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AD starter home unfair?!
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That is an amazing setup for that space...Hey guys,
I thought a lot about writing this or not...
but I am real sad about it so I'm gonna do it.
I made a char from each alliance to get all the free starter homes and furnished all of them, beside the AD one, which my only actually played char is from.
It is just not possible to fit a bed in, nicely, and not even close to a desk, bed, dresser, nightstand... all things that fit in perfectly fine in the other starting homes.
I would LOVE to use the Auridon home!! But in the small and weird shape its just not possible, I think that needs to be changed!
Let me know your thoughts.
I don't think the AD free room is all that bad. I lived with just that one home for a little while before I gathered more furnishing plans and took the plunge and decided to purchase a bigger one. I find the little room to be rather sweet
I put a second level in mine for a bedroom, so that I was able to add more furniture beneath it.
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I'm not saying it's comparable: it's a thought experiment to see whether your assertion that something free is always fair actually makes any sense. So you conclude that it's fair, and in that thought scenario the non-white kids couldn't complain that it was unfair for them to only get 1/200,000th of what the white kids got, because they got something free so they have nothing to complain about.
Thought experiment for you @Betheny: a guy walks into a classroom and says "I'm going to give everyone in this class free money!" He then proceeds to give $10,000 to each white student, and a shiny nickel to each student of a different race. Is that scenario fair? Everyone got something for nothing, and everyone has more than they had before.Johnfred24 wrote: »A free thing can't be "unfair", even if it's rubbish...you don't get to complain about free stuff.
Go do the other faction quests and get their free inn rooms, or better yet - go buy yourself a nice house and decorate the crap out of it!
What kind of logic is that? Of course free things can be unfair...
No they can't.
If it's free it's something for nothing, more than you had before.
Is getting something for nothing unfair?
Only comparable if like with these inn rooms those other students could go get that $10,000 also for free if they wanted, because their race and political views can be changed with a character make and delete button.
Yes it's perfectly fine - they got everything for free and nothing to complain about.
Also - awkward - you're making this thread take a sudden turn down the racist road.
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✭Yeah, the AD starter is a closet with windows. You can fit a bed in there, but it has to be one of the smaller ones... no full Redguard bed, for sure, and then not much else besides that.
Almost makes me nostalgic the studio apartment I had in college.
If you want something a bit more spacious for your main, AD has an apartment available for 11k in Skywatch. It has a lot more elbow room to play around in, and costs less than a mid-level bag or bank upgrade.
In the meantime, my girls are planning to turn that tiny little closet into an office rather than an apartment. It's about perfectly sized for that.
Living vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
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Johnfred24✭✭✭Johnfred24 wrote: »A free thing can't be "unfair", even if it's rubbish...you don't get to complain about free stuff.
Go do the other faction quests and get their free inn rooms, or better yet - go buy yourself a nice house and decorate the crap out of it!
What kind of logic is that? Of course free things can be unfair...
No they can't.
If it's free it's something for nothing, more than you had before.
Is getting something for nothing unfair?
If every alliance got a free starter item and 2 of them would be great and absolutly OP, but one would be useless than these free items would be unfair and giving an unfair disadvantage to one alliance... Simple as that...1 -
Quigster✭✭✭I agree that the homes are not well balanced between zones and alliances. However, that is just the way it is. Sort of like I can build a fire sorc and incinerate enemies for 10's of thousands of damage, but I can't start a camp / cooking fire. Yeah, just the way it is.(50) Quigster Bosmer Stamplar
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The tiny inn room"Mara's kiss public house" one?
I fit a bunk bed in, a desk with a stool, vase, dog and tea table.
It looks quite decent too at that. You won't fit it against the long wall, but you can put it on line of the short wall in between windows. You can even walk around the bed if needed. That's what I did anyway.CP 389 | PC EU
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✭Im using a bedroll on Mara's kiss since there is no room o fit a bed nicely but im okay with that though..
I still HATE the Rosy lions room, not insides, its great insides but the outside area/Bar area of rosy lion is total crap. The inn's atmorphere is totally ruined by adding that stupid room downstairs there.
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Duiwel✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lol...
OP asking for improvements to a FREE "home"...
How about buy a home and then you can have your bed?
It's called a Inn ROOM not a home OP.
You want a nice spacious home in your precious island?
Here ya go!:
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Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hey guys,
I thought a lot about writing this or not...
but I am real sad about it so I'm gonna do it.
I made a char from each alliance to get all the free starter homes and furnished all of them, beside the AD one, which my only actually played char is from.
It is just not possible to fit a bed in, nicely, and not even close to a desk, bed, dresser, nightstand... all things that fit in perfectly fine in the other starting homes.
I would LOVE to use the Auridon home!! But in the small and weird shape its just not possible, I think that needs to be changed!
Let me know your thoughts.
lol. Just saw the thing and its so small my Nord couldn't fit insideEdited by Enslaved on March 6, 2017 3:03PM3 -
Rylai✭✭Lol...
OP asking for improvements to a FREE "home"...
How about buy a home and then you can have your bed?
It's called a Inn ROOM not a home OP.
You want a nice spacious home in your precious island?
Here ya go!:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukD9CXI8hVA[/vid]
Even if its called A ROOM and not a home, a BED should fit nicely in a ROOM4 -
Armenua✭✭✭I agree with you. After buying homes and furnishing them and other apartments, when I used the Auridon home for a teleport, I felt like I'd been mistakenly been teleported into a closet! It's useless.
