Should passives that add DoT duration be overhauled?

RaptorRodeoGod · August 2022

Since DoTs now last an incredibly long time, the only thing these passives do is throw off the timer alignment of skills. Should these passives be changed to add more flavor/be more useful to classes?

MashmalloMan · August 2022

Yes

Yes, always hated them. The only 1 that made sense was DK's because it put their dots 4 seconds above the 10s standard, but now.. that extra 4 seconds only means a bigger headache.

Point of the patch was reducing buff managment and time we spend looking at our bars. Imagine being a newish player on patch day 1 after trying to learn your class for the previous 3 months and trying to line up 24s DK dots with 18s Eruption with 10s Unstable Wall or 15s Blockade, maybe they throw in Fire Rune from Mages Guild which now does 26s or 28s?

It's all over the place. A complete mess.

Mr_Stach · August 2022

Yes

Yes but also Let's not destroy DoTs let's just walk back a bit and look at this entire patch and just not do it. There's a few Idea we can write down for later, but I really just want to call a Mulligan.

MashmalloMan · August 2022

Yes

Mr_Stach wrote: »

Yes but also Let's not destroy DoTs let's just walk back a bit and look at this entire patch and just not do it. There's a few Idea we can write down for later, but I really just want to call a Mulligan.

It's too late. The ink is drying at this point. We can only look ahead.

If they really wanted to revert, they would of done it week 3 or this week. Week 5 is final.

xylena_lazarow · August 2022

Yes

Add somewhere mechanics that increase DoT dps against players, the PvP damage nerfs are unnecessary.

MashmalloMan · August 2022

Yes

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Add somewhere mechanics that increase DoT dps against players, the PvP damage nerfs are unnecessary.

Can't really do that either, classes without innate purges would be stuck on defense for 20s straight, casting Regen/Vigor plus burst heals constantly.

This is a mess that can't be fixed with a workaround like that.

xylena_lazarow · August 2022

Yes

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Can't really do that either, classes without innate purges would be stuck on defense for 20s straight, casting Regen/Vigor plus burst heals constantly. This is a mess that can't be fixed with a workaround like that.

Then shorten the duration while Battle Spirit is active? Not my job to figure out how, not saying to swing the pendulum wildly in the other direction either... just trying to communicate that ZOS needs to fix this... deleting entire skills, builds, class identities, and playstyles is simply not okay. Nobody in PvP asked for 20 second dots.

redspecter23 · August 2022

Yes

If they really want consistent dot timers, this would be a part of the process that needs to be fixed to assist with that goal.

francesinhalover · August 2022

Yes

i already asked for it on feedbacks, but i'm sure if it happens it's in 3 months from now.
What they could do is 1 sec duration = 2% extra dmg to the dots

MashmalloMan · August 2022

Yes

francesinhalover wrote: »

i already asked for it on feedbacks, but i'm sure if it happens it's in 3 months from now.
What they could do is 1 sec duration = 2% extra dmg to the dots

Yeah, something that simple or those passives could increase the first 10-5s of a dot to be 20% stronger, scaling downwards. Like a reverse Venomous Claw. That way they have more upfront preasure, but more value over a longer period of time. Mix it up a bit.

I think it's really odd that we don't have more "bursty" dots available. The only 1 that comes to mind is Burning Talons. Dots that have more pressure but last a shorter duration.

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Can't really do that either, classes without innate purges would be stuck on defense for 20s straight, casting Regen/Vigor plus burst heals constantly. This is a mess that can't be fixed with a workaround like that.

Then shorten the duration while Battle Spirit is active? Not my job to figure out how, not saying to swing the pendulum wildly in the other direction either... just trying to communicate that ZOS needs to fix this... deleting entire skills, builds, class identities, and playstyles is simply not okay. Nobody in PvP asked for 20 second dots.

I agree, I just think this whole thing needs to be reverted at this point. Thats a pretty good solution to reduce the time in half, but add more damage.

Stx · August 2022

No

I voted no, only because I don't think all dots should be/need to be the same duration.

I also disagree with overhauling passives that have existed for a very long time just because ZoS is pushing these horrible changes through. The obvious and much better solution is to revert the dot duration increases/DPS nerfs.

Dalsinthus · August 2022

Yes

Yes. I would rather these passives added damage or some effect to the dots, to reinforce these classes' identities as strong dot classes.

Rado98 · August 2022

Yes

I think that the durations should be changed to match once the skills and passives are fully ranked.

Make them all 20s (or multiples of). Yes it is less dynamic but it will make so much easier for lower tier players, actively reducing gap.

I would suggest making all the associated buffs run longer than the damage portion, like Degen on live. 20s seconds damage, 24s buff. Higher tier players will get the most damage by refreshing on time, lower tier player wont loose so much by not doing so, actively reducing the gap.

No need to add any more effects, as I see it those passives are there to add flavour to the leveling process not the skill themselves.

When the timers were shorter then the extended time was welcomed, now that they are so long the effects gets too diluted making some pointless to cast on anything other than a boss.

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