Unless you are a healer we got nothing but nerfs, but even healing itself got nerfed this update. If we come out ahead it will be through indirect changes that work to our advantage like talons + dodgeroll nerf, or from being forced to be creative to remain relevant.

Tanky Stam dk op right now.

flame lash - less heal returned but 25% more damage to off balance sounds pretty good.
wall of elements/wall of fire looks better, guess I need to try it out.

other than that molten arm and some others nerfed.

Armitas wrote: »

Unless you are a healer we got nothing but nerfs, but even healing itself got nerfed this update. If we come out ahead it will be through indirect changes that work to our advantage like talons + dodgeroll nerf, or from being forced to be creative to remain relevant.

Im with ya, I was killed by 2 scrub blues out in pvp today because they nerfed tanks so hard. Im finding it very hard to continue playing at the moment, DK's are in a rough situation.

Dps wise they still suck ass.. Stam tank DK is stronger than ever, because of the damage nerf and how good it synergies with battle roar.

I think Stam DKs will be the top of the food chain... Check out lefty Lucy's and scribes build

Stamina DK is good, but honestly Stamina NB is very strong right now. Even magicka NB. If you guys look at what sypher and king richard have been running, they've been playing a lot as NB as well, but if you notice, they've been playing other classes as well (i'll explain this below). By the way, to the OP stamina templar is quite good.

Quite honestly, people keep saying that one class is the top, but the Meta on Live is different than what the meta was when PTS first started, and now starting to become different from what PTS was near the end. People were clamoring for stamina dk. But the meta changes as people figure out new builds and new combinations. Honestly in ESO it is a game that is still maturing. People say FOTM. No such thing in eso, it is more like FOTBW (flavor of the bi-weekly). Why bi-weekly? One because a patch is released every month about, or per ZOS guidelines on release schedule. Two because once a patch is released, it takes about two weeks after a patch for the meta to reach steady state (although it does depend on how much "fixing" ZOS did with every release of a patch). Don't believe me? If you played PTS from mid to end (which is basically Live) and Live now, there is a difference in meta. There is another reason why this meta takes time as well: Because Live obviously has more players (Not too many people play PTS on PC. Remember that more than twice the number of players are on console compared to PC) and thus you are more likely to run into a lot more variety of builds. When a class/build becomes "FOTM", it is because it has become successful on average in dominating other players. But to reach such a state, you'd have to compete against a large sample size to ensure that such a build is successful, and that obviously doesn't happen in one day. You know...math right? The greater the population sample size for which to compare something, the greater it's statistical power. Sooo...one says stamina DK, I say Stamina NB/Magicka NB, another says Stamina Sorcerer, another says stamina Templar. If there is one thing you can count on at the moment, stamina is still alive, but so is magicka. The other thing? Due to increase in battle spirit damage reduction with this patch and with of course the long ago removal of soft caps , it now becomes trying to find the right answer to the right question:

Now that everyone's damage has been nerfed through increased damage reduction in PvP, who can put out the most dps in the shortest amount of time while at the same time maintaining adequate resources to support me through this endeavor to prevent the other player from having a chance of surviving?