Sharee wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

Fought a templar last night who used this on me at least 3 times. Shield charged him each time & put an end to it. Aside from the fact that it currently ignore LOS, I don't see what people are complaining about.

If my nightblade got a spell called 'finger of death' that would simply kill you everytime regardless of anything else, would you be okay with it as long as it is a 3 second channel that you can interrupt?

Because that's what i'm hearing a lot in this thread. "It is okay because you can just interrupt it!"

But it doesn't kill you everytime regardless of anything else, so what was your point again?

My point is that "you can just interrupt it" does not make an obviously overpowered ability (like my hypothetical finger of death) any less overpowered.

Thus if you want to ague that radiant destruction is not overpowered, use a different reasoning.

You see, you're comparing two completely different abilities and that's not how it works.

"Finger of death" is example of a (theoretical) obviously overpowered ability. Would making it interruptable make it not overpowered? No.

Therefore, if you want to convince someone who thinks that radiant destruction is overpowered, that it in fact is not, you will have to do better than just say "but it can be interrupted", for the reason above.

I don't know how much clearer i could explain this point.

You don't seem to understand that it IS an okay explanation because the ability ISN'T "Finger of Death". That is why your argument is ***. The abilities you want to compare aren't on the same level. Using your comparison I could call an ability that does 100 damage over a 3 second channel overpowered because I die to it if I don't interrupt it while I'm at 100 or less health.

Radiant Oppression may not be completely balanced (I'd agree with lowering the execute bonus slightly to maybe start at 40%), but it is far from overpowered.

Subtomik wrote: »

Ok, delay on cast, has to be channeled, no stun, no heal debuff, no snare.

Yes it is bugged going through Walls and that needs to be fixed ASAP, but how in gods name is it broken in a damage sense lol.

I really think people are just not realizing that with instant backlash we will be able to pump out good burst dps.

When I get within execute range of sorcs, and nb's I react accordingly.

Some bad made an AD temp named radiant destruction and he tried to spam it to absolutely no effect. I have not had it KB me once on the PTS, meanwhile im still getting snipe spammed constantly.

When the other 3 classes get a channeled ability that can 1 shot most players, you can have an execute.

Sound fair?

While testing, Radiant has been hitting for 20k+.

Templars and Sorcerer are by far the most powerful classes on test right now, so I don't understand the complaining.

kijima wrote: »

Come on guys, own up. It's OP as hell and you know it.

But they want to be the FOTM so they aren't going to own up. They want this to get into live.

Bouvin wrote: »

Subtomik wrote: »

Ok, delay on cast, has to be channeled, no stun, no heal debuff, no snare.

Yes it is bugged going through Walls and that needs to be fixed ASAP, but how in gods name is it broken in a damage sense lol.

I really think people are just not realizing that with instant backlash we will be able to pump out good burst dps.

When I get within execute range of sorcs, and nb's I react accordingly.

Some bad made an AD temp named radiant destruction and he tried to spam it to absolutely no effect. I have not had it KB me once on the PTS, meanwhile im still getting snipe spammed constantly.

When the other 3 classes get a channeled ability that can 1 shot most players, you can have an execute.

Sound fair?

While testing, Radiant has been hitting for 20k+.

Templars and Sorcerer are by far the most powerful classes on test right now, so I don't understand the complaining.

God you're thick.... Yes a radiant in the right circumstance can do 20k over 3 seconds. The total time from using it to finish casting is something aroudn 3.7 seconds. Now, lets compare... there are links to single lethal arrows hitting for more than 20k peppering the forums right now.... so.... apparnently lethal arrow is more OP than radiant since its got less cast time and a heal debuff....

Or compare that 20k damage in ideal circumstances to maybe an ideal scenario with 3 impales (almost 4, tested it this morning)? They damage is the same. How some of the people in this thread are calculating damage is ludicrous. They see 20k damage on their death recap and don't realize thats cumulative and start comparing it to a single use of other instant cast abilities or 1 letah arrow... in 3.7 secconds thats 3 lethal arrows... which is a helluva lot more than 20k damage on PTS right now. Even in bad circumstances thats 30k+ damage with 3 lethal arrows right now.



As for the other guy saying being interruptable isn't an argument against why something isn't overpowered, yes that is exactly what it is. Sure there are other reasons it is not overpowered, but it is still something to consider because a good player will interrupt making this ability very hard to get off on decent players who are either in bash range or run interrupts (basically everyone and their mother). This ability, in time, as people learn it is worth interrupting will literally get interrupted all the time. Given its damage bonus stems from both having to be channeled (which is interruptable) have max magicka (lol when is that ever true) and has a delay on using it makes it easily balanced. As many have stated the los issue will be fixed. But its laughable to see people here who used the exact same "just interrupt" excuse or "just dodge excuse" on lethal arrow complainers now saying well just interrupt isn't a good excuse for an ability that does LESS DPS than lethal arrow spam.



Just remember guys, you can get almost 4 impales off in the time it takes to fully cast radiant, you can get 3 lethal arrows and partially casted the 4 off in the time it takes to fully cast radiant, you can cast 3 wrecking blows in the time it takes to fully cast radiant....

Compare the damages and laugh, because, for example, lethal arrow is still better (and is a heal debuff to boot). Coupled with it being an ability that makes the caster super vulnerable, slow to actually react and put the damage up, and interruptable. Its the only execute in the game now that you can actually completely avoid as long as you aren't a 1 button mashing scrub.