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[Video Series] Noricum/Kitesquad - 4/6/18 - DK POV - First Post Updated

  • Yuke
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    The biggest problem about it is that AD just waits in their keeps/outposts after PvDooring the whole map and the second something lids up on the map everyone comes there.
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  • Yuke
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    The problem is, as i wrote about 22times, that 120 ADs, who were 'scouting' in different keeps/outposts, come to that ressource ulti dumping their 120 ults they were saving up for the last two hours at once on our 3-4 man group

    and i dont even exaggerate
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  • Etaniel
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    Let's hug it out and get back to original topic, let Yuke post his vids in peace o:)
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  • Derra
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Let's hug it out and get back to original topic, let Yuke post his vids in peace o:)

    You won´t save this topic.
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  • Etaniel
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    Derra wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Let's hug it out and get back to original topic, let Yuke post his vids in peace o:)

    You won´t save this topic.

    Can you at least let me retreat like a proper Frenchman?
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  • Yuke
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    Miruku wrote: »
    [snip]

    Hrhr, was thinking the same. Especially because ZS and KS playstyles dont really collide. I couldnt care less about ZS playstyle if there wouldnt be an impact on my performance because of it tbh.

    Also: Nice roundhouse kick Mojo, Chuck would have been proud. :#

    Also2: Pls dont rip my thread :/ i dont have time and energy left to spend on recreating ESO things, IG and Forums related.

    [Edit to match quoted comment]
    Edited by ZOS_Bill on July 3, 2017 6:42PM
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  • Lieblingsjunge
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    [snip]

    Yeah, Frost. Stop eating brains pls. Stop being confusing now.

    I might've just missed it and I didn't extensively browse your YT-account, Yuke. (Yes, yes, lazy). Can you give me a quick recap of what you're running on your stam-warden? Or link me the build video, if there's one.

    [Edit to match quoted comment]
    Edited by ZOS_Bill on July 3, 2017 6:47PM
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  • Yuke
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    [snip]

    Yeah, Frost. Stop eating brains pls. Stop being confusing now.

    I might've just missed it and I didn't extensively browse your YT-account, Yuke. (Yes, yes, lazy). Can you give me a quick recap of what you're running on your stam-warden? Or link me the build video, if there's one.

    Im still testing around a bit because of the super crappy sustain of the Warden class. But basically its a combination of:

    Tavas, Bloodspawn, Viper, Selene

    Warden has ult gain and burst as strengths so i would try to max those out as good as possible.

    [Edit to match quoted comment]
    Edited by ZOS_Bill on July 3, 2017 6:48PM
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  • Magıc
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    Ayeline really needs to train you at being mean Lieb... You're supposed to add to the drama.

    Me and Naf failed you
  • Lieblingsjunge
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    Magıc wrote: »
    Ayeline really needs to train you at being mean Lieb... You're supposed to add to the drama.

    Me and Naf failed you

    Shhh. Ayeline's already training me in more ways than one o:)>:)

    Yuke wrote: »
    Im still testing around a bit because of the super crappy sustain of the Warden class. But basically its a combination of:

    Tavas, Bloodspawn, Viper, Selene

    Warden has ult gain and burst as strengths so i would try to max those out as good as possible.

    Yeah, I see. At least early in the video you seem to use the forest & permafrost - why not dawnbreaker? Can imagine hitting a dawnbreaker + shalks + a proc/cliffracer at the same time is gonna hurt quite a lot.
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    Sits-On-Cacti(DC) - Problem?
    Fail-With-Tail(AD) - Healing Springs-spammer :<
    Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
    Lieblingsmädchen(DC) - Magplar is love.
    The Dominàtrix(AD) - Chains, whip, whip, whip.
    Fluffy Furball Kitten(DC) - Kittycat, meow.
    Your Face(EP) - People make bad jokes about my name =(
    Liebs-With-Trees(AD) - Male argo with a big tail :>

    Officer/Sandwitch of Zerg Squad
    My title: The Maneater, Destroyer of Maneuvers, Bane of Potatoes, she who devours them, The Black Hole, the humorless, first of her name.
  • Master_Kas
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    A peaceoffering for my morningcapping

