Leads in Trials.

Thoriorz · June 27

Hi, I'm a solo player and a new player in ESO and I like the game because it's looks like friendly for solo players from my point of view.
I like to do map exploration, quests etc stuff and I enjoy digging antiques a lot. I was looking at what they are in the new zone and where the leads to them are and was very unpleasantly surprised that one lead is locked behind the last boss in the Halls of Fabrication.

Why in trials? I don't mind farm delves, public dungeons and even normal dungeons where you can easily get through the dungeon finder but trials? You need 12 people, drop lead is based on luck and I as a solo player for example have no idea about trial tactics etc and that's why I play ESO because I thought it wouldn't force me to play raid end game and when I see this I'm disappointed that this kind of thing is locked in trials.

I play my own build and can handle beautiful openword content, even public dungeons I can play solo, some world bosses I can handle solo but I definitely don't have a build for trials.

I would like to ask, is there any statement somewhere why leads are in trial from the developer? Or is the goal more to encourage raid gameplay? This just forces me to either go RMT and buy a run through a given tiral or trade gold for crown and buy a boost from a guild in game for gold. Or I skip the given antique.

Does anyone know if there are more leads locked in trials or is this (Bthzarki Tonal Pipes) the first one?
Honestly I'm disappointed because I want to have digging antiques as the main activity in the game, but if there are a lot of leads locked in trials so...

I'm an older person and just raids are not my cup of coffee and my opinion that things like leads should be accessible to solo players.

Hapexamendios · June 27

In a normal trial, you don't have to have an ideal build. You can solo some world bosses so that tells me your dps is good enough. As far as mechanics goes, join a group through the finder, don't join a speed run as they'll expect you to know the mechanics. Some groups are very willing to help. Just put into chat that it's your first time and make sure to listen to the group chat as well.

aetherial_heavenn · June 27

Hapexamendios wrote: »

In a normal trial, you don't have to have an ideal build. You can solo some world bosses so that tells me your dps is good enough. As far as mechanics goes, join a group through the finder, don't join a speed run as they'll expect you to know the mechanics. Some groups are very willing to help. Just put into chat that it's your first time and make sure to listen to the group chat as well.

Exactly.

OP
Have you thought about joining a social guild? Many even small guilds, do gear runs in trials on normal once a week with no requirements except CP 160 for gear swaps. Most older trials on normal are no longer very difficult and 4 decent dps and a couple of good support can carry a bunch of newer players if, as quoted above, you listen to instructions. Just stand with the dps group, (don't run ahead, or lag behind the healers) and do what they do

You can do most older normal trials in crafted gear if you listen to the lead and try to hit the preferred target.

Thoriorz · June 27

So I'll try going through group finder and see how it goes.

sarahthes · June 27

Thoriorz wrote: »

So I'll try going through group finder and see how it goes.

If it is for the halls of fabrication lead, it has a 100% drop chance so you only need to do it once!

EF321 · June 27

Thoriorz wrote: »

drop lead is based on luck

This lead seems to be guaranteed first time.

Thoriorz · June 27

sarahthes wrote: »

Thoriorz wrote: »

So I'll try going through group finder and see how it goes.

If it is for the halls of fabrication lead, it has a 100% drop chance so you only need to do it once!

Yeah? Really? Well, at least I do, because I know that other leads one has to gring enough sometimes..
BTW, at IA weekly vendor, can all leads show up there or just some specific ones?

ShadowPaladin · June 27

Regarding your question why leads do drop in trials or from other different sources.

My guess for an answer to that question would be:

The reason for this is that the devs want to make leads available thorugh different means, so that players will be able to get leads from all kinds of different sources, as well as from all kinds of different activities and that just by/through playing the game as the want. Certainly, if you want to complete everything, you will have to do specific things. But, you will still be able to pickup leads along the way, while playing the game and that without actively searching for them.

Sync01 · June 27

Thoriorz wrote: »

BTW, at IA weekly vendor, can all leads show up there or just some specific ones?

I don't think there's a restriction on what type of lead can be available from the vendor, but it's only 2 leads per week (and we don't know which ones beforehand) so if you're looking for a specific one there's no telling how long it's going to take before it's available.

Thoriorz · June 27

ShadowPaladin wrote: »

Regarding your question why leads do drop in trials or from other different sources.

My guess for an answer to that question would be:

The reason for this is that the devs want to make leads available thorugh different means, so that players will be able to get leads from all kinds of different sources, as well as from all kinds of different activities and that just by/through playing the game as the want. Certainly, if you want to complete everything, you will have to do specific things. But, you will still be able to pickup leads along the way, while playing the game and that without actively searching for them.

Thanks for the answer. My opinion is that if a lead has a high chance to drop (as people wrote that the one I wrote about has 100%) then ok, but if a lead that has a crazy low chance to drop (and I've seen and farmed such) would be locked in a trial then I think it's not appropriate to be in content where 12 players are needed.
That's my opinion, if a lead in trial, then only with at least say 80% chance of getting it, but if the chances should be say 5% of getting the lead, then such leads don't belong in this content in my opinion...

AlnilamE · June 27

There's also a furnishing that drops from Dreadsail Reef and a part of the Dov-rha Sabatons that drops in Sunspire.

And the Altar of Celestial Convergence furnishing drops from all 3 Craglorn Trials, but those are super easy to pug.

ZOS_Hadeostry · June 27

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