SUPRISE ! People dont like VENGEANCE

SkillzMFG · June 8

If all the PvE Andies claiming they love Vengenace in this thread jumped onto Vegeance, maybe it wouldn't have ZERO players in peak hours after a major Patch release.

LMAO

L_Nici · June 8

SkillzMFG wrote: »

If all the PvE Andies claiming they love Vengenace in this thread jumped onto Vegeance, maybe it wouldn't have ZERO players in peak hours after a major Patch release.

LMAO

Yeah, its amazing. Everyone told them that is what would happen, as long as there is a choice, Vengeance is dead. It never even reached 2 bars today on release.

React · June 8

PC EU Primetime Vengeance population numbers, day one. At minimum, GH has more players than vengeance. It's hard to say how many more, since I believe one bar in vengeance on PC UI represents 0-99 players, while 2 bars represents 100-199 players. Pop locked GH is 360? With 50+ in queue. But there are also going to be a number of people who don't even bother playing PVP when they get home from work and realize they need to wait in a 1-2 hour queue just to get into grey host.

Controller/Console UI

Keyboard/PC UI

Alosis · June 8

Vengence on PC NA shows about 70 players on the overall scoreboard. 46 of them are EP and reds have taken over the map, likely because there is no competition from other factions.

SneaK · June 8

Vengeance has none of the U50 updates, literally, no masteries, no werewolf, nothing. It’s a terrible game mode for existing players. If they really intend on it being some sort of on ramp for new players they need to fix their marketing, most people have no clue ESO is a PvP game, because all the marketing is story driven cinematics.

It’s a shame so much resources have been put on this, can’t wait to sit in an hour long GH queue tonight during my 2 hour play window. Awesome.

Arboz · June 8

Im done with the Game, for sure I wont wait in a queue each evening now, in order to be able to visit Cyrodiil.
Time for new games, with smarter devs in case of PvP.
The Troll greets anyone who fought against him or at his side and wishes you all the best! .

alternatelder · June 8

SneaK wrote: »

Vengeance has none of the U50 updates, literally, no masteries, no werewolf, nothing. It’s a terrible game mode for existing players. If they really intend on it being some sort of on ramp for new players they need to fix their marketing, most people have no clue ESO is a PvP game, because all the marketing is story driven cinematics.

It’s a shame so much resources have been put on this, can’t wait to sit in an hour long GH queue tonight during my 2 hour play window. Awesome.

It's an mmorpg with pvp...like every mmo. Not a pvp game. Face the reality, not a single person will ever think of pvp when it comes to a TES game, 99% of the playerbase joined for story rich pve content.

SneaK · June 8

alternatelder wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Vengeance has none of the U50 updates, literally, no masteries, no werewolf, nothing. It’s a terrible game mode for existing players. If they really intend on it being some sort of on ramp for new players they need to fix their marketing, most people have no clue ESO is a PvP game, because all the marketing is story driven cinematics.

It’s a shame so much resources have been put on this, can’t wait to sit in an hour long GH queue tonight during my 2 hour play window. Awesome.

It's an mmorpg with pvp...like every mmo. Not a pvp game. Face the reality, not a single person will ever think of pvp when it comes to a TES game, 99% of the playerbase joined for story rich pve content.

Then why invest in Vengeance?

And for the record, I have never played another TES game and solely came to ESO at launch for Cyrodiil, wasn’t alone.

BardokRedSnow · June 8

First, they said Vengeance IS coming ._.

Now, Vengeance IS here ._.

*Cracks knuckles* oh yea now thats what I'm talking about, thats REAL skill based PvP bro, sweatlords beware.

We're so back, this is gonna show all those Greyhost enjoyers for sure bro.

Bernz007 · June 8

MMORPG Fails of 2026....Ashes of Creation...ESO's Vengeance might be next

React · 12:20AM

PC/NA Primetime Population numbers, day one. Even worse than my previous post from PC EU earlier today during their primetime.

Controller/Console UI - Queue started at 100, I took this screenshot 30+ minutes after queuing.

Keyboard/PC UI - Queue started at 100, I took this screenshot 30+ minutes after queuing.

Gabriel_H · 12:37AM

React wrote: »

Keyboard/PC UI - Queue started at 100, I took this screenshot 30+ minutes after queuing.

So there were about 360 in GH and 300 in Vengeance. Or how about a snapshot now?

So 300 in Vengeance and 160 in GH.

ZOS are not turning this ship around. They may alter Vengeance but even if they do the fundamental base of it will still be a system with less server calculations, less HoTs, less DoTs, less AoEs, less targets hit, less procs - because those things are what are causing the performance issues.

fizzybeef · 3:21AM

Gabriel_H wrote: »

React wrote: »

Keyboard/PC UI - Queue started at 100, I took this screenshot 30+ minutes after queuing.

So there were about 360 in GH and 300 in Vengeance. Or how about a snapshot now?

So 300 in Vengeance and 160 in GH.

ZOS are not turning this ship around. They may alter Vengeance but even if they do the fundamental base of it will still be a system with less server calculations, less HoTs, less DoTs, less AoEs, less targets hit, less procs - because those things are what are causing the performance issues.

I mean yes you’re right about the bar numbers but it doesn’t change the fact nobody plays vengeance, this following quote literally is all the same on all platforms and servers

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

First, they said Vengeance IS coming ._.

Now, Vengeance IS here ._.

*Cracks knuckles* oh yea now thats what I'm talking about, thats REAL skill based PvP bro, sweatlords beware.

We're so back, this is gonna show all those Greyhost enjoyers for sure bro.

Lucasl402 · 3:24AM

Gabriel_H wrote: »

React wrote: »

Keyboard/PC UI - Queue started at 100, I took this screenshot 30+ minutes after queuing.

So there were about 360 in GH and 300 in Vengeance. Or how about a snapshot now?

So 300 in Vengeance and 160 in GH.

ZOS are not turning this ship around. They may alter Vengeance but even if they do the fundamental base of it will still be a system with less server calculations, less HoTs, less DoTs, less AoEs, less targets hit, less procs - because those things are what are causing the performance issues.

True enough. It's pretty hard to stop a sinking ship.

Today prime time vengeance can't field more than one bar population on opening day. Meanwhile GH is pop locked with a queue over 80.

amiiegee · 3:53AM

The thing is, everyone knew Vengeance would not be accepted or prefered by the people. Even ZOS knew it, they didn’t release the surveys results for a reason, im pretty sure.

Ofc there has been a noisy minority on the forums hardcore defending it but aside of that we could see it on every forced vengeance test, the interest was just not there and people were happy, when it was over.

It was just to late and they didn’t change the course anymore for what ever reason and that’s truely a shame.
The time and money wich was invested into that game mode wich will remain mostly empty now could of been spend better on the progress of the game, to fix performance in pvp - even if Greyhost doesn’t support 900 people cap, they could of aimed for 750 for example but with a better performance. So it would of been 250 per faction, but now instead we have a dead game mode and loads of this :