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuR3QmNglLM&amp;feature=youtu.be

    @prootch You are a hard man to kill so I had to capture it :smiley:
    Edited by Master_Kas on July 3, 2017 12:04PM
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  • Etaniel
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    A peaceoffering for my morningcapping

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuR3QmNglLM&amp;feature=youtu.be

    @prootch You are a hard man to kill so I had to capture it :smiley:

    Peace offering accepted ! "Moaaarr Moaaaar lulz"
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  • Sanct16
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    Well I didn't meant to insult anyone. Personally I don't think it's a problem at all to find fights when map is flipped by an enemy faction but we talked about group composition and stuff in different threads already so I won't bother doing it again.
    Don't think it's fair to say tho that I dropped to a nonconstructive level first tho as I simply disagreed with you.

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  • Jam
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    @prootch You are a hard man to kill so I had to capture it :smiley:

    Oh non Kas please... Do not bring Prootch on this thread, for once we were quiet between adult..!

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  • Derra
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    Sanct16 wrote: »
    Well I didn't meant to insult anyone. Personally I don't think it's a problem at all to find fights when map is flipped by an enemy faction but we talked about group composition and stuff in different threads already so I won't bother doing it again.
    Don't think it's fair to say tho that I dropped to a nonconstructive level first tho as I simply disagreed with you.

    Well tbh getting stomped with the only options being bring more people or log out for months without end can be pretty tiresome.
    It´s not a problem finding enemies. It´s a problem to find a number of enemies that you can handle alone or with two people.
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  • Glory
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    Sorry I asked about the health of the EU populations... Think I may have derailed Yuke's video thread and I did not mean to :D:D:D

    Cool to see that there are so many opinionated and passionate players out there though!
    mDK will rise again.
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  • prootch
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    @prootch You are a hard man to kill so I had to capture it :smiley:

    Yep, emp ult destro ftw. quite efficient as usual.
    Hope you didn't mind the emp gank equivalent in ash yesterday. stamblade as emp is pretty nasty.
    Edited by prootch on July 3, 2017 5:24PM
  • Master_Kas
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    prootch wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    @prootch You are a hard man to kill so I had to capture it :smiley:

    Yep, emp ult destro ftw. quite efficient as usual.
    Hope you didn't mind the emp gank equivalent in ash yesterday. stamblade as emp is pretty nasty.

    You gave me a heartattack some days ago, I chased a blue outside of roe right into your group (on my dk so no escape) :astonished:
    Edited by Master_Kas on July 3, 2017 5:46PM
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  • prootch
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    Now this thread is full of the usual QQ.

    Lag is ZOS pb from start, trying to incriminate ZS or any other group is real bs : customers still pay for mass AvA on an open RvR map which is... not actually available due mainly to ZOS lack of investment in it (even if they did get some results over time).

    Being able to solo/duo/smallscale on an open RvR map would mean adapted objectives spread all over the map, like making every zone on the map available as a part of emp capture, instead of just 6 keeps.

    Back to ZOS responsability again... if they ever meant to be smallscale oriented to begin with.
    Edited by prootch on July 3, 2017 6:00PM
  • Yuke
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    :|
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  • Miruku
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    Rip yuke's pretty thread :'(
  • Derra
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    prootch wrote: »
    Now this thread is full of the usual QQ.

    Lag is ZOS pb from start, trying to incriminate ZS or any other group is real bs : customers still pay for mass AvA on an open RvR map which is... not actually available due mainly to ZOS lack of investment in it (even if they did get some results over time).

    Being able to solo/duo/smallscale on an open RvR map would mean adapted objectives spread all over the map, like making every zone on the map available as a part of emp capture, instead of just 6 keeps.

    Back to ZOS responsability again... if they ever meant to be smallscale oriented to begin with.

    I´ve always stated i enjoy largescale. Just not large groups.

