Ticare wrote: »

Honestly at the end of the day it doesn't come down to story or lore or anything like that, it all comes down to races. When people create a character there's 2 main things they look at first, the class and the race. And if we had the 3 least popular races in the game, DC would have 2 of those (redguard and orc). That's the reason why unfortunately they will always be the least popular faciton

It depends on the player. I mentioned a number of factors discussed by others, but added a new one. Not everyone chooses based primarily on racial bonuses, even if many do.

Ticare wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Ticare wrote: »

Honestly at the end of the day it doesn't come down to story or lore or anything like that, it all comes down to races. When people create a character there's 2 main things they look at first, the class and the race. And if we had the 3 least popular races in the game, DC would have 2 of those (redguard and orc). That's the reason why unfortunately they will always be the least popular faciton

It depends on the player. I mentioned a number of factors discussed by others, but added a new one. Not everyone chooses based primarily on racial bonuses, even if many do.

I didn't mean racial bonuses though, i meant the races in general. I've been playing elder scrolls games for almost a decade and followed all kinds of discussions about the games. When people talk about races that they like, i can't EVER remember someone mentioning orcs or redguards during all this time. There's just nothing appealing about those races compared to other races in the game.

Which is why they need to develop them more (such as fleshing out Orcs with the release of Orsinium) and also try to tie Covenant races into the Alliance War in a more interesting way. It just seems uninspired at the moment. They have a lot to work with, and I'm sure they keep an eye on the numbers of characters created in each race. Apparently they have considered adding an active ability unique to each race in the game, but they haven't seriously pursued it.

I remember seeing a review of ESO where the reviewer called the DC areas boring, which is why he believed there haven't been any games set in those areas. Luckily commenters did bring up the fact that Bethesda has made more than one game set in this region but it really shows how little people know or care about any of the ES games made before Morrowind.

I don't understand the whole "DC is boring" thing though. I know that European-inspired areas aren't exactly ground-breaking, but what about the Middle Eastern inspired Hammerfell? How many games have areas based on that region...that aren't "War on Terror FPS" games? The biggest problem with DC is there's not much going on with the Orcs. They get one island and that's it. Hopefully Wrothgar will give people a reason to like Tamriel's badass underdogs.

I will add that DC has the greatest possibility of working. And by that I mean there's a 10% chance they'll actually continue working together for a few years. The problem with the factions is that everyone hates each other, but at least Bretons and Redguard occasionally get along.

technohic wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Not just competing for cool scenery , EP zones also have a luxury of wayshrines every where . I was doing Cadwells Gold an just going , why the hell does EP get so many easy to travel spots ? You better learn to walk if you're DC ! We ain't gots no wayshrines like those upscale folk ...

Yeah; and when we do have wayshrines, they are as inconvenient as possible. Just look at Daggerfall City.

EDIT: The bank and most of the crafting stations are on the exact opposite side of town and the streets were drawn up by a child with a crayon just randomly scribbling.

Shornhelm is a good place for crafting though.

Subtomik wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Subtomik wrote: »

Because we doesnt afraid of anything, and being the underdog is 10X more rewarding than zerg surfing your way to victory.

@Subtomik We Doesn't afraid of anything?

Are you positive me dropping oil on you that one day at Glademist didn't leave behind any lingering effects?

I will honestly bathe in oil until the cows come home. Show me a group that makes me back up and panic when I see then we will talk.

I'm here to rek face an steal your wimmenz

I should make you back up and panic. Here's why. @Subtomik I'm not your average AD...
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roechacca wrote: »

DC dive head first into a sea of red every night thinking death is inevitable only to say how the hell did we kill all them after . Thornblade NA DC are the toughest wills to break .

But... But... Shouldn't you be red then?

People go to EP because omg Skyrim Nords are badass fus roh dah i want a horned helmet.
People go to AD because Elf lovers Legolas pew pew and i can be a ninja stealthy dark assassin cat
People roll DC because it's not as lame as the two others. Plus they don't want to play alongside scale-backs or alley cats

EU DC do have good players, but my point is that DC have as many players as the other factions on the EU megaserver. That is at least true on EU Chillrend and EU Thornblade where I play.

hey come on now im a breton fighting for the AD.

Sphinx2318 wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Detroit Lions fans may be partial to DC...you never know...

sigh.....and I realized during the Super Bowl halftime show that Katie Perry was riding the only Lion I will ever see in the Super Bowl.

Heh.

frozywozy wrote: »

Mordack wrote: »

I remember seeing a review of ESO where the reviewer called the DC areas boring, which is why he believed there haven't been any games set in those areas. Luckily commenters did bring up the fact that Bethesda has made more than one game set in this region but it really shows how little people know or care about any of the ES games made before Morrowind.

I don't understand the whole "DC is boring" thing though. I know that European-inspired areas aren't exactly ground-breaking, but what about the Middle Eastern inspired Hammerfell? How many games have areas based on that region...that aren't "War on Terror FPS" games? The biggest problem with DC is there's not much going on with the Orcs. They get one island and that's it. Hopefully Wrothgar will give people a reason to like Tamriel's badass underdogs.

I will add that DC has the greatest possibility of working. And by that I mean there's a 10% chance they'll actually continue working together for a few years. The problem with the factions is that everyone hates each other, but at least Bretons and Redguard occasionally get along.

technohic wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Not just competing for cool scenery , EP zones also have a luxury of wayshrines every where . I was doing Cadwells Gold an just going , why the hell does EP get so many easy to travel spots ? You better learn to walk if you're DC ! We ain't gots no wayshrines like those upscale folk ...

Yeah; and when we do have wayshrines, they are as inconvenient as possible. Just look at Daggerfall City.

EDIT: The bank and most of the crafting stations are on the exact opposite side of town and the streets were drawn up by a child with a crayon just randomly scribbling.

Shornhelm is a good place for crafting though.

I personally think that DC areas are the most beautiful in the game. and several guildies share the same opinion. Just the story being DC could be worked on to encourage people to roll for that faction instead of the others.

I also like the DC Alliance zones. That aspect is very subjective.

Personally my favorite zones in game are the North-East corner of Cyrodiil, basically Arrius, Kingscrest, Farragut, @Armitas or @vortexman11 or @Psilent can explain why. The other zones that are the most beautiful in my opinion are Rivenspire, Eastmarch, Glenumbra, Alik'r Desert, and the Craglorn Public Dungeons.

Best alliance in game, Aldmeri Dominion, cause... Pointy ear, golden girl, fetish.

BUT! @ZOS_BrianWheeler Implement an Imperial faction for us loyalists.