What to do pvp players that support fair play and do not do AP trading? - They PvP
How such players can become the Emperors? - No one cares who is Emp, Emp trading is not new.
How such players should earn money, if AP is now priceless. - The same way anyone else does.
Pvp ranks are now also worthless. - They've always been worthless.
ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello there,
This post is to let you know that we've felt it necessary to remove the video from the original post. The reason being that naming and shaming is against the Forum Rules. If you wish to report another player please feel free to do so in a support ticket with any evidence you have.
Thank you for understanding.
Well, at least Haderus is full now, there was even a queue
Adding a 10min cooldown after taking a keep could solve this issue easily.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
Other than that I think people need to chill down with the judgemental tone, stop dictating to people what is right and wrong and stop abusing the report function.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
In this case, don't whine when someone use 2 mundus stone bug or abusing another way in pve. mechanics allowed it too. may be you have this point of view because of someone from your guildmates or you "farming" AP at haderus outposts?
Other than that I think people need to chill down with the judgemental tone, stop dictating to people what is right and wrong and stop abusing the report function.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
Oh, im sorry. Gain AP without battles, more then in battles, its "just mechanics" not cheating. ok.
It's pathetic.
Well, at least Haderus is full now, there was even a queue
Adding a 10min cooldown after taking a keep could solve this issue easily.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
In this case, don't whine when someone use 2 mundus stone bug or abusing another way in pve. mechanics allowed it too. may be you have this point of view because of someone from your guildmates or you "farming" AP at haderus outposts?
Double mundus stone was an exploit in that it required you to do a very specific order of tasks in order to get it, and it involved breaking the game. Nothing is being broken here. No faulted line of code is being abused here. If anything it's just poor game design.
If you honestly think this is an exploit then you're very unknowledgeable on MMOs and I wouldn't life an eye brow if next you went and said that animation cancelling is an exploit too... Exactly same for that if you apply your mentality.Other than that I think people need to chill down with the judgemental tone, stop dictating to people what is right and wrong and stop abusing the report function.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
Oh, im sorry. Gain AP without battles, more then in battles, its "just mechanics" not cheating. ok.
It's pathetic.
The only thing pathetic is people being judgemental about it and calling it cheating. That's just ignorant.
Some people always try to push moral implications on others instead of minding their own business.
We can both agree that it's stupid that this is currently the highest AP gain per hour, in the game, though. That is the fault of the developers; not the players. Which is why I proposed they change this before the double AP event.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
In this case, don't whine when someone use 2 mundus stone bug or abusing another way in pve. mechanics allowed it too. may be you have this point of view because of someone from your guildmates or you "farming" AP at haderus outposts?
Double mundus stone was an exploit in that it required you to do a very specific order of tasks in order to get it, and it involved breaking the game. Nothing is being broken here. No faulted line of code is being abused here. If anything it's just poor game design.
If you honestly think this is an exploit then you're very unknowledgeable on MMOs and I wouldn't life an eye brow if next you went and said that animation cancelling is an exploit too... Exactly same for that if you apply your mentality.Other than that I think people need to chill down with the judgemental tone, stop dictating to people what is right and wrong and stop abusing the report function.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
Oh, im sorry. Gain AP without battles, more then in battles, its "just mechanics" not cheating. ok.
It's pathetic.
The only thing pathetic is people being judgemental about it and calling it cheating. That's just ignorant.
Some people always try to push moral implications on others instead of minding their own business.
We can both agree that it's stupid that this is currently the highest AP gain per hour, in the game, though. That is the fault of the developers; not the players. Which is why I proposed they change this before the double AP event.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
In this case, don't whine when someone use 2 mundus stone bug or abusing another way in pve. mechanics allowed it too. may be you have this point of view because of someone from your guildmates or you "farming" AP at haderus outposts?
Double mundus stone was an exploit in that it required you to do a very specific order of tasks in order to get it, and it involved breaking the game. Nothing is being broken here. No faulted line of code is being abused here. If anything it's just poor game design.
If you honestly think this is an exploit then you're very unknowledgeable on MMOs and I wouldn't life an eye brow if next you went and said that animation cancelling is an exploit too... Exactly same for that if you apply your mentality.Other than that I think people need to chill down with the judgemental tone, stop dictating to people what is right and wrong and stop abusing the report function.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
Oh, im sorry. Gain AP without battles, more then in battles, its "just mechanics" not cheating. ok.
