoever.

Please revert this.

RighteousBacon · September 2019

I noticed this too but wasn’t sure what changed. It’s particularly annoying when you are rooted and try to dodge roll but instead block 47 attacks in an instant from the zerglings that rooted you instead of dodge rolling. There goes half my stam and I’m still rooted.

This is a minor change with huge implications. Some people might not understand that, but believe us when we say the old way was better

NoodleESO · September 2019

So many wonder why a small part of the community freak out over little changes like this but when you add up the nerfs, buffs, movement, speed, healing and damage changes, it feels like there's no stable game to play with.

Wheresthetea11 · September 2019

Holy- no wonder I keep block jumping instead of dodging... I thought I was going crazy

b95fister · September 2019

Wow so that is the cause on console? I was wondering why I was jump blocking so much and getting one shot by bosses. I adapted by holding block for a second first then pressing a button as you said it hard walk/sprint into a roll doge now that I have to block for a split second first........

GreatGildersleeve · September 2019

I noticed this too... tried to roll dodge but stood around like a space cadet instead. Took me a while to figure out the change... agreed... old way was better. By far.

Celestro · September 2019

And here I thought it was my old as hell controller screwing up on me after my 2 year old got a hold of it.

React · September 2019

Yeah, I thought something was broken this patch until I went back figured out it was this change that they made. One of the worst changes they've ever made with no reasoning whatsoever. Needs to be reverted.

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jadarock · September 2019

Late to the party Liam I think usmguy mentioned it a few weeks ago lol
In my eyes its yet another change that shows zos does not play their own game ..

MLGProPlayer · September 2019

Why did they even touch jumping?

WildRaptorX · September 2019

Hope they fix this soon

AMeanOne · October 2019

There was a thread on this in the last pts. It didn't get that much attention

Kronuxx · October 2019

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Why did they even touch jumping?

Why do they touch anything that no one asks for? The world may never know.

blindy107 · October 2019

Seriously thought it was me as well. Thanks for clearing that up.

Aces-High-82 · October 2019

I believed it was bc of the common lag as I only played during prime time recently in Cyro (PS4 EU). It felt clunky as hell and annoyed me several times.

Grimm13 · October 2019

Only PC's are on PTS. Few would even use a controller, so I can see how it was missed.

Dark_Lord_Kuro · October 2019

Liam12548 wrote: »

Last patch the functionality of jumping in ESO got changed, which for consoles means when you press the jump button you instantly jump, versus jumping when you release the jump button. On console, you must press block and jump simultaneously in order to execute a dodge roll. Previously this was done by FIRST pressing and holding A (the jump button), THEN tapping LT (the block button) so that the dodge roll could be instantly executed without being forced to block. NOW YOU MUST BLOCK BEFORE YOU CAN DODGE. This is one of the worst changes that has ever gone unnoticed by the masses in my opinion. I straight up cannot dodge roll in combat without spending stam blocking for no reason whatsoever.

Please revert this.

I always bloked first then roll dodge

React · October 2019

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Liam12548 wrote: »

Last patch the functionality of jumping in ESO got changed, which for consoles means when you press the jump button you instantly jump, versus jumping when you release the jump button. On console, you must press block and jump simultaneously in order to execute a dodge roll. Previously this was done by FIRST pressing and holding A (the jump button), THEN tapping LT (the block button) so that the dodge roll could be instantly executed without being forced to block. NOW YOU MUST BLOCK BEFORE YOU CAN DODGE. This is one of the worst changes that has ever gone unnoticed by the masses in my opinion. I straight up cannot dodge roll in combat without spending stam blocking for no reason whatsoever.

Please revert this.

