blabafat wrote: »

It's because pvp wasn't as full as usual

People were doing the new pve content

THIS X2

Bashev wrote: »

We need something to be done because we have empty campaigns dominated by one alliance.

Not sure whether I agree on this. Obviously some ppl like playing in a campaign where they have supporters all around and only one or two (normally smaller) bands of enemies to fiddle with. And obviously some other ppl like the challenge to be in a camp with almost no help and overwhelming odds against you. Why take the fun away from both?

So.... no improvement? We really need improvement on console..

Docmandu wrote: »

Alas.. was looking at 400-500 ping responses a few times yesterday.. also had the impression that the ping display isn't always that truthful, couple of times where abilities felt lagging while the ping meter was showing 120.

CC break + weapon swap followup is still an issue.. making CC even more problematic than it already is.

@Docmandu @ZOS_BrianWheeler

I have also experienced the mysterious '120' latency as well, this was in Azuras and Haderus. Strange that it was exactly 120 as well, yet everything was sluggish, people where rubber banding or noticeably blobbing on my screen. Response times of abilities and swapping weapons where so sluggish I'd have argued I would have been in 400-500 latency, but the meter (and an addon) firmly said 120.

This happened maybe on three occasions, randomly, very spread out of one another.

was sitting at 100-150 ping during primetime TF with all factions locked, DC AD and EP zergs everywhere

Everywhere = more spread as usual and imo this could be a helpful detail for Brian.

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

For clarification... population in Trueflame PC US last night was at nearly the same population as it was the Monday prior, give or take a dozen or so players. Currently looking at the EU servers right now (as of 2 pm EST), they are at the same population as they were last week at this time so we'd appreciate any feedback coming this afternoon from Trueflame in the EU!

As pointed out in this thread however, we will see what the coming week holds. In the meantime thank you for the support and we will continue our efforts to nail down performance!

Thanks for your efforts @ZOS_BrianWheeler

If players were not doing the new pve content, I assume that some of your colleagues think that these kind of statistics are pretty much unexpected during prime right after an update like this.

However, what I think is that you basically have 3 more potential hotspots with captured towns now.
At least these are 3 factors that splits overall players and results in less population for partial areas.

Don't you think this could be a factor for better performance as well but very situational?
I know that you are analyzing in detail but did you actually consider this case?

visionality wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

We need something to be done because we have empty campaigns dominated by one alliance.

Not sure whether I agree on this. Obviously some ppl like playing in a campaign where they have supporters all around and only one or two (normally smaller) bands of enemies to fiddle with. And obviously some other ppl like the challenge to be in a camp with almost no help and overwhelming odds against you. Why take the fun away from both?

For one I like the challenges. I play on Scourge PS4 EU. EP Usually has 2 full bars in Scourge. Scourge is mostly considered empty. Because of hardly any AD and DC. (Mostly DC) However Scourge was deleted by accident and returned in 2 weeks.

Since I like challenge (also stuck In Scourge since it only Campaign that agrees with me) I been helping both AD and DC. Dc when they do decide to push. But I will mostly be AD since there pushing more. At this time. I also love Scourge and have fun in there. I also been asked how do I have the patience to play in Scourge.

Alcast wrote: »

I really recommend waiting about 3 weeks before judging if stuff improved or not.
After every patch "lag" seems to be less and 2-3weeks later we are back to the old stuff, just sayin.

This.

Maybe even 1 month. When something is added on PvP people always spread between those who goes there and those who stays and do what they do as usuall same was with IC introduction and last IC changes. People just spread but how long can this last?..

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

The big thing we're looking for is combat responsiveness in battles. Are you pressing action keys and they're not firing for several seconds? Are abilities "storing up" and unleashing all at once because no inputs from you went through? Is chat not taking message inputs for several seconds? All of these bits of information help us nail down server performance. As you're reporting sometimes that latency meter is acting wonky, so any reports about how combat is going as opposed to "my meter went red" is very helpful!

I'm on Xbox and I have all of the above happening, except the chat issues.

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

The big thing we're looking for is combat responsiveness in battles. Are you pressing action keys and they're not firing for several seconds? Are abilities "storing up" and unleashing all at once because no inputs from you went through? Is chat not taking message inputs for several seconds? All of these bits of information help us nail down server performance. As you're reporting sometimes that latency meter is acting wonky, so any reports about how combat is going as opposed to "my meter went red" is very helpful!

Yes.

I notice no difference since the last major overhaul you did @ZOS_BrianWheeler a few months(?) ago. My ping is always between 80-120 , YET the repressiveness in fights and even 1v1 is often very poor. Abilities are sluggish, unleash, get stuck and are overall unpredictable. To me this is worse then actual lag because the game does not feel right, it leads to button mashing and hoping the server figures it out, or pre-mashing where you simply try to pre-use abilities before you should actually use them. Nothing is crisp...

I get the impression that abilities miss or act very weird because what's on my screen is not what's on the other players screen, the server is having a hell of a hard time figuring out which one to pick.

For example: Last night someone rode by me on a horse and I jumped then with ambush/dawnbreaker/suprise attack - all three abilities missed, he then jumped off his horse and my next 3 attacks missed..I was not able to hit him and yet he was able to hit me. I logged because this happens often and is very frustrating, it's clearly a server issue, my pink was 90 and fps was 100.

I have gone so far as to diagnose my computer /network and packets, but my conclusion is the servers checks and balances are just bad as this point and the ping has zero indication on actual game latency.

All this started to happened with the cheat engine changes went into place and the quality of game play has gone down a lot.

If you recall people in DAOC were intentionally flooding packets to cause lag in fights, this isn't that bad , but the feeling is similar.

If what I'm doing on my screen is not actually happening accurately on the server, then you have a major issue on your hands.