trackdemon5512 wrote: »

I understand that sentiment but for the last two weeks players in these forums have openly complained about fairly bringing back the other modes. They were met by the hardcore DM crowd constantly with “NO” and “JUST DROP ALL OBJECTIVE MODES”. The justification of such was the notion that DMs are overwhelmingly popular and that Objective matches aren’t PVP (to be clear as you and I are both aware any competition between players is technically PVP).

It’s hard to argue for a balance in a tug-of-war when one side refuses to stop pulling.

1) There's only one person calling to completely remove Objective Modes, stop pretending it's everyone. Very small minority either way
2) You're the one trying to argue that the Creative Director is not looking right at the data you have no access to LOL. How many times have you said "Rich Lambert is wrong" in the past 2 weeks?
3) You literally said you like to see people "duke it out" and go to empty flag/relic on another thread.

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

- I like that in Capture the Relic you can watch people duke it out while they’ve taken their mind off the objective and you can brilliantly get relics

Amazing PvP experience lmao

"Deathmatchers" are actually just pure PvPers. We play ESO to PvP. Most don't care about achievements, dyes, titles. We just want to test our mettle against fellow players through combat. We also recognize ESO 3 way Obj modes are bad PvP because of the very reason you like them, the fact that avoiding combat and going to am empty flag is the best strategy. Or that just building a mega block tank and sitting on a flag is a valid strategy. Or building a speedster for Chaosball with high regen and heals and just run around the map. We all know it, it's not some 200 IQ play like some objective players pretend it is. "Winning because of my ingenuity", gimme a break lmao. It's just BORING gameplay to the majority of people that want to PvP, which is why you don't have enough population to get your own queue, according to the Creative Director. Also why your leaderboard metrics were so low compared to the DM leaderboard back in the day we could queue for whatever mode we wanted. Imagine being able to break into the top 5 of Land Grab with 2 matches LMAO.

So, if you like objective modes so much, are you for or against turning all of Battlegrounds into Head-to-Head arenas so capturing objectives incentivizes combat and thus getting a population boost in the form of "DMers", people who like good PvP, like myself? Probably not, because then you'd have to fight for the objective lol. Just like all the "real PvP" objective games players like yourself like to bring up such as CS:GO, MOBAs, and yes even Chess. You gotta "fight" to get to and checkmate your opponents King piece. Your different pieces are your skills for combat.

TLDR: ESO Objective Modes are bad PvP. Surprised-Pikachu-Face when majority of PvPers don't want to play them and only want to play the best mode for PvP, Deathmatch (according to the majority since always).

propertyOfUndefined wrote: »

Jeez... It's impossible to post about this without being met with antagonistic responses.

"Down with Deathmatch"

I wonder why.