It's pathetic.
The only thing pathetic is people being judgemental about it and calling it cheating. That's just ignorant.
Some people always try to push moral implications on others instead of minding their own business.
We can both agree that it's stupid that this is currently the highest AP gain per hour, in the game, though. That is the fault of the developers; not the players. Which is why I proposed they change this before the double AP event.
Cheating is cheating. Quit trying to justify it. It's cheating.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
In this case, don't whine when someone use 2 mundus stone bug or abusing another way in pve. mechanics allowed it too. may be you have this point of view because of someone from your guildmates or you "farming" AP at haderus outposts?
Double mundus stone was an exploit in that it required you to do a very specific order of tasks in order to get it, and it involved breaking the game. Nothing is being broken here. No faulted line of code is being abused here. If anything it's just poor game design.
If you honestly think this is an exploit then you're very unknowledgeable on MMOs and I wouldn't life an eye brow if next you went and said that animation cancelling is an exploit too... Exactly same for that if you apply your mentality.Other than that I think people need to chill down with the judgemental tone, stop dictating to people what is right and wrong and stop abusing the report function.
If people want to trade AP they are in their right to do so - it is within the boundaries of the game mechanics.
If people want to kill people flipping keeps for easy AP they are in their right to do so too - but calling people exploiters and being salty about it is just stupid.
Oh, im sorry. Gain AP without battles, more then in battles, its "just mechanics" not cheating. ok.
It's pathetic.
The only thing pathetic is people being judgemental about it and calling it cheating. That's just ignorant.
Some people always try to push moral implications on others instead of minding their own business.
We can both agree that it's stupid that this is currently the highest AP gain per hour, in the game, though. That is the fault of the developers; not the players. Which is why I proposed they change this before the double AP event.
Cheating is cheating. Quit trying to justify it. It's cheating.
Except it's not - aim your misguided moral slander elsewhere.
Something doesn't become more true just because you agree with yourself and repeat it enough times.
It's pretty simple; if you don't like it go kill the people farming and spare us the moral speech because noone will or should give a sh*t about what other players think. The only ultimate judge on the subject is ZOS.
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »As a former world first PVE'r the thing which is most important is reputation for a guild. When you abuse exploits, of which AP trading is one type of exploitative behaviour you not only diminish the reputation of yourself but also your guild which you proudly list in your forum sig.
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »You can't complain when someone uses cheat engine to beat trial scores, or different bugged gear because that's also something which is 'allowed in the game' whether it be against ToS or not.
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »The ToS include the fact that you cant 'roleplay' someone who breaks ToS. e.g. RP a scammer and scam people because roleplay is not an excuse for breaking ToS. You are using the game mechanics inappropriately and in an 'unintended' manor.
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Your animation cancelling argument is incorrect because ZoS has already said that this is acceptable behaviour and its now a feature of the game. Until ZOS says "Yes you should flip keeps with enemy factions without fighting them" its an exploit and it will always be one.
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Defending a toxic community makes you part of that toxicity no matter how much you pretend you are against it but 'just have no choice'.
"I never actually said that I was participating in the keep flipping, that is your conclusion"
" I don't think you should be afraid of what I do as a single person in PvP will hurt the reputation of Hodor's PvE achievement as a guild"
"I know you're implying I should feel ashasmed if I am taking part in keep flipping, expecially because I am in Hodor, but what you think is of no consequence to me;"
"Are you seriously comparing the use of cheat engine - a third party program, to playing the game in a way the developers did not intend? If not then I don't understand this sentence."
"The only toxicity on this subject is coming from the people who is calling it expoiting, naming and shaming, and herassing people in game over it"
"Why are you talking about role playing now?"
"I do however have an opinion on people who think they should dictate how others play the game when the only ones who have that right are ZOS"
"EDIT: This will be my last comment on the subject"
ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello there,
This post is to let you know that we've felt it necessary to remove the video from the original post. The reason being that naming and shaming is against the Forum Rules. If you wish to report another player please feel free to do so in a support ticket with any evidence you have.
Thank you for understanding.
ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello there,
This post is to let you know that we've felt it necessary to remove the video from the original post. The reason being that naming and shaming is against the Forum Rules. If you wish to report another player please feel free to do so in a support ticket with any evidence you have.
Thank you for understanding.
How can you name and shame someone for a mechanic that is working as "intended".