I always bloked first then roll dodge

If you're taking damage and you roll dodge in this manner, you will unnecessarily spend stamina on blocking prior to dodging. This is NOT the proper way to execute a dodge roll on console, but it is now the only way

Dogzey · October 2019

I thought it was just me ....

usmguy1234 · October 2019

Liam12548 wrote: »

Last patch the functionality of jumping in ESO got changed, which for consoles means when you press the jump button you instantly jump, versus jumping when you release the jump button. On console, you must press block and jump simultaneously in order to execute a dodge roll. Previously this was done by FIRST pressing and holding A (the jump button), THEN tapping LT (the block button) so that the dodge roll could be instantly executed without being forced to block. NOW YOU MUST BLOCK BEFORE YOU CAN DODGE. This is one of the worst changes that has ever gone unnoticed by the masses in my opinion. I straight up cannot dodge roll in combat without spending stam blocking for no reason whatsoever.

Please revert this.

I posted a thread about this month's ago and it got completely ignored by zos. Thank you for bringing this back up. Hopefully it won't get ignored this time.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/491883/dodge-roll-on-console#latest

sproattt · October 2019

Yeah Lockblock or even worse is when you roll dodge and you get a block animation after the roll.

MCBIZZLE300 · October 2019

*** i knew something was different reguarding this! I keep going to roll dodge then not moving at all.

Millz · October 2019

Ok good to know I wasn’t the only one. To bad though.....

iRaivyne · October 2019

I started playing on Xbox for about 18 months and I've always dodge rolled by holding the left trigger and taping A. That's how it was explained in the combat tips when I started playing...

Stratforge · October 2019

This is a massive problem and the way it just snuck in there made me think I was losing my mind. Thank you for making this thread. Thanks to others including @usmguy1234 who have brought this up.

React · October 2019

iRaivyne wrote: »

I started playing on Xbox for about 18 months and I've always dodge rolled by holding the left trigger and taping A. That's how it was explained in the combat tips when I started playing...

Good to hear the developers dont even play their own game. No one would blame you for learning based on the combat tips, but the fact is that executing a roll in this manner while taking damage causes you to block incoming damage prior to rolling, resulting in extra stamina cost. This isnt as big of an issue in things like questing, overland content, and non DLC dungeons. But in veteran pve content and trials, or pvp, this is a pretty serious issue.

Gilvoth · October 2019

Liam12548 wrote: »

This is one of the worst changes that has ever gone

Please revert this.

im sory you dont like this change but many of us DO like this change. and we have been asking for a change like this for a long tiome and we want more changes to jumping, and the fix of this jumping exploit that you guys have been using for a long time.

xWarbrain · October 2019

I didn't even notice anything changed, and if anything, I roll dodge way too much.

But I'm definitely irrationally angry now.

Liam12548 wrote: »

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Liam12548 wrote: »

Last patch the functionality of jumping in ESO got changed, which for consoles means when you press the jump button you instantly jump, versus jumping when you release the jump button. On console, you must press block and jump simultaneously in order to execute a dodge roll. Previously this was done by FIRST pressing and holding A (the jump button), THEN tapping LT (the block button) so that the dodge roll could be instantly executed without being forced to block. NOW YOU MUST BLOCK BEFORE YOU CAN DODGE. This is one of the worst changes that has ever gone unnoticed by the masses in my opinion. I straight up cannot dodge roll in combat without spending stam blocking for no reason whatsoever.

Please revert this.

I always bloked first then roll dodge

If you're taking damage and you roll dodge in this manner, you will unnecessarily spend stamina on blocking prior to dodging. This is NOT the proper way to execute a dodge roll on console, but it is now the only way

Only if you're moving. I also have always either hit trigger first, or simultaneously with A. I play Mag and didn't even notice this until you posted yesterday.

Hotdog_23 · October 2019

Console is definitely on the back burner for ZOS. Sad to say it does not appear they test on console beyond turning the game on for a short test run.

Thanks for the information on dodging I thought I was crazy trying to dodge at times.

ZOS_GregoryV · October 2019

Greetings all,

After removing a handful of posts, we would like to remind everyone to keep all posts on topic and refrain from derailing the thread.

Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg-

TheYKcid · October 2019

Gilvoth wrote: »

Liam12548 wrote: »

This is one of the worst changes that has ever gone

Please revert this.

im sory you dont like this change but many of us DO like this change. and we have been asking for a change like this for a long tiome and we want more changes to jumping, and the fix of this jumping exploit that you guys have been using for a long time.

You don't even play on console you muppet