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How do you feel about the cooldown 20 to 30 secs for syneries? (Changed reverted)

  • WrathOfInnos
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    Asardes wrote: »
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    Torugs will probably out perform Alkosh now sadly.

    It already does, after that set was buffed. I never bothered farming it, since I started progressing vMoL right after Morrowind, and by that time Torug's was already stronger and more reliable.

    If used with infused crusher, Torugs reduces enemy resistances by 633 (2108 to 2741). Alkosh reduces enemy resistances by 3010, so unless uptime is terrible Alkosh is still way better.

    Alkosh with infused crusher results in 5118 reduction in resistances, but takes a skilled tank to keep good uptime on both.

    The scenario where they are similar is if the tank does not use Crusher with Alkosh, but does use infused crusher with Torugs, so it is then 3010 vs 2741. But most of that 2741 is not credited to Torugs.

    Edited by WrathOfInnos on January 29, 2018 5:48PM
  • ZOS_Edward
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    Hey everyone!

    I wanted to drop in and let you know that we've gone ahead and reverted these changes in the current PTS patch. You can find the notes and Dev comment here:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4820516/#Comment_4820516
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  • QuebraRegra
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    Erraln wrote: »
    I feel like they've got someone on staff whose sole job is to make sure no changes can be pushed as straight buffs.

    Make a feature work properly? We can't have that, it'll give them an advantage next patch. Better make it worse at the same time.

    it's a practice called "Wrobeling"... check it out.
  • Inig0
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    ZOS_Edward wrote: »
    Hey everyone!

    I wanted to drop in and let you know that we've gone ahead and reverted these changes in the current PTS patch. You can find the notes and Dev comment here:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4820516/#Comment_4820516

    THANKS EDWARD
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  • Erraln
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    Erraln wrote: »
    I feel like they've got someone on staff whose sole job is to make sure no changes can be pushed as straight buffs.

    Make a feature work properly? We can't have that, it'll give them an advantage next patch. Better make it worse at the same time.
    ZOS_Edward wrote: »
    Hey everyone!

    I wanted to drop in and let you know that we've gone ahead and reverted these changes in the current PTS patch. You can find the notes and Dev comment here:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4820516/#Comment_4820516

    Thrilled to be wrong, thank you! /kowtow
  • Asardes
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    Thanks for reverting this unnecessary change. I will now have another reason to go back in vMoL and farm the rest of my Alkosh set now :)
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  • Morgul667
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    Nice reverting this
  • SaintSubwayy
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    RIP MoL sets: 2016-2018

    Torugs will probably out perform Alkosh now sadly.

    It already does, after that set was buffed. I never bothered farming it, since I started progressing vMoL right after Morrowind, and by that time Torug's was already stronger and more reliable.

    If used with infused crusher, Torugs reduces enemy resistances by 633 (2108 to 2741). Alkosh reduces enemy resistances by 3010, so unless uptime is terrible Alkosh is still way better.

    Alkosh with infused crusher results in 5118 reduction in resistances, but takes a skilled tank to keep good uptime on both.

    The scenario where they are similar is if the tank does not use Crusher with Alkosh, but does use infused crusher with Torugs, so it is then 3010 vs 2741. But most of that 2741 is not credited to Torugs.

    Since they fixed the minor slayer buff on alkosh, it can also be iable for a stmdd to run it
    But only if the tank job is hard in certain fights like vHRC or when the tank isnt at the boss like in vAA.
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  • lazerlaz
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    Great idea. People need to learn to rely on themselves more than others.
  • commdt
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    RIP MoL sets: 2016-2018

    Torugs will probably out perform Alkosh now sadly.

    It already does, after that set was buffed. I never bothered farming it, since I started progressing vMoL right after Morrowind, and by that time Torug's was already stronger and more reliable.

    If used with infused crusher, Torugs reduces enemy resistances by 633 (2108 to 2741). Alkosh reduces enemy resistances by 3010, so unless uptime is terrible Alkosh is still way better.

    Alkosh with infused crusher results in 5118 reduction in resistances, but takes a skilled tank to keep good uptime on both.

    The scenario where they are similar is if the tank does not use Crusher with Alkosh, but does use infused crusher with Torugs, so it is then 3010 vs 2741. But most of that 2741 is not credited to Torugs.

    Since they fixed the minor slayer buff on alkosh, it can also be iable for a stmdd to run it
    But only if the tank job is hard in certain fights like vHRC or when the tank isnt at the boss like in vAA.

    Or when there are other good sets coming
    Rawr
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