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FPS degradation over time

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For the last few weeks I have noticed that my normally quite stable FPS will dip all the way down into the teens and low twenties when it is usually in the high fifties or 60 (where I have it capped).

This occurs after around 30-40 minutes of play and if I relog or re-zone the problem is fixed with FPS shooting back up to the normal smooth higher levels...until around 30 minutes later when the same thing will occur again.

My drivers are up to date, and oddly when I experience the slow down my GPU and CPU don't seem to be overly taxed at all. In fact, the fans for both those devices seem to slow down as if the CPU and GPU are being less taxed than when the FPS are high.

Initially I thought "memory leak", but the amount of RAM being used is only in high 2GB to low 3GB range - hardly using anywhere near the 16GB I have available.

Again, since rezoning will fix this issue I am pretty sure it is a problem with ESO and not a driver issue. I am going to remove my addon folder and play without any addons for an hour to see if that makes a difference, but I doubt it will.

Anyone else notice this issue?

edit: So I removed my addons folder and played for about 40 minutes. Staring off in a random direction at a south Dolmen in Bankorai I was getting 28 FPS. Logged out to character select screen, logged back in to the same character looking in the same direction...60 FPS. So it is not an addon that is causing this drop.

edit 2 : dxdiag

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Time of this report: 9/14/2018, 11:32:09
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  • ZOS_Bill
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    You can find some suggested troubleshooting and possible solutions for your variable framerate in the thread linked below.

    Lower than expected FPS, is this normal?
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  • danno8
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    ZOS_BillE wrote: »
    You can find some suggested troubleshooting and possible solutions for your variable framerate in the thread linked below.

    Lower than expected FPS, is this normal?

    Thanks @ZOS_BillE , but this isn't just a "my FPS are low" situation. This is a predictable degradation of FPS that occurs over time as you play the game, and is rectified by relogging or rezoning the game.

    I have tried removing the addon folder completely and the situation still occurs. My drivers are all up to date. I'm not sure what could cause a 40FPS drop that is fixed by rezoning or relogging except a memory leak, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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    Just a small bump since I am now seeing other people with this problem and more threads popping up about the same thing.
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    Happens in trial instances as well. We had to reset vCR a few times because many of our group members experienced huge FPS losses involving even freezes sometimes. Only resetting the instance resolved the issue... :/
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  • evildemoncat
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    I don't have a FPS drop, I start with a low FPS. My new rig should NOT be running this game at less than 30 FPS. My monitor is 120 refresh rate, with a 1070 vid card in there. All my other games, note ALL my other games, run at 95-115+ FPS. BUT NOT ESO. It was, until the last little patch they did! Whatever they did screwed it up! As a templar healer, this can mean life or death for my parties in content! I haven't been running my dailies or anything for fear of not being able to heal my team properly.

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    I don't have a FPS drop, I start with a low FPS. My new rig should NOT be running this game at less than 30 FPS. My monitor is 120 refresh rate, with a 1070 vid card in there. All my other games, note ALL my other games, run at 95-115+ FPS. BUT NOT ESO. It was, until the last little patch they did! Whatever they did screwed it up! As a templar healer, this can mean life or death for my parties in content! I haven't been running my dailies or anything for fear of not being able to heal my team properly.

    --EDC

    Yah that's a different issue. Obviously sucks just as much, but different mechanics are happening for you.
  • Wanderica
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    Hi there, Danno. I decided to pop into this thread as we really don't need 2. You commented on mine a few days ago about the same issue.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/437833/strange-fps-issues-on-high-end-pc

    I have continued to dig, and I really haven't made a ton of headway, but do have a little insight. In our ESO config files (the one located in your documents folder) there is a line dealing with number of cores / threads to use. I don't have it handy to check the exact wording, but I believe this is one of the settings that changed with Summerset.

