FTC Panel on Video Game Loot Boxes Today

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The first step in the U.S. Federal Trade Commission's involvement in Loot Boxes was held today

Link for those interested:
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/events-calendar/inside-game-unlocking-consumer-issues-surrounding-loot-boxes

A summary of the panel's discussion will be added to the FTC page. You can probably find news articles on it already.

A couple of interesting results:
* Several major publishers aling with Sony and Microsoft announced they would add prize odds disclosures for new games or new additions to games. Sony and Microsoft appear to be considering disclosures as a requirement moving forward
* Major publishers appear to suddenly have become champions of odds disclosures
* There appears to be a 'management company' that manages streamers. This company makes money by promoting the opening of loot boxes by streamers as 'entertainment' for those who cannot afford to buy their own. This 'management company' also claims that odds are skewed by video game publishers for 'promotional purposes', but when pressed by the FTC, he backed off the statement, stating that he was in a room once where skewed odds were mentioned.

For those unfamiliar with FTC proceedings, one or more panels are followed by a public comment period, typically 90 days. Some point afterwards, usually a few months, the FTC will take action. Action may be advice to the Congress, an agreement with an industry to self-regulation ( which is binding, by the way), promulgation of new regulations, or enforcement.

It's likely that the Feds will encourage self-regulation with continuing oversight by the FTC, especially if publishers and platforms agree to a reasonable standard that provides adequate public protection.
  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    therift wrote: »
    It's likely that the Feds will encourage self-regulation

    Lol.

    Self-regulation = letting criminals decide what is a crime.

    History has repeatedly shown that "self regulation" invariably means "no regulation until after the damage is done".


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  • Siohwenoeht
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    Ya... I wouldn't expect anything meaningful out of any part of this administration. Big business trumps ;) all.
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  • Wolfpaw
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    Ya... I wouldn't expect anything meaningful out of any part of this administration. Big business trumps ;) all.

    Some of ESO money goes to the Trump family I believe, Zenimax Media.
  • Skwor
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    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ya... I wouldn't expect anything meaningful out of any part of this administration. Big business trumps ;) all.

    Some of ESO money goes to the Trump family I believe, Zenimax Media.

    No, it goes to the Democratic National Party campaign fund.
  • Wolfpaw
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    Skwor wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ya... I wouldn't expect anything meaningful out of any part of this administration. Big business trumps ;) all.

    Some of ESO money goes to the Trump family I believe, Zenimax Media.

    No, it goes to the Democratic National Party campaign fund.

    Check out BoD
    https://www.zenimax.com/about
  • Freddycruz89
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    Well, guess I just found out where the smell of trickery was coming from. Thank you @Wolfpaw

    The greed now makes sense.
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  • idk
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    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ya... I wouldn't expect anything meaningful out of any part of this administration. Big business trumps ;) all.

    Some of ESO money goes to the Trump family I believe, Zenimax Media.

    No, it goes to the Democratic National Party campaign fund.

    Check out BoD
    https://www.zenimax.com/about

    Good catch but that doesn’t mean they support Trump’s campaign. I don’t think the Trump family has no ownership in ZeniMax.
  • No_Division
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    idk wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ya... I wouldn't expect anything meaningful out of any part of this administration. Big business trumps ;) all.

    Some of ESO money goes to the Trump family I believe, Zenimax Media.

    No, it goes to the Democratic National Party campaign fund.

    Check out BoD
    https://www.zenimax.com/about

    Good catch but that doesn’t mean they support Trump’s campaign. I don’t think the Trump family has no ownership in ZeniMax.

    Everything is connect when you follow the money.
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    Looks like "streamer loot" is a real thing and not a conspiracy theory, then.

    Companies secretly boosting odds for a streamer to make viewers think the odds are better than they actually are. Would explain a lot.
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    Lake wrote: »
    Looks like "streamer loot" is a real thing and not a conspiracy theory, then.

    Companies secretly boosting odds for a streamer to make viewers think the odds are better than they actually are. Would explain a lot.
    Plausible but take some work to set up.

    Crown crate logger would anyway make any odd values in the presented values very visible.
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    idk wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ya... I wouldn't expect anything meaningful out of any part of this administration. Big business trumps ;) all.

    Some of ESO money goes to the Trump family I believe, Zenimax Media.

    No, it goes to the Democratic National Party campaign fund.

    Check out BoD
    https://www.zenimax.com/about

    Good catch but that doesn’t mean they support Trump’s campaign. I don’t think the Trump family has no ownership in ZeniMax.

    Everything is connect when you follow the money.

    That means you are connected and just as much a supporter. Good job old chap. See how that works.
    Edited by idk on August 9, 2019 6:35AM
  • Cadbury
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    idk wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ya... I wouldn't expect anything meaningful out of any part of this administration. Big business trumps ;) all.

    Some of ESO money goes to the Trump family I believe, Zenimax Media.

    No, it goes to the Democratic National Party campaign fund.

    Check out BoD
    https://www.zenimax.com/about

    Good catch but that doesn’t mean they support Trump’s campaign. I don’t think the Trump family has no ownership in ZeniMax.

    Everything is connect when you follow the money.

    That means you are connected and just as much a supporter. Good job old chap. See how that works.

    Does this mean ESO is controlled by the Illuminati?
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