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Ventrilo issue with ESO

Tetrax
Tetrax
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Hi,

I am having a issue with ESO and Ventrilo. ESO is preventing Ventrilo from working in the background either in game or on the loading screen. I am using push-to-talk with my mouse's wheel. Ventrilo works fine from the desktop. Ventrilo works fine with any other program on top of it i.e: Firefox, VLC Player, Blizzard's laucher and all Blizzard's games but as soon as ESO's laucher is on top or if the game is on top my microphone doesn't "open" (The red speaker does not turn green while I'm holding the push-to-talk key). If my game and/or laucher is open but I'm either on top of the desktop or any other program the mic does "open" and if I hold it "open" then I alt-tab to either ESO's laucher or in the game the microphone then stays stuck in "open" until I either close Ventrilo or I reclick my push-to-talk key from anywhere else than ESO's launcher or the game.

On a side note it might be worth mentioning that my buddy and I have the same exact PC; there is not a single difference between specs and parts included configuration, drivers and settings (I built both) and his damn Ventrilo is working fine plus he is able to fire up the *** launcher without having to run it in administrator mode... which I cannot.

I been having a lot of issues with this game since it's been out and I'm pretty fed up so please don't deflect this problem on possible driver problems or blaming Ventrilo.

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  • ZOS_HugoP
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    Greetings @‌Tetrax,

    Have you tried binding another key for the push-to-talk? That kind of problem could be caused by your bind key being the same as a key used by the game.

    Please also make sure to deactivate the overlay if you have one.
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  • Saerydoth
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    Tetrax wrote: »
    Hi,

    I am having a issue with ESO and Ventrilo. ESO is preventing Ventrilo from working in the background either in game or on the loading screen. I am using push-to-talk with my mouse's wheel. Ventrilo works fine from the desktop. Ventrilo works fine with any other program on top of it i.e: Firefox, VLC Player, Blizzard's laucher and all Blizzard's games but as soon as ESO's laucher is on top or if the game is on top my microphone doesn't "open" (The red speaker does not turn green while I'm holding the push-to-talk key). If my game and/or laucher is open but I'm either on top of the desktop or any other program the mic does "open" and if I hold it "open" then I alt-tab to either ESO's laucher or in the game the microphone then stays stuck in "open" until I either close Ventrilo or I reclick my push-to-talk key from anywhere else than ESO's launcher or the game.

    On a side note it might be worth mentioning that my buddy and I have the same exact PC; there is not a single difference between specs and parts included configuration, drivers and settings (I built both) and his damn Ventrilo is working fine plus he is able to fire up the *** launcher without having to run it in administrator mode... which I cannot.

    I been having a lot of issues with this game since it's been out and I'm pretty fed up so please don't deflect this problem on possible driver problems or blaming Ventrilo.

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    It's not an issue with the game or with Ventrilo. This is being caused by UAC. The only thing you can do is to run both ESO and Ventrilo as administrator, turn off UAC, or install ESO somewhere else other than the Program Files folder.

    It's for reasons like this that you should never ever ever install games in the Program Files folder on Windows Vista or later.
    Edited by Saerydoth on May 31, 2014 2:48AM
  • Sakiri
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    Game doesnt even install there by default. It installs in Documents.
  • Cogo
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    Um, our guild been using vent since launch. Never a problem with it.
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  • Tetrax
    Tetrax
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    Saerydoth wrote: »

    It's not an issue with the game or with Ventrilo. This is being caused by UAC. The only thing you can do is to run both ESO and Ventrilo as administrator, turn off UAC, or install ESO somewhere else other than the Program Files folder.

    It's for reasons like this that you should never ever ever install games in the Program Files folder on Windows Vista or later.

    Thanks Saerydoth,

    I had a feeling it was gonna be something stupid like that but I was unaware of these issues with Windows. Deactivating the UAC then running both Ventrilo and ESO in admin mode did fix my problem. I will follow your advice and reinstall the game somewhere else and see if I can work around always loading it in admin mode.
  • wrlifeboil
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    I can't believe that some of you actually allow programs to run as administrator on your pc in the 21st century. Are you all using Windows 95?
  • Saerydoth
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    Tetrax wrote: »
    Saerydoth wrote: »

    It's not an issue with the game or with Ventrilo. This is being caused by UAC. The only thing you can do is to run both ESO and Ventrilo as administrator, turn off UAC, or install ESO somewhere else other than the Program Files folder.

    It's for reasons like this that you should never ever ever install games in the Program Files folder on Windows Vista or later.

    Thanks Saerydoth,

    I had a feeling it was gonna be something stupid like that but I was unaware of these issues with Windows. Deactivating the UAC then running both Ventrilo and ESO in admin mode did fix my problem. I will follow your advice and reinstall the game somewhere else and see if I can work around always loading it in admin mode.

    You don't have to do both. You have to either run both as admin *or* disable UAC. Or just move ESO to somewhere other than program files, then you won't have to worry about admin or UAC. I just made a C:\Games directory that I put all my games in so I won't have this issue.

    The root cause here is Windows Vista and later act REALLY stupid when it comes to the Program Files folder. It's generally ok to install non-games in Program Files, but don't install games there.
    Edited by Saerydoth on June 3, 2014 3:53AM
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