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Rylai✭✭I agree with you. After buying homes and furnishing them and other apartments, when I used the Auridon home for a teleport, I felt like I'd been mistakenly been teleported into a closet! It's useless.
Thats exactly what I mean!
I love the game and I'd love to actually use the room, for more then a trashroom!0 -
Rylai✭✭RABIDxWOLVERINE wrote: »That's what you get for being in the Dominion. Damn High Elves...
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KingKush✭✭✭✭[snip]
So what if the house is free or not, if the other 2 starter houses, which are also free, are noticeably larger than the one in AD(which they are) then of course ppl are gonna complain. Choosing a different alliance than the other shouldn't automatically net you with a larger house. That's a design flaw imo.
I personally don't give a *** about housing but getting annoyed at all the unjustified hate OP is getting.
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✭✭✭✭RABIDxWOLVERINE wrote: »That's what you get for being in the Dominion. Damn High Elves...
I'm a Khajiit
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Rylai✭✭[snip]
So what if the house is free or not, if the other 2 starter houses, which are also free, are noticeably larger than the one in AD(which they are) then of course ppl are gonna complain. Choosing a different alliance than the other shouldn't automatically net you with a larger house. That's a design flaw imo.
I personally don't give a *** about housing but getting annoyed at all the unjustified hate OP is getting.
Thanks a lot!
I was really shocked by all this hate.
Your comment means much to me
Edit: you to your
[Edit to match quoted content]Edited by ZOS_Bill on March 6, 2017 3:18PM2 -
Eleusian✭✭✭Maybe the studies ZOS did showed AD characters to have more Gold wealth , and knew they would only use the starter home as a stabbin cabin on the side for secret affairs , and a place to crash after partying in Auridon all night
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Soriana✭✭✭✭✭Might have something to do with the fact the starter zone for AD has a plethora of treasure chests where your characters can make a ton more gold than the other starter zones. Never thought that was fair but all you had to do to benefit from it is make an AD character.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭AD has things to make up for it, such as an abundance of dumb people, two of the three imperial homes, and one Khajiit home that is basically right in the middle of the largest trade hub in the game.
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Dreyfron✭✭✭TheShadowScout wrote: »So what?
If the housing prices in stuck up altmer lands are so high that you get only half the space at the same price...
Forget the coffin hotel, buy some decent home!
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Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Maybe the studies ZOS did showed AD characters to have more Gold wealth , and knew they would only use the starter home as a stabbin cabin on the side for secret affairs , and a place to crash after partying in Auridon all night
I can imagine the shock of an PC EU TF AD hivemind zergling, seing that tiny room where there is no room for 612 of their zerg buddies.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I agree its small but after seeing the loft that player created....well
I need to get some more recipes learned and more mats.......
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colig✭✭✭✭meanwhile (g I will say one thing. apartment in skywatch? is a hell of a deal for 11k you pay for it. ceilings are high enough to add a second floor with no issues whatsoever.
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✭It's claustrophobic indeed, but it has to be that way due to the building structure it's in.PC/DC/NAserver
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nimander99✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Hey guys,
I thought a lot about writing this or not...
but I am real sad about it so I'm gonna do it.
I made a char from each alliance to get all the free starter homes and furnished all of them, beside the AD one, which my only actually played char is from.
It is just not possible to fit a bed in, nicely, and not even close to a desk, bed, dresser, nightstand... all things that fit in perfectly fine in the other starting homes.
I would LOVE to use the Auridon home!! But in the small and weird shape its just not possible, I think that needs to be changed!
Let me know your thoughts.
I don't think the AD free room is all that bad. I lived with just that one home for a little while before I gathered more furnishing plans and took the plunge and decided to purchase a bigger one. I find the little room to be rather sweet I put a second level in mine for a bedroom, so that I was able to add more furniture beneath it.
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✭✭✭✭✭This bothers me, because Vulkhel Guard is where I wanted my crafter to live, but I don't really want him to be stuck in the smallest home in the entire game. I'd be happy to buy something but the only option is that inn room. I was planning to move him up to Skywatch until I found out you can't even pick up crafting writs there. (I know you have to drop them off in set places, mostly on the mainland, but if he could at least pick up and complete the crafting writs in his home city it'd be ok.)
Now I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I suspect I'm going to have to expand his back-story so he gets bored with his retirement on Auridon and moves somewhere a bit more exciting.Edited by Danikat on March 6, 2017 4:36PMPC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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✭I just use them for wayshires I bought a decent home to decorate.Want to become Vampire? 5k @ZiRM in game.ESO Server Status. ( ^_^)o自自o(^_^ ) SkåL!!!!!0 -
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✭Hey guys,
I thought a lot about writing this or not...
but I am real sad about it so I'm gonna do it.
I made a char from each alliance to get all the free starter homes and furnished all of them, beside the AD one, which my only actually played char is from.
It is just not possible to fit a bed in, nicely, and not even close to a desk, bed, dresser, nightstand... all things that fit in perfectly fine in the other starting homes.
I would LOVE to use the Auridon home!! But in the small and weird shape its just not possible, I think that needs to be changed!
Let me know your thoughts.
For now, you can try the one in Skywatch, it's cheap and looks great
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