    SET Max.Threads.To.Use - "-6" for example. Mine was set to -6 which I'm assuming is a "max available" type setting. I changed mine to 16 with no difference. I found a YouTube video guide on changing some of these settings published prior to Summerset launch that claimed anything over 11 would cause crashes. Since I didn't experience this, it leads me to believe that this could have been a change with Summerset. Since you have a quad core without hyperthreading, there goes my theory about SMT or Hyperthreading causing the issue. However, you may have a little luck manually setting yours to 4.

    I still think this is a CPU load issue. Even though ESO can make use of many threads, I still have one core (Core 2 in my case) that is heavily loaded at all times. My guess is that this would be the core handling the task of "talking" to the GPU. It could still be a bottleneck, even though the game is using all available threads. Also, I get a lot of stutter during these frame drops even when it dips to the 45-50 range. GSync should smooth that right out if it's a GPU issue, but for some reason it doesn't. There's just no way this is a GPU issue for either of us, but I do wonder if a driver update changed something. I may rollback to a driver from earlier this year to test. I'll also disable SMT via BIOS and give that a shot just for the heck of it. If that doesn't fix it then I'm at a loss. At least it's still playable, just really annoying.
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    @ZOS_BillE, @ZOS_GinaBruno is there any way you guys can pass along a request for a "refresh zone" keybind or some such. This issue has apparently been pretty tough to fix for years (the other thread in Tech Support is many pages now over the last few years) now but does resolve for everyone by rezoning or relogging.

    Pretty please?
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    bump, any solution? this is still present.
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    spartycus wrote: »
    bump, any solution? this is still present.

    It has magically cleared up for me, around mid October or so. No changes here or anything, just doesn't happen anymore...for me.
  • spartycus
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    danno8 wrote: »
    spartycus wrote: »
    bump, any solution? this is still present.

    It has magically cleared up for me, around mid October or so. No changes here or anything, just doesn't happen anymore...for me.

    damn how is that possible?! i wish that would happen for me!... nothing you know changed? anything maybe you did, or upgrade or something you can help me out with! i really want to play this game.
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    spartycus wrote: »
    danno8 wrote: »
    spartycus wrote: »
    bump, any solution? this is still present.

    It has magically cleared up for me, around mid October or so. No changes here or anything, just doesn't happen anymore...for me.

    damn how is that possible?! i wish that would happen for me!... nothing you know changed? anything maybe you did, or upgrade or something you can help me out with! i really want to play this game.

    Sorry man. It came out of nowhere for me, persisted for 3 or 4 months, then one day I noticed I had been playing for over an hour without having to restart or rezone. Then it was gone.

    Maybe Nvidia driver fixed something, maybe a ZoS patch fixed something, all I know is it's gone. No more perma sub 20 FPS for no logical reason.
    Edited by danno8 on February 5, 2019 2:53AM
  • spartycus
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    danno8 wrote: »
    spartycus wrote: »
    danno8 wrote: »
    spartycus wrote: »
    bump, any solution? this is still present.

    It has magically cleared up for me, around mid October or so. No changes here or anything, just doesn't happen anymore...for me.

    damn how is that possible?! i wish that would happen for me!... nothing you know changed? anything maybe you did, or upgrade or something you can help me out with! i really want to play this game.

    Sorry man. It came out of nowhere for me, persisted for 3 or 4 months, then one day I noticed I had been playing for over an hour without having to restart or rezone. Then it was gone.

    Maybe Nvidia driver fixed something, maybe a ZoS patch fixed something, all I know is it's gone. No more perma sub 20 FPS for no logical reason.

    lol maybe its the content you're playing? are you now playing in different areas, doing different things? All my stuff is up to date.. sigh, thinking about leaving game again. even though its a lot of fun, going from 100fps down to 40 locked just puts a frown on my face.
  • ZOS_Bill
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    As this thread is several months old the discussion is being closed. Listed below is a help article for performance issues in ESO. If none of the troubleshooting steps below help, you can contact customer support. You can start a new thread if there are no active discussions on this topic.

    What do I do if ESO is having performance issues on PC?
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