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Oakensoul BUFF or Refund
Ku_Tang
Soul Shriven
Ive spent 50 Euro to buy high isle addon which allows me to get the oakensoul ring and now it gets nerf to the point where there is no sense of using it, the builds using it were more squishy in pvp than builds not using it, but they allowed more damage than usual builds so it was kinda ballanced, the problem occured when people were using it on the dk which had 100% uptime on corrosive armor and molten whip that was broken, so the only thing that should get nerfed was dk and savage ww not the oakensoul, eventually you should only remove major heroism from the ring and it would be ok. Now i want zos to either bring back the old oakensoul or give everyone a refund. Zos should really start playing the game and read the definiton of ballance 100 times.
LGBTQ+ Enjoyer
Main class: Gankblade
Main guild: LGBTQ
Favourite weapon: Legendary Caluurion's Legacy Maul.
Main class: Gankblade
Main guild: LGBTQ
Favourite weapon: Legendary Caluurion's Legacy Maul.
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OBJnoob✭✭✭✭✭
✭Tried to look up the word ballance in the dictionary... No entry.
But seriously. A refund? Your decisions are your decisions my dude and, beyond even that, there's a bit of a pattern with chapters and new equipment. You'll catch on.3 -
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✭✭Probably the only thing in the patch that one could argue is balanced. No need for any further changes to it.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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markulrich1966✭✭✭✭✭
✭I wonder how everybody played this game for 8 years without this ring
Oh, they simply used PVP gear and were training combat...0 -
jcaceresw✭✭✭✭✭I used the U35 version for a whole week. I went back to double bar abilities because of lack of sustain. I tried multiple gear sets to make up for it but still not enough. Also modified all my CP stars and still reach to zero magicka in less than 5 seconds.
I used it to get my Perfect Maelstrom run but in several occasions I had to Hard weave and wait for the magicka regen to restore my magicka pool while avoiding the enemy's projectiles. Now I am trying to get the perfect run again with a double bar build.0 -
Blinx✭✭✭✭✭
✭I unearthed it,, tried it a few times but it felt very awkward to me, so I stopped using it.(prenerf as I only have High Isle on console, update 35 still a few days away yet)Edited by Blinx on September 1, 2022 12:00AM1 -
Toxic_Hemlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭joseayalac wrote: »The ring is still powerful.
You need to state the game mode you are talking about (edit: the op was talking about PvP)...
In PvP it is still powerful, according to others that do PvP like the OP (I don't)...
In PvE who cares?
I too would like the old version back in my PvE so I might actually try some solo vet content (areans).Edited by Toxic_Hemlock on September 1, 2022 12:06AM0 -
Ku_TangSoul ShrivenToxic_Hemlock wrote: »joseayalac wrote: »The ring is still powerful.
You need to state the game mode you are talking about...
In PvP it is still powerful, according to others that do PvP (I don't)...
In PvE who cares?
I too would like the old version back in my PvE so I might actually try some solo vet content (areans).
PVP, and well before nerf i had a morag tong - orders wrath - oakensoul snipe spammer build which was dealing huge damage and now apparently it does no damage at all, also it makes no point to limit yourself to 1 bar if you dont get the additional 400 + % buff damagesLGBTQ+ Enjoyer
Main class: Gankblade
Main guild: LGBTQ
Favourite weapon: Legendary Caluurion's Legacy Maul.0 -
carly✭✭✭✭joseayalac wrote: »The ring is still powerful.
Not really, not for doing dungeons for undaunted pledges which is what I was using it for. While I don't like the nerfs on it, I can understand why they did it with respect to the impact on PVP. The problem is they nerfed so many other skills outside of the ring, especially for sorcerers, so it's useless now compared to a double bar build.
Not much point logging in other than to do dailies .
Edited by carly on September 1, 2022 12:36AM1 -
Paralyse✭✭✭✭✭It's still incredibly strong in solo content and arenas. (Magsorc 1 bar build I run.)
I have no problem blowing through MA with it at all, and can still solo world bosses and normal 4 man base game dungeons without even needing to put on pale order. You might need to adjust your class's build and spec slightly to accommodate the changes.
It was no secret that Oakensoul (Brokensoul) was very overtuned for how easy it was to obtain. Players who expected that it would somehow not get nerfed at some point were living in la-la land or have no experience with "tall poppy syndrome" as applied to classes/builds/specs/items in MMO's.
Paralyse, Sanguine's Tester - Enjoying ESO since beta. Trial clears: vSS HM, Crag HM's, vRG Oax HM, vMoL DD, vKA HM, vCR+1, vAS IR, vDSR, vSE2 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Solo content overland; the ring helps me tremendously, even "nerfed". Because my connection is crap, my ping is huge, and my reflexes are old and also crap.
I do thank ZOS for Oakensoul.______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
PC NA, PC EU (non steam)- four accounts, many alts....0 -
carly✭✭✭✭See that's the thing, heavy attacking with 2 pets is boring for me. I've also seen some of the Hybrid builds with dual weapons and such but I liked my sorcerer the way she was. I only run with one pet and it's not that ugly little weasly AOE one, I like the other one - he peels mobs off me and heals me and that opened up an extra slot for something else. I'm more of a battle mage with a staff that like to wack mobs on the head
I get where everyone is coming with respect to adjusting my build but I feel like the classes are losing their individuality. Maybe it's me, I'm just too old. I don't' mind change but I really don't like that I could dual wield 2 weapons - if I wanted to do that I'd play a Nightblade. Do you see my point?0 -
Paralyse✭✭✭✭✭I run no pet or 1 pet bar with Oakensoul on my magicka sorcerer - inferno staff, false gods and mothers sorrow with valkyn skoria helmet and shoulders.
Other skills are unstable wall of elements, crystal fragments, force pulse, and channeled acceleration (if healing is not an issue) or critical surge (if you need more self healing) -- you can also run no pets and slot in Bound Aegis (for more resistance), Hurricane (more AoE damage), Mages Wrath (Execute), etc.
You can also use the healing ability of the Twilight Tormentor as your pet if you slot it.
Paralyse, Sanguine's Tester - Enjoying ESO since beta. Trial clears: vSS HM, Crag HM's, vRG Oax HM, vMoL DD, vKA HM, vCR+1, vAS IR, vDSR, vSE0 -
markulrich1966✭✭✭✭✭
✭people who complain ignore, that this ring is extremely overpowered.
Even monstersets don't give you the damage of just one of the major buffs. Slimecraw gives +5% damage, Oakensoul gives major brutality/sorcery, +20% spell/weapon damage. Plus all the other buffs. It is as if you wear 8 monstersets at once.
I think it was a big mistake to introduce this ring.
I think they only did it on order to avoid to have to fix some content that forces people to use this ring, especially those with some handicaps. Like 1-shot mechanics in vet dungeons (non-hardmode), or worldbosses that do not scale with the amount of players around them.
If they would fix such issues, nobody would need Oakensoul, and they could avoid shitstorms like now, where they had to re-adjust it as they realized it was a free godmode item.Edited by markulrich1966 on September 1, 2022 12:53AM0 -
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