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Proof cheating exists in ESO

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For all who say cheating does not exist in ESO watch this video that I found on YouTube starting 9mins in
https://youtu.be/OTClexUpYoU
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    This bug is old.
  • Waylander07
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    This bug is old.

    So this is just a bug, if its old it needs fixed as it still exists
  • laksikus
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    nothing new.
    i know part of one of the things that can cause it. but just not interested in reproducing that bug reliable
  • MajBludd
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    Lmao, go to alikr dolman and watch the guy running a scripted program to farm dolmens.
    Wonder if s/he is still there since s/he was reported?
    Also tells me zos detection system is total ***. So, run what you want, they can't detect it obviously.
  • Oberstein
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    This bug is old.

    So this is just a bug, if its old it needs fixed as it still exists

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    At 9:07 the player resurrects him/herself.

    The only theory I could think of is because the two players were bonded, the last player standing received the damage flow from the first player and that could have been considered non-battle damage?

    Edit: bond= Skill: Mystic guard if I'm not mistaken, an alliance support skill

    Edited by BoraxFlux on December 31, 2018 3:10PM
  • Glory
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    Nice February 2018 video. Honestly I'm amazed this is the best "cheating proof" video you could find.
    BoraxFlux wrote: »
    At 9:07 the player resurrects him/herself.

    The only theory I could think of is because the two players were bonded, the last player standing received the damage flow from the first player and that could have been considered non-battle damage?

    Yes. It's an old in-game glitch with the way Guard works, where if you die from damage transferred by your ally it is considered PvE damage, allowing you to resurrect with a soul gem.

    This is one of those moments that you should analyze the situation, figure out what you think happened, and then recreate the glitch in order to identify the problem to submit to support to fix.

    It's sad to see ignorance instead, people so often scream "CHEATING" when in reality that person was probably as confused about what happened.
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  • GreenhaloX
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    You don't really need such proof. It's already common knowledge that there are a lot of cheaters in the game; sadly..
  • Dextail
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    All I see here is a zergling spamming BOL praying that people leave him alone. Definitely no cheating here. Unless you class using more than BOL as cheating.
  • therift
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    This is, quite clearly, the bug with Guard. It's fairly common, or common enough that whenever my group drops a pair using Guard, we anticipate that one of those players may be able to self-rez... especially if they stick around dead. Turn your back, and in a minute they'll both be up and on the attack.
  • Waylander07
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    therift wrote: »
    This is, quite clearly, the bug with Guard. It's fairly common, or common enough that whenever my group drops a pair using Guard, we anticipate that one of those players may be able to self-rez... especially if they stick around dead. Turn your back, and in a minute they'll both be up and on the attack.

    Thanks for explaining, looks like I was wrong about the player cheating for which I hold my hand up to
  • Reverb
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    No one says cheating doesn't exist in eso. But what you've posted is evidence of a bug.
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  • therift
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    therift wrote: »
    This is, quite clearly, the bug with Guard. It's fairly common, or common enough that whenever my group drops a pair using Guard, we anticipate that one of those players may be able to self-rez... especially if they stick around dead. Turn your back, and in a minute they'll both be up and on the attack.

    Thanks for explaining, looks like I was wrong about the player cheating for which I hold my hand up to

    To be honest, I had to review it three times because the final action was partially obscured by terrain.

    Once I saw that Guard was up, that was the clue... because it's happened to me. Somebody put Guard on me in a zerg fest; we both lasted through most of the fight, and when we dropped, I had the option to rez myself or at a wayshrine.

    That incident explained to me why so often a pair of opponents running Guard can be dropped and reappear moments later. Now we make sure to not lose track of such opponents in case one has the opportunity to self-rez and then rez his partner.

    Kind of annoying, really. But the alternative for the player who gets that bug is to respawn back at base, rather than a nearby camp or keep. I can't blame them, honestly... it's damned if you do or damned if you don't.
  • generalmyrick
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    i thought it was against terms to exploit a glitch? just because you can do it doesn't make it ok to do it.
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    Just a friendly reminder to mind our community rules around baiting. It’s okay and very normal to disagree with others, and even to debate, but provoking conflict, baiting, inciting, mocking, etc. is never acceptable in the official The Elder Scrolls Online community.
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  • Ruckly
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    Cheating does exist in ESO but blatant cheating is rare. I saw people jump over a fort wall that was at 30% in the last week + I had a witness. I had dropped down from the wall by accident so maybe they didn't see me and then they starting flying over the wall only time I've ever seen it. Someone said the FD was down so I assume it was a guild behind on their quota with peer pressure so I didn't take it to seriously. It's certainly not as bad as players that abuse lag bombing as that makes the game unplayable.
  • imredneckson
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    This bug is old.

    The last thread of cheat engine being in the game was deleted less than a week ago. The videos of the CE being used were dated to last month. The guy was selling the engine
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    I've seen a similar looking bug in the Kyne/BWB campaign where if you level up while dead (XP incoming from group members) you get the option to rez with a soul gem.

    So no one is going to talk about the "flame lash, flame lash, flame lash... etc" support ticket? LOL! XD
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  • Checkmath
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    Erm this video is almost a year old....its from february and people have cps capped at 690....
  • generalmyrick
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    maybe the OP just wanted to show that cheating was possible because cheating has occurred?
    Edited by generalmyrick on January 1, 2019 12:19AM
    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

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    dem0n1k wrote: »
    I've seen a similar looking bug in the Kyne/BWB campaign where if you level up while dead (XP incoming from group members) you get the option to rez with a soul gem.

    So no one is going to talk about the "flame lash, flame lash, flame lash... etc" support ticket? LOL! XD

    I took the flame lash ticket as lashing out against flame lash
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    Erm this video is almost a year old....its from february and people have cps capped at 690....

    Yes, that video is old news but the videos on the deleted thread from a week ago were dated to November of 2018. Id post them so you could see but I don't want ZOS to delete this thread as well.
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    ZOS_RogerJ wrote: »
    Just a friendly reminder to mind our community rules around baiting. It’s okay and very normal to disagree with others, and even to debate, but provoking conflict, baiting, inciting, mocking, etc. is never acceptable in the official The Elder Scrolls Online community.
    Lol. This entire thread is baiting.

    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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