Me and pretty much all Warden players have been waiting for what will be 5 years to have our concerns addressed and they do these weird changes no asks for everytime instead. I am genuinely not surprised they didn't address anything about the Warden this week because they have shown time and again they straight up don't care about Wardens.

GetAgrippa wrote: »

They'll buff Arctic Blast right after they give us that Stalking Blastbones fix we were promised... What... 3 years ago?

Oh god this almost frustrates me more than the complete disregard to wardens because they straight up said THEY WERE GOING TO FIX IT and just didn't.

I think the Silence is the worst part, like I understand not having anything to share yet if stuff isn't ready, but not even addressing that something is coming down the pipe. It feels bad.

And from our Friends on Reddit:

Vaoh wrote: »

Honestly.... it’s been five years lol.

Unless ZOS adds a new skill line to each class or gives us 3rd morphs, we will need a new class if we ever are going to be viable when focused into Frost Damage. And when I say viable, I mean in the same truly focused way that we see DKs have tons of Flame Damage.

We always “preview” classes based on the NPCs we fight, so currently there’s two new classes that may exist at some point:
- Void Mage class based on NPCs in The Reach
- Ice/Water Mage class based on the tons of ice and water NPC attacks we see in Summerset/Ascending Tide/High Isle

Just my thoughts on this.

It's not going to take making a new class to get that to happen. We just need some legit changes.

Vaoh wrote: »

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Honestly.... it’s been five years lol.

Unless ZOS adds a new skill line to each class or gives us 3rd morphs, we will need a new class if we ever are going to be viable when focused into Frost Damage. And when I say viable, I mean in the same truly focused way that we see DKs have tons of Flame Damage.

We always “preview” classes based on the NPCs we fight, so currently there’s two new classes that may exist at some point:
- Void Mage class based on NPCs in The Reach
- Ice/Water Mage class based on the tons of ice and water NPC attacks we see in Summerset/Ascending Tide/High Isle

Just my thoughts on this.

It's not going to take making a new class to get that to happen. We just need some legit changes.

But only if ZOS was interested in legit changes.

After five years they’re still playing around with how many times Arctic Blast should stun, turning a morph of the bear into Bleed Damage, adding a Bleed DoT to Cutting Dive, turning Growing Swarm I to Bleed Damage, etc. If anything Warden is a Bleed class now, not a Frost class.

Well they did claim we are the "masters of ice" so it does seem to be their intention. But the lack of genuinely calculated action really hurts.

Mr_Stach wrote: »

Blood for the Blood God?



Actually my Stamden is like a Blood Savage-esqe build, so it's totally fine

warden is officially the bleed class now.

Mr_Stach wrote: »

Frozen Blood passive when Zos. Let me bleed em and freeze em.

this would be much better for identity imo. as long as they swap existing magic damage animal companions skills to frost and make arctic blast a legit pve skill.

I don't feel confident you will get what you want in terms of communication. 95 pages of feedback on the implementation of Account Wide Achievements and the bugs that came with it received a Q&A that didn't address our feedback or concerns, and was one sided as we couldn't comment in that thread because it was locked. There have been promises about better communication, but I think when it comes to ZOS doing what ZOS wants, despite overwhelming negative player feedback, they will just do what they want to do and not respond as a way to brush things over in the hopes players will forget in a few months. I guess it must work because they keep using this model, despite the great pain it causes players. We can cry for mercy all we want, but whether ZOS decides to be merciful is a bleak outcome given their track record. For your sakes I hope they don't give you all the AwA silence treatment we were given. I gave up on meta chasing, end game progression, and keeping up with class changes long ago because of being burnt out from constant yo yo sweeping changes, and went back to simple questing, housing, and role play or I'd probably have joined with you as Warden has always been my favorite class to play. Funny thing is AwA managed to nerf the way I quest and my role play too, so even that wasn't safe. I'll be one of the ones that keeps hoping someday there will be patch notes that stop taking things away from players and begin to positively improve QoL and game play without so many nerfs and cutting up and stripping away of, well, anything at this point.

Mr_Stach wrote: »

Yeah it really hurts when Feedback is not responded to, I mean isn't that the whole point of the Forums? We had Class Reps, that went defunct, there needs to be more involvement on Zos' side because the Community is bleeding out despite Zos having probably the best Content Cadence of any MMO on the market, it all falls back to players not feeling heard. Not even a fake "We Hear You" to quell the feedback.

I just want to hear a comment from zos even if it's just a couple of words.

Crazy thing is there are NPCs with Frost abilities in game right now that we could adjust. Ranged stun for Arctic Blast? It would need to be sped up, but it's there.

SEINTDARKNES wrote: »

Mr_Stach wrote: »

Crazy thing is there are NPCs with Frost abilities in game right now that we could adjust. Ranged stun for Arctic Blast? It would need to be sped up, but it's there.

Yeah is not like the need to make new animations or something.

I would be really happy if we had some sort of that skill just making it stun and when hitting an enemy puting an aoe for makin some dmg for pve.

They even have an updated frost tornado model they could use.

Unfortunately they might just feel there aren't enough Wardens talking about it on the forums to justify changes? We probably just seem the loud minority to them, and most people don't even log in to post their own sentiments. Even then, I really feel like a sentence acknowledging the concerns that have been raised would have been nice.

GetAgrippa wrote: »

They'll buff Arctic Blast right after they give us that Stalking Blastbones fix we were promised... What... 3 years ago?

Also this is just .. I don't know, upsetting, disheartening, kinda just sad? How the heck are they going to promise to fix something and then give absolutely no update, not even a heads up they weren't going to pursue a fix anymore. They should at least acknowledge what they said, dang it.

I mean I think without Data it's hard to tell. The Majority of Players are probably not on Forums or Reddit.

But judging from the top DPS charts, 18 of the Top 20 are mDKs. Magden doesn't make an appearance till like spot 132.

Mr_Stach wrote: »

Melzo wrote: »

Hahah if you want to change something, do not go to the forum. Do not write anything so that the forum is empty and delete the game. If there is an outflow of a player from the game, then their burning ass may tell you that you need to listen to the players))

Well that's a bit of a downward spiral there. I think stopping feedback is the worst thing you could do. For many companies, no news is good news.

Yeah i think it's important to give them feedback so at least they become aware we are not happy,with some luck we get some changes.