    I know because i´ve played games with largescale and small groups and largescale with largegroups. The former is more open for different playstyles and a lot more chaotic which allows for participation of different players/skilllevels far easier than eso does.
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  • ZOS_Bill
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    There has been two pages of comments removed from this thread for a mix of baiting, insults, and generally off-topic posts. Please try and keep commentary focused on the original thread subject so this discussion can stay open.
    Edited by ZOS_Bill on July 3, 2017 6:52PM
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  • Valencer
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    Is it really large groups making it hard to have fun as a small group, or did the PvP meta just change for the worse?

    The way I see it, people have strong damage/survivability now through easily accesible build/gear options and that's what makes it so damn hard to find fun, winnable fights. You have to get into a situation where youre facing a group of players that 1) doesnt include too many heavy armour healbots 2) doesnt include too many proctards that instantly evaporate your health from 100 to 0 if they even slightly focus you and 3) doesnt include too many people that will constantly dump destro ulti or soul assault (especially your stamina buddies) on you. Given how easily accessible and easy to play all of these build options are, that's a pretty rare scenario to find yourself in, nowadays.

    Doesnt help that everyone now tends to stack with their whole alliance everywhere because said PvP meta completely encourages just that.

    I mean... large groups have been in ESO since before launch and there's always been a lack of objectives promoting real "small scale".
  • Yuke
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    Thanks for cleaning up @ZOS_BillE

    @Valencer from my own experience i can say that most of the people dont even leave their keeps/outposts anymore without a zerg after ZOS nerfed sustain and damage. This whole 'lowering the ceiling' thing didnt work at all. People who could kinda run in a straight line with last patch, now just fall over their own two feets after 5 - 10 meters.

    Best thing that can happen for a small scale grp is that the incoming damage is spread equally throughout the grp. Then you have a chance to fight and win outnumbered. A good small scale build is delicately balanced around the ability to handle (not always win) a 1vs3 or 4 against mediocre (not super scrubs) players. If you multiply this by 4 you get some good 4 vs. ~12 fights.
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  • Iyas
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    You really should give the pull skill a try. I think it could work
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  • Yuke
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    no mana, already using 3 magicka skills = rekt
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  • Ishammael
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    absolutely brutal warden footage
  • Valencer
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    Yuke wrote: »
    Thanks for cleaning up @ZOS_BillE

    @Valencer from my own experience i can say that most of the people dont even leave their keeps/outposts anymore without a zerg after ZOS nerfed sustain and damage. This whole 'lowering the ceiling' thing didnt work at all. People who could kinda run in a straight line with last patch, now just fall over their own two feets after 5 - 10 meters.

    Best thing that can happen for a small scale grp is that the incoming damage is spread equally throughout the grp. Then you have a chance to fight and win outnumbered. A good small scale build is delicately balanced around the ability to handle (not always win) a 1vs3 or 4 against mediocre (not super scrubs) players. If you multiply this by 4 you get some good 4 vs. ~12 fights.

    Fair enough. Are you running heavy armour or medium armour on your warden?

    Kind of tired of how useless sDK feels in groups and Im liking the utility a sWarden offers. Tried sWarden a while ago in 5 medium but it felt way too squishy. Big issue I ran into is that it's impossible to proc major mending with rally and vigor, although I guess the healing ulti can help with that (didnt have it slotted).
  • Biro123
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    Yuke wrote: »
    thanks for the feedback

    yes, im kinda glad that i found a stamina (!) class which has some utility for small scale groups. On sDK you always feel like a burden to your group sadly.

    And no, EU cyro is super bad to play on for over 3 months now as a small scale guildgroup with a 'normal' day rhythm.

    AD nightcaps. Then it takes the two other factions until around 6 pm to get some homekeeps back. Next the Blob-Raids come on and make it impossible to perform/play on the server until around midnight-1am.

    So, yeah, small scale primetime on EU is from 1am to 10am sadly.

    I am lucky that i was still a student the last past months, but i finished my M. Sc. now and i am really REALLY worried now that i wont be able to play the way i love anymore...

    I'm finding that too.. not to mention the queues and disconnects during primetime..

    Started playing no-cp yesterday instead - been really enjoying it so far.. just need to remember to avoid siege!
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