How can ZoS be satisfied of the current PvP state?
Do they even try their game sometimes?

How can some people be "somewhat OK" with it? Are all the troll-build users on the forum to even be the 7 persons who voted "I somewaht ejoy"? :'D
(OK I guess I somewhat enjoy too, but let's be honest, the bgs are utterly trash atm. High Isle sets are refined cancer quintessence.)

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/623708/your-typical-bg-match#latest

OBJnoob wrote: »

I voted how I feel.

BUT. I am open to changes or reworks that will help other people enjoy bgs as much as I do.

Nothing wrong with that. I want to see what general consensus is. There's a lot of back and forth so I decided to try and consolidate opinions here

Personally, I enjoy BGs more when multiple modes are included, as now. More variation in modes and maps could be fun.

I would like CP enabled in the >50 BGs. What if the other option was not <50 non-CP, but premade builds that people could choose from and play regardless of their level (participation would increase Alliance skill lines and other rewards, but not ability/skill XP, not that they do much now), similar to how the mode is in GW2. I would not want to lose the option we have now, to use whatever gear and skills we want, and indeed, I want my CP as well. But I think such a mode would be helpful for less experienced players and also give an option to play without some of the ridiculous proc sets like Dark Convergence.

OBJnoob wrote: »

I like BGs not having CP it makes things a little faster paced IMO. And by that I mean people die faster.

Plus I mean there are already places to PvP with CP, and the only other no CP place is... In a weird state.

Now on the other hand your idea about choosing from a small list of builds sounds awesome to me, but I feel like a lot of people wouldn't like it, and I would not rather have that than what we have now.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem like adding new options is possible due to lack of players. Anything added will need to replace something.

True, I would not rather have premade builds as in GW2, but I feel that PvP is somehow too off-putting in this game, or more people would do it. I know I enjoy close matches, win or lose, but when I start encountering the same players over and over who seem to easily kill me no matter what I do, it is discouraging and I stop queuing. I wouldn’t take anything from good players, but I would like to have an option with somehow more enforced balance, that players could improve in and thus would bring more people into playing PvP. Otherwise, yes, splitting the player-base would probably not be viable.

I think a 2 team battleground-type-thing-with-another-name with your idea of "loadouts" would be great and very competitive. For those who want to fight for ranking and really compare player technical skills. It really should exist.

The only reason I wouldn't want it to replace Bgs is because, for everybody else (I'm in the middle and would probably play both,) character customization is a BIG attraction and you'd be losing a lot of MMO flavor to achieve that level of competition.

BUT. In the meantime, redoing the MMR system would be a good idea. Experience does not equal skill. The game should seek to group people by average win/loss, medal score, and K/D. Rather than whatever cumulative thing we have now that keeps putting you, for example, against players out of your league.

And of course nobody wants to wait half an hour for a BG so if enough people aren't on you will sometimes find yourself in the same dilemma. But it should be the exception, not the rule.

We need DM only que.