just did a dungeon run and im saying it again

Diminish · June 8

This isn't really an issue on any of the newer dungeons. At most, you speak to an NPC at the start, and at the finish. ZOS should just update older dungeons to behave the same way, and as long as you are not AFK at the start there is little to no chance you will miss out completing the dungeon quest.

If you are there to actually read/listen to all the dialog, then that's more of a 'you' problem than it is of the person speed running through. Form a like-minded group for that, or go at it solo on normal difficulty is the best solution.

FurryCandyHearts · June 8

I'm looking at you elden hollow or whatev its calledrunning down the waterfall to get to the quest starter and the runners pulled agro as they ran past leaving you alone to fight your way through them to get to the quest starter.

Daoin · June 8

even though last i checked even speedrun was there in headling in the group finder for group creation, its just i dont know to expect everyone joining at the same time as another random player to be able to steamroll through dungeon content at rapid speeds

ivaylo.krumoveb17_ESO · June 8

Daoin wrote: »

why does nobody just admit yet that end game players join normal and vet dundeons to flame on people and get new players flaming

I don't even read the chat. I don't flame and i don't care if someone flames me. I do not say hello, nor ggty, i just make a beeline to the end boss and that is that. Do not blame me, blame ZOS, this is the way the game is designed.

DoofusMax · June 8

I'm going to chime back in on this because it just happened: spent 15-ish minutes in the PC EU queue for the daily random (normal), queue popped to Moonhunter Keep, immediately asked "quest, please?", speedrunners at the front blasted in as soon as the door opened, tried to pick up the quest on my own (with another lowbie also trying), and we couldn't even get the quest before the speedrunners were pulling us into a boss fight. I said a few choice words in group chat, left the group, left the instance, and found that I couldn't even requeue for 13 more minutes. This was one of the extremely rare times when I actually rage-quit a game.

ZOS, you created the incentive that ruins this stuff for a lot of us. It's on you to either disincentivize or provide the workaround. And it's not like I've never done Moonhunter Keep before, so it was minimally the 5-ish extra seconds that SOMEBODY could not spare to let me and another lowbie get the skill point. Fix what you broke!

Orbital78 · June 8

One thing I've learned to do is accept quests ahead of time. Only a small number of base games are much of an issue. Some have been patched, some maybe not.

As long as there is no voice chat, there will always be some comm barriers for me. Don't hate the player, it is the game.

dubq77 · June 8

I feel like the OPs opinion on this sounds pretty out of touch. Veteran players have every right to play normal content, be it for XP, rewards, etc. whatever the reason. To call it the "kiddie pool" is a bit much. Not everyone wants to do a vet dlc dungeon, or has the time to sink into some of them.

The quest stuff is definitely a communication issue and could be easily solved if people actually made the effort to communicate with their random groupmates.

This reminds me of a time I was in Craglorn, running Spell Scar to level new subclass skills and some dude freaks out in zone chat on me that because I'm over LVL 2000 that I must be 40+, have no life and spend all my time on this game; and that players "like me" should leave these zones to newer players (completely ignoring the fact that Crag was originally a high level group content zone). Like give me a break. The entitlement is real.

Arunei · June 8

Holy sweeping generalizations, Batman.

I'm a little over 1,800 CP, been playing since closed beta. Have taken maybe a year and a half total hiatus from the game over the years for a variety of reasons. I'm a vet and fairly experienced, but I don't enjoy doing harder or more time-consuming content. I mostly RP and when I do content it's usually questing to unlock things like Houses or event stuff like Witches Fest. When I have new characters to level, I'll do Normal Randoms because again, I don't want to do harder content even though I'm entirely capable of it. I prefer sticking with easier things.

I don't want to be forced into content I don't like doing, thank you. Just because I'm a vet doesn't mean squat. I don't run ahead when people are questing and if I see someone hanging back for whatever reason, I usually stay closer to them than anyone who's charging ahead.

Is it annoying when people run ahead at Mach Jesus when you're trying to do the quest? Yes, it very much is. But at the same time is that going to be the only time you ever run that dungeon ever in the rest of the time you play the game? No. You can always finish the quest another time. I still think people who want to rush should also have the "if you want to play X way form your own group" thing put at them like it's put on those who don't want to rush through a dungeon, but they can't be forced into doing that any more than you can be forced into doing it, OP.

""High level"" does not mean someone is capable of playing harder content, either. ""High level"" only indicates how long someone has played, it does NOT indicate skill or ability. So please don't sit here and say that all ""high level"" people should be banned from doing general content in the game when not nearly all of us act like jerks. It's highly ironic that you claim people just wanting to play the game are selfish, when you wanting a whole group of people banned just because of how some people act is just as selfish.

Nihilr · June 8

I'll say it again: Storymode for solos to complete quests for the zone.
Wolf dungeons better just be a start...

Dojohoda · 2:54AM

Quest pickup for DLCs: If you're in a dlc dungeon and you cannot pick up the quest because players have already started the dungeon, open the Stories (navigate to Collections, and then select Stories), choose the dlc dungeon you are in, and accept the quest there.

AScarlato · 3:18AM

Nihilr wrote: »

I'll say it again: Storymode for solos to complete quests for the zone.
Wolf dungeons better just be a start...

At this point only if these don't take up too much from getting actual new stories.

I honestly think this would have been nice if we had these all along, but I'm not interested in doing 10 year old quests I can create groups for if it takes too much out of new things to do.